Proposal: Tor and Ana

[TMLeafs18]

Tor - Jake Gardiner, Josh Leivo, 2018 1st rd pick

Ana - Josh Manson, Derek Grant, 2018 3rd rd pick

Gardiner goes back to where it all started. Adds speed to the back end. Leivo gets a fresh start I’m higher than most on him and think he would do great with the ducks. The first helps the Ducks add some young talent to an aging roster.

Manson adds size and toughness to a Leafs d core that needs it badly. Grant can come in a compete for the fourth line center role which we have struggled to fill. He also is a big guy. Leafs move back in the draft.

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[rent free]

i'd love this trade as a leafs fan, but idk if the ducks would like it

 

[Morgs]

Leafs fans like it, Ducks fans hate it and say "Manson is going nowhere, especially for that".

Not the worst value though, but Jakey is a UFA in a year, and after Manson Anaheim has very little in the form of RD.

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

Id do Gardiner, Leivo, 2nd

Ducks can keep their 3rd

Rielly - Manson
Dermott - Zaitsev
Borgman - Hainsey

 

[LuckyDucky]

^ what he said

Edit: what Morgs said

 

[rent free]

Id do Gardiner, Leivo, 2nd

Ducks can keep their 3rd

Rielly - Manson
Dermott - Zaitsev
Borgman - Hainsey

they definitely wouldn't do that

 

[SHANNYPLAN]

they definitely wouldn't do that

id do the original then

 

[rent free]

id do the original then

yah i'd do that as well

 

[Opak]

Just doesn't make any sense for Anaheim. Thanks but no thanks.

 

[Mr Quacksworth]

Losing Josh Manson would hurt, you'd have to give something back that would hurt you, too. He just signed an extension and our RD depth isn't as strong as it used to be.
Gardiner is a UFA in one year, Leivo isn't that exciting and is in most TOR proposals, and a late first isn't compelling, even from you guys. (Rakell, Steel) Did this proposal even work on NHL 18?

 

[TMLeafs18]

Losing Josh Manson would hurt, you'd have to give something back that would hurt you, too. He just signed an extension and our RD depth isn't as strong as it used to be.
Gardiner is a UFA in one year, Leivo isn't that exciting and is in most TOR proposals, and a late first isn't compelling, even from you guys. (Rakell, Steel) Did this proposal even work on NHL 18?

Gardiner would have a lot of value around the league I would imagine. He had a solid season. Just because he is a UFA at years end doesn’t mean he doesn’t have value. 1st round picks always have good value as well even if they are late.

I can understand if Ducks fans say no Manson is a solid player but acting like there is not value on the table is a bit ridiculous.

 

[Mr Quacksworth]

So the point would then be to flip Gardiner for an asset? It's not that there isn't value in the deal, it's that there's not enough value, and the pieces coming back don't come close to helping the Ducks, like Manson does. Shocker, this deal, heavily, favors TOR. Hard pass.

 

[Mallard]

I'd say fair trade in a vacuum.

However, we can't have our top 4 consisting of Fowler, Montour, Gardiner and Lindholm. Too many offsensive Dmen we need Manson.

 

[duxfan1101]

Not a chance

 

[anezthes]

No, thanks. We need more Mansons, not less.

Zero interest in Gardiner.

Current LD depth: Fowler, Lindholm, Pettersson, Larsson and Mahura.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

No thanks we need I clone Manson not ship him

 

[Hockeyholic]

Ducks don't do it. Gardiner plays like a # 2 when he's on. Yet, between his boneheaded moves that's far and few between.

 

[BlueBaron]

Gardiner would have a lot of value around the league I would imagine. He had a solid season. Just because he is a UFA at years end doesn’t mean he doesn’t have value. 1st round picks always have good value as well even if they are late.

I can understand if Ducks fans say no Manson is a solid player but acting like there is not value on the table is a bit ridiculous.

Yeah people always forget trade deadline value. Surely Gardiner could get a first at the deadline if they did not extend him.

Still, I don't image anything sane would make them want to part with the player, too important to them.

 

[StreetHawk]

Tor - Jake Gardiner, Josh Leivo, 2018 1st rd pick

Ana - Josh Manson, Derek Grant, 2018 3rd rd pick

Gardiner goes back to where it all started. Adds speed to the back end. Leivo gets a fresh start I’m higher than most on him and think he would do great with the ducks. The first helps the Ducks add some young talent to an aging roster.

Manson adds size and toughness to a Leafs d core that needs it badly. Grant can come in a compete for the fourth line center role which we have struggled to fill. He also is a big guy. Leafs move back in the draft.

Anaheim easily passes. They have 2 Swedes in Larson and Pettersson who likely replace beauch and Bieksa next season.

Keeps their top 4 as lindholm and Fowler on the left with Manson and montour on the right.

 

[mulefarm]

Anaheim would have to add. Gardiner is way better.

 

[Paris in Flames]

As a Leafs fan I love this deal and would do it in a heartbeat.

Thus. It's clearly lopsided.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Gardiner is UFA after next season. Leivo is a 24 year old forward who hasn't established himself as a NHL regular yet. Those pieces are not of much interest. Also not interested in trading Manson. No deal not even close.

 

[DRW204]

Manson had a pretty underrated offensively 1/37 point were on the PP, don't know if that will be repeatable for him going forward. But regardless, his contract is pretty damn good value for ANH. They have some good offensive dman already I think they need another Manson if anything...Don't think Gardiner fit from a 'needs' perspective, and will likely cost more than Manson when he hits the UFA market

 

[AvatarAang]

This is why people make fun of leafs fans.

 

[go4hockey]

id do the original then

Ducks still wouldn’t do that. They will not move Manson period as he brings the physical game the rest of their defense lacks. No way in hell they would move home for a guy with 1 year left till UFA. Remove blue glasses.