Trade idea....

[Magua]

I think id make that trade just to be rid of Hagg who is going to stand in the way of much better D prospects and get way more ice time than he should.

Addition by subtraction and all that

I'd rather they just trade Hagg for a 2nd or, fantasy time, with Simmonds for Dougie Hamilton than trade him for essentially nothing.

It's no use dreaming though. We're re-signing him for 4 years. Core piece.

 

[Rebels57]

I'd rather they just trade Hagg for a 2nd or, fantasy time, with Simmonds for Dougie Hamilton than trade him for essentially nothing.

It's no use dreaming though. We're re-signing him for 4 years. Core piece.

Oh yeah id rather get a 2nd or package him too.

Cant wait to see the numbers on his extension.

FML.

 

[Tripod]

I’m actually a Hagg support for the most part, but I don’t think you guys are giving Gauthier enough credit. He has been stuck in a numbers game in Toronto last two years behind some pretty good C depth. I’d put money on Gauthier being more valuable then Hagg in two years.

Gauthier could not best out 37 year old Dominic Moore.

Goat is a slow C with no upside.

I just went to look at who Leafs fans have for their lines next year, and most don't include Goat, but instead Aaltonen.

 

[Alex91]

Is the general perception that Hagg is worth a 2nd? I usually undervalue players when traded for picks so that seems high to me.

 

[Magua]

If Mirco Mueller, from the same class and unable to be a full-time NHLer, can get traded for a 2nd last year.......Hagg gets that at least. He hits all the Hockey Guy criteria. Hits. Get it. Hits.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Older depth players go for 3rds. A young guy like Hagg with team control easily returns a 2nd.

 

[Alex91]

Gauthier could not best out 37 year old Dominic Moore.

Goat is a slow C with no upside.

I just went to look at who Leafs fans have for their lines next year, and most don't include Goat, but instead Aaltonen.

That’s like saying that Morin couldn’t beat out Manning, Hagg, or Amac.

And I think Goat 4C upside prob equals Hagg upside.

Guys like Gauthier Kapanen and Johnnson spent a lot of time in AHL because of waivers and their crazy forward depth. The guys alone that could play C are Matthews, Kadri, Bozak, Nylander, Marleau, Komarov, Plekanecs.

And our bottom 6C depth is pretty slim. Gauthier and Aaltonen would prob be penciled in as our 4C from day one next year

 

[Alex91]

Does Hagg + 50 move us much up the draft board then?

 

[FLYguy3911]

A guy scoring at a .33 PPG clip in his 3rd year in the AHL is not what you bet on.

Vorobyev scored .5 PPG his first year in the league while dealing with all of the other circumstances. He’s already the better player.

 

[Tripod]

That’s like saying that Morin couldn’t beat out Manning, Hagg, or Amac.

And I think Goat 4C upside prob equals Hagg upside.

Guys like Gauthier Kapanen and Johnnson spent a lot of time in AHL because of waivers and their crazy forward depth. The guys alone that could play C are Matthews, Kadri, Bozak, Nylander, Marleau, Komarov, Plekanecs.

And our bottom 6C depth is pretty slim. Gauthier and Aaltonen would prob be penciled in as our 4C from day one next year

I disagree. Goat has been given chances to make the Leafs, and he has not been good enough.

And just because guys "could" be used at C, does not mean they are C.

Matthews, Kadri and Bozak are centres. All the others you listed are wingers that can/have filled in short term because no one else was good enough....like Goat. Pleks was added....guess why? To upgrade on Moore who is better than Goat.

It's like me saying our C depth is fine because we have Giroux, Couts, Patrick, Konecny, Laughton, etc...

Honestly....Hagg has 2nd Rd value around the league I expect. Goat might clear waivers.

 

[Tripod]

Don't take my word...go look at Leafs comments on him from March.

http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/freddy-the-goat-gauthier.2429861/page-12

Can't wait until the leafs package him off to somewhere this summer. He can join the rest of the failed 1st rounders from that era (Percy & Biggs).

I think he clears waivers next year.

no more goat threads plz/thx

I dont agree with Zeke on maybe 3 or 4 things but mostly I do.
This one I agree with him as well. Gauthier isnt very good guys.

too bad he is a 1st round bust
i was rooting for him but he is no good
sorry

At this point, there's really no reason to have any expectations on Gauthier. If he takes another step and can be a reliable #4C for us, that's as much as we can hope for. And it's a slim hope.


And there are many, many more of these.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Older depth players go for 3rds. A young guy like Hagg with team control easily returns a 2nd.

He got that sweet Brandon Carlo NHL bounce this year, too - there are GMs out there desperate enough for defensemen (and daft enough in general) to give us plenty back.

 

[Magua]

He got that sweet Brandon Carlo NHL bounce this year, too - there are GMs out there desperate enough for defensemen (and daft enough in general) to give us plenty back.

Our GM is one of those. Except he doesn't have to give up anything for Hagger.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Our GM is one of those. Except he doesn't have to give up anything for Hagger.

I know. He's never leaving.

 

[Magua]

I know. He's never leaving.

The bright side is we'll have ample joke material and JJ can leave his family.

 

[Prongo]

I honestly think if they are to make a big play for a player available, Hagg will be part of the package.

This would also help clear the path for Myers or Morin( when healthy) to stay in the lineup.

 

[Curufinwe]

That’s like saying that Morin couldn’t beat out Manning, Hagg, or Amac.

18 points in 57 AHL games as a 22 year old for Gauthier is not good. If Rubtsov is producing at that level in his 3rd AHL season that would be a huge disappointment.