Proposal: TOR-MTL (Weber)

[HoweHullOrr]

We need some solid blue liners, but Weber is not the answer for us with his contract. Wonder if there will be another purge of bad contracts like there was with previous CBA.

 

[shortfuze]

no thanks to weber. this new regime has a plan and part of that plan is avoiding big long term expensive deals. why would they go backwards and trade for weber who's on a worse contract than most guys in this league?

Zaitsevs contract?

 

[rent free]

Zaitsevs contract?

that was one contract and it looks ugly. don't need another anchor in weber

 

[Kraken Jokes]

Just out of curiosity sake, what would be your offer for Petry?

 

[ole ole]

LOL he won't be retiring and giving up that money. Horton, Savard have been on LTIR to finish out their deals and weber will be too. The NHLPA won't allow it.

The NHLPA can not stop any player from retiring.Think before you post something stupid.

 

[ole ole]

Not looking to go nuclear here by trading a bunch of core pieces but think that the Leafs might want to look at what is available to tweak the roster this summer. Wanting to throw this out there and see what needs to be done, if anything to alter it.

Leafs 1st (2018)
Brown/Kapanen - Habs choice
Martin (cap)
Bracco/Nielsen - Habs choice
Zaitsev (replacement RHD - equals out term)


for

Weber (no retention)
Shaw (1M retention)
Deslauriers

Rationale for the retention was Martin's contract ends sooner but it has been out there previously that Montreal was looking to maybe move on from his contract. I'm probably more into acquiring Weber then most Leaf fans so they might not necessarily be into the move but they can start their own thread

All that being said, yay/nay/tweak ?

A bunch of junk will not get you Weber.

 

[BLNY]

He does have 8 years left on his contract though and will be 33 in August. At some point decline hits, then what? Just thinking that if I were in that position and looking at where Montreal is, would it make more sense to acquire some assets now?

8 years, and not a concern for any club holdings his rights for the next 3 years. If he retires before the end of the deal, the recapture penalties still hit the Predators hard. If he retires before 35, which is highly unlikely, there would be a small penalty on the current team.

 

[BLNY]

In 2 years, if Weber declines, you'll want to get out of that contract, do you think Weber returns even a 1st at that point?

Yet another that doesn't understand the recapture penalties on that contract. If he retires before 35, Montreal incurs a modest penalty for each year before that age and the rest goes to Nashville.. The serious penalties will always reside with the Preds. If he retires between 36 and 41 - regardless of who he's playing for - those penalties go back to Nashville

 

[justafan22]

Yet another that doesn't understand the recapture penalties on that contract. If he retires before 35, Montreal incurs a modest penalty for each year before that age and the rest goes to Nashville.. The serious penalties will always reside with the Preds. If he retires between 36 and 41 - regardless of who he's playing for - those penalties go back to Nashville

Unless weber retires before sepetember 2020, those penalties will either go away in the next CBA or he'll be LTIR'd and traded to a cap floor team.

 

[mariolemieux66]

Habs fans we shouldn't be too greedy here. For me this should do it. Toronto doesn't touch any of its core players and keep Timothy Liljegren
Matt Martin(cap dump)
Eemeli Rasanen
Carl Grundstrom
Andrew Nielsen or Adam Brooks
Pick

 

[Skin Tape Session]

replace brown/kapanen with nylander/marner and you have the value but still dont see habs doing it, because whats the point of being loaded up front with D that totally sucks? you end up getting swept first round by Boston, although maybe with Price its possible to advance a little farther.

You don't see the habs doing it ? LMAO Bergevin hangs up laughing and drives Weber to the airport laughing his ass off. The leafs are NOT moving Marner/Nylander for any 33 year old with 8 years left on his deal, I dont care how good he WAS. Thats a funny post. Give your head a shake

 

[Stephen]

Under no circumstances do I see Weber as the solution in Toronto with the length of contract, health and age factored in.

 

[firstemperor]

The problem is Hab fans want the moon for Weber and no team is going to be comfortable eating his type of term, hit at his advancing age.

 

[BLNY]

Unless weber retires before sepetember 2020, those penalties will either go away in the next CBA or he'll be LTIR'd and traded to a cap floor team.

Distinct possibilities.

 

[justafan22]

Distinct possibilities.

Regardless of a lockout there will be a new CBA discussion in 2 1/2 years from now.

 

[HuGo Sham]

Not looking to go nuclear here by trading a bunch of core pieces but think that the Leafs might want to look at what is available to tweak the roster this summer. Wanting to throw this out there and see what needs to be done, if anything to alter it.

Leafs 1st (2018)
Brown/Kapanen - Habs choice
Martin (cap)
Bracco/Nielsen - Habs choice
Zaitsev (replacement RHD - equals out term)


for

Weber (no retention)
Shaw (1M retention)
Deslauriers

Rationale for the retention was Martin's contract ends sooner but it has been out there previously that Montreal was looking to maybe move on from his contract. I'm probably more into acquiring Weber then most Leaf fans so they might not necessarily be into the move but they can start their own thread

All that being said, yay/nay/tweak ?

lol funny how you're basically asking for all the habs grit as you get manhandled by boston. coincidence? i don't think so. here's the thing, weber is EXACTLY what leafs need...huge grit on back end and big shot on PP to offer option to all the skill up front.

unfortunately those pieces you offered don't get it done. habs are in zero rush to trade him. the pieces will need to be better

 

[Dzonna]

Acquire Weber for Zaitzev and a prospect, then Seattle has their new captain + a 2nd in a couple years thanks to Leafs

 

[Raym11]

Love Weber as a player but that contract is about the furthest thing from Toronto's needs

 

[LastWordArmy]

Montreal is not giving up Weber for a platter of crap. You need to actually give up something of value.

 

[HuGo Sham]

He does have 8 years left on his contract though and will be 33 in August. At some point decline hits, then what? Just thinking that if I were in that position and looking at where Montreal is, would it make more sense to acquire some assets now?

32 and preds are on hook for cap recapture. weber is a chara type. is great positionally with big shot. that doesn't get lost at 32 or even 35

 

[BLNY]

Regardless of a lockout there will be a new CBA discussion in 2 1/2 years from now.

It's the fact that some people are stuck on the 8 years. The remaining term only means something to Nashville. Even if nothing were to change with the CBA, there's really nothing about the contract itself to be worried about.

 

[justafan22]

It's the fact that some people are stuck on the 8 years. The remaining term only means something to Nashville. Even if nothing were to change with the CBA, there's really nothing about the contract itself to be worried about.

the only worry is weber retires officially before the contract is done. I can't think of a player who has "retired" without being on LTIR before a contract is over if it's due to health or just in general.

 

[bluedevil58]

Nylander and 2nd for Webber.

 

[Steve Shutt]

Weber's salary is actually really decent. He's got 4 more years at 6M. In 2022-23 his salary reduces and he'll likely retire or make that his last season. The cap hit when he retires is what hurts and that will be on Nashville.

2018-19			$7,857,143		$6,000,000
2019-20			$7,857,143		$6,000,000
2020-21			$7,857,143		$6,000,000
2021-22			$7,857,143		$6,000,000
2022-23			$7,857,143		$3,000,000
2023-24			$7,857,143		$1,000,000
2024-25			$7,857,143		$1,000,000
2025-26			$7,857,143		$1,000,000

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[HuGo Sham]

He's had enough injuries issues that it'll be an LTIR situation if he is too hurt to continue in a few years. You don't get it that players don't walk away from a million guaranteed in salary with these backdiving deals. They "retire" but in a financial sense they're still active.

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