Discussion in 'Montreal Canadiens' started by montreal, Mar 2, 2018.
Byron+Pacioretty for Klefbom+1st, call now, and we will throw in Benn for free!
RoR is exactly what this team needs if it wants to keep the mediocrity they've established the last 25 years. A glorified 2nd liner who's good defensively and paid like a no1... he's a perfect habs no1 center in the Koivu, Gomez and Plekanec mold. We should stay far away from him as possible, unless somehow we get lucky enough to draft a McDavid, Matthews, Barzal or Eichel. You can afford a 7,5mil 2nd line center when your young no1 is making peanuts... why do you think Buffalo want to trade him ? Eichel will be making real money next season... and guess what happens when a team needs to get rid of their overpaid, overrated no2 center, they make a call to Mtl... they know we're dumb enough to take him AND pay a real premium for him.
Bingo bango bongo!! RoR is perfect for Bergevin because it'll help us sneak into the 7-8 seed and then in the playoffs it's all luck anyways.
Would love a UFA signed Tavares and would do Patches for ROR in a heartbeat but Sabres I dont see touching that.
I really like Chucky but I woyld do that Hanifin trade. Hanifin had the first half of a guy becoming a top pair D but cratered second half. So he is still 2nd pair.
To get a top pair D man you draft him or pay up huge, unless you get him before he becomes that. The Canes are desperate for post season and that was clear to me given what the owner was saying, but unfortunately for Francis he didnt make a move to accomplish that. I think tje Canes are a team that will be looking to mal2e a big deal and a player like Hanifin could be available when ordinarily he wouldnt. They might see Chucky as a C. Too bad Dumb and Dumber didnt play him at C to at least show case him.
And then we “can do some damage” and “anything can happen.”
No to O’Reilly unless he comes at a bargain price.
I’d rather trade Pacioretty to Florida for Bjugstad and a 1st. Bjustad could easily fill a second line center role and bring us decent production at a reasonable cost. Meanwhile we could look at adding a center via UFA, with the most popular option being Stastny.
To Florida Panthers: Max Pacioretty
To Montreal Canadiens: Nick Bjustad, 1st round pick 2018, 2nd round pick 2019
Acquire via UFA, Paul Stastny.
Draft: 2 first round picks, 4 second round picks, hopefully we win the draft lottery, and are able to take Dahlin with the first overall pick, and one of Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Joe Veleno or the guy I like Barrett Hayton with the first rounder they acquired from Florida.
2018-19 lineup looks like:
Drouin - Stastny - Gallagher
Lehkonen - Bjustad - Galchenyuk
Byron - Danault - Shaw (Andrew)
Deslauriers - De La Rose - Shaw (Logan)
Dahlin (hopefully)- Weber
Mete - Petry
Reilly - Juulsen
Florida ? Think Borgstrom.
I’m thinking realistically.
Florida won’t give up Borgstrom, and I’d take Bjugstad, a 1st for a potential top Center and a second in 2019 because I think they’d be willing to pay that price.
I mean A) we have less than 10% chance of winning the lottery so don't count on Dahlin and B) didn't FLA already say no to that trade?
Also - Benn and Schlemko and Alzner will all play ahead of Juulsen/Reilly. Which is moronic but it's the Habs.
We can all speculate and dream but realistically, based on Marc being unable to acquire a top 6 C in 6 seasons, our centers next year will be Drouin, Danault, Byron/DLR, Plekanec.
In 6 seasons Marc has come nowhere near acquiring a centre. Suddenly he is competent enough to get Stastny or Tavares (or in some posters minds BOTH of them). Marc will do as he does. He will resign Pleks on the very 1st day and say we need attitude players like that. And then he will fail to do anything of note.
Really like the idea to trade Patch for Bjugstad and the 1st...Bjugstad is the kind of 2nd center we need...Big, skill and good on Faceoffs!
Bjugstad was 5th in faceoffs taken and the 4th best faceoffs man with Florida.
Bjugstad is now a winger.
He played as winger because Florida have Barkov and Trocheck...
Take time to think about the stats i gave you and you can also look at his points total, ice time and who he plays with. Let me know if its someone you would want as your #2C?!
the answer is yes...I'd like him as our 2nd line center!
I personally hope it doesn't happens.
Dont forget we add Florida 1st round pick in the deal!!
I would rather take Borgstrom or even Heponiemi instead of Bjugstad.
I think it’s realistic to get Florida’s 1st, Bjugstad and something small. I actually like that deal for us.
Florida just missed the play offs and Borgstrom is not taking out Barkov or Trochek as their top 2Cs any time soon. Now if they think they have the luxury of Borgstrom as a 3C, well fine.
Florida wants play offs badly. Florida, Calgary and Carolina are 3 non play off teams who really want into the post season and there may be trades to be had.
Dadonov though can play RW and Patches slips in at LW. Real centres and PMDs so Patches should fill the net for them and help them go toe to toe with Tampa, Leafs and Pens. As a bonus, Patches is good defensively and I think Florida could use that.
Florida says no well then its no. But I think there is reason for them to be interested even at the cost of Borgstrom. MB needs to be talking to Tallon and be prepared to overpay. Add in Shaw, or a 2nd, fine by me.
Didn't Tallon say Borgstrom isn't getting traded?
I'd try and push Pac + Petry to the panthers, see if we could get Borgstrom and a 1st. Panthers fans won't like it but it's at least what I would want to see us try. Besides I don't think MB has figured out that he needs to rebuild yet so we'll likely get some crap moves to try and make the playoffs next year. Cause we are ****ed until we get a new GM/owner.
That is a lot to give for the 15th overall and Borgstrom. Florida better throw McCoshen and Malgin.
don't care if we overpay, as long as we get Borgstrom who was likely the best player in the NCAA this year and the 15th overall pick. He would be our top prospect going into the draft by a mile and depending who we get with our top 7 he might be our top prospect after that.
Maybe they would throw in Mascherin since he won't sign anyway.
Panthers seem like the perfect trade partner for patches .
.They need scoring winger , we need C
We have Patches , they have a ton of C's .
Problem is we want more than bjugstad and they wont trade Bjorgstrom .
Patches for Bjorgstrom kind of fixes both teams but it depends who needs to add .
Fla has Trocheck and Barkov then they have other C prospects as well that i forget . Maybe an extended patches plays into a trade on Jul 1st
Then go for Heponiemi, 1st and Mascherin.
I guess the gold medals he got for 2008 U17, 2008 Ivan Hlinka, 2015 & 2016 WC and the silver for the 2017 WC were all awarded to the teams with the best losing culture.