Top twenty in goals, assists and points (1927 - 2022)

[Hockey Outsider]

I know that HOH has been using top twenty (or ten, or five, etc) stats less frequently over the past few years, largely because superior metrics (like "VsX") now exist. Still, I think there's some value in assembling this information in one place.

A few points to keep in mind:
- This only focuses on regular season offense. Playoff performance, defense, physical play, awards & nominations and historical importance are all key when ranking players. Don't use these numbers in isolation.
- This metric heavily rewards longevity (note that Delvecchio is a single point behind Gretzky in assists). Still, the data can easily be filtered for top tens, top fives, etc.
- Every player with at least five top 20 seasons is included in each table.
- I think I properly accounted for ties but it's sometimes tricky in Excel. Let me know if you see any errors.

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[Hockey Outsider]

Seasons in the top twenty in goal-scoring by player, 1927-2022

PLAYER

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11​

12​

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14​

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17​

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TOTAL

Gordie Howe

5​

5​

2​

2​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

22​

Alex Ovechkin

9​

2​

2​

1​

2​

1​

17​

Phil Esposito

6​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

14​

Maurice Richard

5​

3​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

14​

Frank Mahovlich

4​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

14​

Bobby Hull

7​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

13​

Bernie Geoffrion

2​

2​

2​

1​

1​

2​

2​

1​

13​

Jarome Iginla

2​

2​

1​

1​

3​

1​

1​

2​

13​

Nels Stewart

1​

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

2​

2​

1​

13​

Norm Ullman

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

13​

Brett Hull

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

2​

12​

Jean Beliveau

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

12​

Ted Lindsay

1​

2​

1​

1​

4​

1​

2​

12​

Luc Robitaille

2​

1​

2​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

12​

Wayne Gretzky

5​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

11​

Mario Lemieux

3​

3​

2​

1​

1​

1​

11​

Marcel Dionne

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

11​

John Bucyk

1​

1​

3​

2​

1​

2​

1​

11​

Henri Richard

1​

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

11​

Mike Bossy

2​

3​

2​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Sidney Crosby

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Jaromir Jagr

4​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Stan Mikita

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Aurel Joliat

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Alex Delvecchio

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Syl Apps Sr

1​

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Teemu Selanne

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Steven Stamkos

2​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Roy Conacher

1​

4​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Keith Tkachuk

1​

1​

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

9​

Busher Jackson

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Toe Blake

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

9​

Sweeney Schriner

1​

3​

1​

2​

1​

1​

9​

Mats Sundin

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Andy Bathgate

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Syd Howe

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Rod Gilbert

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

9​

Mike Gartner

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

2​

9​

Dave Keon

1​

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

9​

Darryl Sittler

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

9​

Bill Cook

2​

2​

1​

2​

1​

8​

Bryan Hextall

2​

1​

2​

1​

2​

8​

Doug Bentley

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Ilya Kovalchuk

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

8​

Marty Barry

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Camille Henry

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Max Bentley

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

8​

Lorne Carr

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

8​

Bill Mosienko

1​

1​

1​

2​

2​

1​

8​

Ted Kennedy

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Dean Prentice

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

8​

Bun Cook

1​

3​

1​

1​

2​

8​

Pat LaFontaine

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Jean Ratelle

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Don McKenney

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

2​

8​

Charlie Conacher

5​

2​

7​

Howie Morenz

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Jari Kurri

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Dickie Moore

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Gordie Drillon

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Rick Nash

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Steve Yzerman

2​

1​

3​

1​

7​

Rick Martin

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Kenny Wharram

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Michel Goulet

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Lanny McDonald

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Joe Sakic

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Dit Clapper

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Woody Dumart

1​

2​

1​

1​

2​

7​

Harry Watson

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

7​

Marian Hossa

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Max Pacioretty

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

7​

Yvan Cournoyer

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Jacques Lemaire

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

7​

Brendan Shanahan

1​

2​

1​

1​

2​

7​

Phil Kessel

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Johnny Gottselig

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

7​

Pavel Bure

3​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Auston Matthews

2​

1​

1​

2​

6​

Peter Bondra

2​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Guy Lafleur

1​

3​

1​

1​

6​

Gaye Stewart

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Cooney Weiland

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Herb Cain

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Evgeni Malkin

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Cecil Dillon

1​

1​

4​

6​

Jeff Carter

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Patrick Kane

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Dany Heatley

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

6​

Nikita Kucherov

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

6​

Milt Schmidt

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Garry Unger

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

John Tavares

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

John LeClair

2​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Joe Pavelski

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Zach Parise

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

6​

Sid Smith

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Eric Staal

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Clint Smith

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Dino Ciccarelli

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Brad Marchand

1​

2​

1​

2​

6​

Jean Pronovost

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Ziggy Palffy

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Bill Barber

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Bill Cowley

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

6​

Gilbert Perreault

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Eric Lindros

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Dale Hawerchuk

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Rick Middleton

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Grant Warwick

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Herbie Lewis

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Mark Recchi

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Peter Stastny

3​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Red Kelly

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

6​

Corey Perry

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Alexander Mogilny

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Steve Shutt

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Lynn Patrick

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Larry Aurie

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Vincent Lecavalier

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

David Pastrnak

1​

1​

1​

2​

5​

Tim Kerr

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Cam Neely

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Tony Amonte

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Markus Naslund

1​

1​

2​

1​

5​

Connor McDavid

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Theoren Fleury

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Elmer Lach

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Bobby Bauer

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Alexei Yashin

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Tod Sloan

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Paul Thompson

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Jeremy Roenick

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Butch Keeling

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Ken Hodge

3​

1​

1​

5​

Baldy Northcott

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Paul Kariya

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Hooley Smith

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Andy Hebenton

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Dave Andreychuk

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Joe Nieuwendyk

2​

2​

1​

5​

Bryan Trottier

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Thomas Vanek

2​

2​

1​

5​

Bill Goldsworthy

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Johnny Peirson

1​

1​

1​

2​

5​

Joe Mullen

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Dennis Hull

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Bobby Orr

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Jim Pappin

1​

1​

1​

2​

5​

Vic Stasiuk

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Bob Nevin

1​

1​

2​

1​

5​

Mike Modano

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Mark Messier

1​

3​

1​

5​

Dick Duff

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Pat Verbeek

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

George Armstrong

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Seasons in the top twenty in assists by player, 1927-2022

PLAYER

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3​

4​

5​

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8​

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10​

11​

12​

13​

14​

15​

16​

17​

18​

19​

20​

TOTAL

Gordie Howe

3​

1​

6​

6​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

23​

Wayne Gretzky

16​

1​

1​

1​

19​

Alex Delvecchio

2​

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

3​

1​

2​

1​

1​

18​

John Bucyk

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

3​

1​

1​

2​

17​

Norm Ullman

1​

1​

1​

3​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

17​

Ron Francis

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

2​

3​

1​

1​

1​

15​

Joe Thornton

3​

4​

1​

2​

1​

1​

2​

14​

Stan Mikita

3​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

14​

Jean Beliveau

2​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

14​

Raymond Bourque

1​

1​

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

14​

Joe Sakic

2​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

2​

14​

Adam Oates

3​

2​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

13​

Jaromir Jagr

3​

3​

1​

2​

1​

2​

1​

13​

Paul Coffey

3​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

13​

Marcel Dionne

2​

3​

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

13​

Steve Yzerman

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

3​

1​

13​

Andy Bathgate

2​

4​

1​

2​

1​

2​

12​

Sidney Crosby

1​

3​

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

12​

Red Kelly

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

12​

Bobby Hull

2​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

12​

Mario Lemieux

3​

3​

1​

2​

1​

1​

11​

Bert Olmstead

2​

1​

1​

2​

2​

2​

1​

11​

Henri Richard

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

11​

Mark Messier

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

11​

Jean Ratelle

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

11​

Frank Boucher

3​

4​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Phil Esposito

3​

4​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Bill Cowley

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Bobby Clarke

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Bryan Trottier

2​

1​

4​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Nicklas Backstrom

1​

1​

4​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Ryan Getzlaf

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Patrick Kane

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Dale Hawerchuk

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Bernie Federko

1​

1​

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Maurice Richard

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Elmer Lach

3​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

9​

Henrik Sedin

3​

2​

1​

2​

1​

9​

Doug Bentley

2​

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

9​

Claude Giroux

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

9​

Ted Kennedy

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

9​

Doug Gilmour

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

9​

Doug Harvey

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

2​

1​

9​

Rod Gilbert

1​

3​

1​

2​

1​

1​

9​

Pierre Pilote

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

9​

Gilbert Perreault

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

9​

Toe Blake

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

2​

9​

Frank Mahovlich

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

2​

1​

9​

Bobby Orr

5​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Martin St. Louis

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Ted Lindsay

2​

3​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Peter Forsberg

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Phil Watson

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Milt Schmidt

1​

1​

2​

1​

2​

1​

8​

Mark Recchi

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Peter Stastny

1​

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

8​

Phil Goyette

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Eddie Shore

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

8​

Hooley Smith

1​

2​

2​

2​

1​

8​

Sid Abel

2​

4​

1​

1​

8​

Al MacInnis

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Doug Weight

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

8​

Syd Howe

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Denis Potvin

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Bernie Geoffrion

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Anze Kopitar

1​

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

8​

Dave Keon

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

8​

Syl Apps Sr

2​

2​

1​

2​

7​

Howie Morenz

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Evgeni Malkin

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Denis Savard

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Bun Cook

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

7​

Darryl Sittler

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

7​

Brian Leetch

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

7​

Busher Jackson

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Nicklas Lidstrom

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Gus Bodnar

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Paul Thompson

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

7​

Pierre Turgeon

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

7​

Nels Stewart

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Jari Kurri

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

7​

Joe Primeau

3​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Connor McDavid

2​

3​

1​

6​

Guy Lafleur

1​

2​

2​

1​

6​

Dickie Moore

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Erik Karlsson

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Bobby Rousseau

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

6​

Clint Smith

1​

3​

1​

1​

6​

Don McKenney

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Max Bentley

3​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Paul Ronty

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Buddy O'Connor

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Marty Barry

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Artemi Panarin

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Bill Hay

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

6​

Pavel Datsyuk

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Bill Mosienko

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

6​

Neil Colville

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Bill Gadsby

2​

1​

2​

1​

6​

Paul Kariya

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Henrik Zetterberg

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Mike Bossy

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

6​

Craig Janney

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Mike Ribeiro

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Phil Housley

1​

2​

1​

2​

6​

Babe Pratt

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Daniel Alfredsson

1​

1​

3​

1​

6​

Dean Prentice

1​

1​

2​

2​

6​

Art Chapman

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Billy Taylor

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Blake Wheeler

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Scott Gomez

1​

1​

1​

2​

5​

Paul Haynes

1​

1​

2​

1​

5​

Jason Spezza

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Roy Conacher

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Don Raleigh

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Daniel Sedin

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Cooney Weiland

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Red Sullivan

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Borje Salming

1​

1​

2​

1​

5​

Ebbie Goodfellow

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Brad Richards

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Bill Thoms

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Syl Apps

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Teemu Selanne

1​

1​

2​

1​

5​

King Clancy

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Neal Broten

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Pat Stapleton

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Theoren Fleury

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Lynn Patrick

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Jimmy Thomson

1​

1​

2​

1​

5​

Eddie Wiseman

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Claude Provost

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Ed Litzenberger

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Brad Park

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

David Krejci

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Kenny Wharram

1​

1​

1​

2​

5​

Cal Gardner

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Phil Kessel

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Jeremy Roenick

1​

2​

2​

5​

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Seasons in the top twenty in points by player, 1927-2022

PLAYER

1​

2​

3​

4​

5​

6​

7​

8​

9​

10​

11​

12​

13​

14​

15​

16​

17​

18​

19​

20​

TOTAL

Gordie Howe

6​

1​

5​

3​

5​

1​

1​

1​

23​

Wayne Gretzky

11​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

18​

John Bucyk

1​

2​

1​

2​

2​

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

17​

Alex Delvecchio

1​

1​

1​

2​

3​

1​

2​

2​

2​

1​

1​

17​

Marcel Dionne

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

16​

Alex Ovechkin

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

15​

Norm Ullman

1​

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

15​

Stan Mikita

4​

1​

3​

1​

1​

3​

1​

14​

Bobby Hull

3​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

14​

Maurice Richard

5​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

14​

Joe Sakic

2​

1​

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

14​

Phil Esposito

5​

3​

1​

1​

1​

2​

13​

Jaromir Jagr

5​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

13​

Jean Beliveau

1​

2​

4​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

13​

Nels Stewart

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

2​

1​

13​

Frank Mahovlich

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

2​

3​

1​

13​

Sidney Crosby

2​

2​

4​

1​

1​

2​

12​

Andy Bathgate

1​

1​

3​

3​

1​

1​

2​

12​

Henri Richard

1​

1​

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

12​

Ron Francis

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

2​

12​

Mario Lemieux

6​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

11​

Ted Lindsay

1​

4​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

11​

Steve Yzerman

2​

1​

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

11​

Jean Ratelle

1​

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

11​

Ted Kennedy

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

11​

Evgeni Malkin

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Bernie Geoffrion

2​

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Joe Thornton

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Patrick Kane

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Bryan Trottier

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Toe Blake

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Teemu Selanne

2​

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Frank Boucher

1​

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Mark Messier

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

10​

Adam Oates

3​

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Dale Hawerchuk

1​

1​

1​

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

10​

Rod Gilbert

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

10​

Luc Robitaille

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

10​

Martin St. Louis

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Elmer Lach

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

9​

Roy Conacher

1​

1​

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Syl Apps Sr

3​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

9​

Steven Stamkos

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Syd Howe

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Marty Barry

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Mike Bossy

1​

3​

2​

2​

1​

9​

Gilbert Perreault

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

3​

9​

Red Kelly

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Bun Cook

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

9​

Howie Morenz

2​

3​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Bill Cook

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Bill Cowley

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Sid Abel

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

8​

Jari Kurri

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Claude Giroux

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

2​

8​

Paul Coffey

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

2​

8​

Brett Hull

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Mark Recchi

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

8​

Darryl Sittler

1​

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Nicklas Backstrom

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Bert Olmstead

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Mats Sundin

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Bill Mosienko

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Pierre Turgeon

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Bernie Federko

1​

3​

1​

1​

1​

1​

8​

Johnny Gottselig

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

2​

8​

Sweeney Schriner

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Max Bentley

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Charlie Conacher

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

7​

Dickie Moore

2​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Doug Bentley

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Peter Forsberg

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Gordie Drillon

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Busher Jackson

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Bobby Clarke

2​

1​

1​

2​

1​

7​

Peter Stastny

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

7​

Paul Thompson

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

7​

Aurel Joliat

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Ryan Getzlaf

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Denis Savard

2​

1​

2​

1​

1​

7​

Artemi Panarin

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Cecil Dillon

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Bernie Nicholls

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

7​

Sid Smith

1​

1​

1​

2​

2​

7​

Don McKenney

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Mike Modano

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Dave Keon

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

7​

Connor McDavid

4​

2​

6​

Guy Lafleur

3​

2​

1​

6​

Bobby Orr

2​

3​

1​

6​

Bryan Hextall

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

6​

Jarome Iginla

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Milt Schmidt

1​

2​

2​

1​

6​

Henrik Sedin

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Eric Lindros

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Ilya Kovalchuk

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Bobby Rousseau

1​

1​

1​

1​

2​

6​

John Tavares

1​

1​

3​

1​

6​

Paul Kariya

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Lorne Carr

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Michel Goulet

1​

2​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Hooley Smith

2​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Doug Gilmour

1​

1​

1​

2​

1​

6​

John LeClair

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Daniel Alfredsson

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Phil Watson

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Jeremy Roenick

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Theoren Fleury

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Claude Provost

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

6​

Anze Kopitar

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Rick Middleton

2​

1​

2​

1​

6​

Dean Prentice

1​

1​

2​

1​

1​

6​

Camille Henry

1​

3​

1​

1​

6​

Leon Draisaitl

1​

1​

2​

1​

5​

Daniel Sedin

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Cooney Weiland

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Lynn Patrick

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Pavel Bure

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Gaye Stewart

1​

1​

2​

1​

5​

Bobby Bauer

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Pat LaFontaine

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Woody Dumart

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Ebbie Goodfellow

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Clint Smith

1​

1​

2​

1​

5​

Brad Marchand

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Billy Taylor

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Dit Clapper

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Dany Heatley

2​

1​

2​

5​

Pavel Datsyuk

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Phil Goyette

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Paul Ronty

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Nathan MacKinnon

2​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Marian Hossa

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Tod Sloan

1​

2​

2​

5​

Phil Kessel

2​

2​

1​

5​

Yvan Cournoyer

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Blake Wheeler

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Herbie Lewis

1​

1​

1​

2​

5​

Johnny Peirson

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Lanny McDonald

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

Bill Hay

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

Keith Tkachuk

1​

2​

1​

1​

5​

George Gee

1​

1​

3​

5​

George Armstrong

1​

2​

2​

5​

Grant Warwick

1​

1​

1​

1​

1​

5​

 

[Hockey Outsider]

"Junk" statistic - goal scoring (updated 2022)

Gordie Howe	76​
Alex Ovechkin	58​
Maurice Richard	53​
Bobby Hull	51​
Nels Stewart	45​
Phil Esposito	45​
Jean Beliveau	40​
Ted Lindsay	39​
Frank Mahovlich	39​
Bernie Geoffrion	39​
Wayne Gretzky	38​
Norm Ullman	37​
Mike Bossy	36​
Mario Lemieux	36​
Marcel Dionne	36​
Luc Robitaille	34​
Jaromir Jagr	34​
Brett Hull	34​
Stan Mikita	32​
Roy Conacher	32​
Bill Cook	29​
Syl Apps Sr	28​
Steven Stamkos	28​
Ilya Kovalchuk	28​
Andy Bathgate	28​
John Bucyk	27​
Jarome Iginla	27​
Toe Blake	26​
Teemu Selanne	26​
Max Bentley	26​
Busher Jackson	26​
Syd Howe	25​
Sweeney Schriner	25​
Marty Barry	25​
Gordie Drillon	25​
Howie Morenz	25​
Bryan Hextall	25​
Camille Henry	25​
Sidney Crosby	23​
Steve Yzerman	23​
Michel Goulet	23​
Guy Lafleur	23​
Aurel Joliat	23​
Alex Delvecchio	23​
Pavel Bure	22​
Peter Bondra	22​
Mike Gartner	22​
John LeClair	22​
Keith Tkachuk	22​
Charlie Conacher	22​
Yvan Cournoyer	21​
Rick Nash	21​
Rod Gilbert	21​
Lorne Carr	21​
Jari Kurri	21​
Henri Richard	21​
Sid Smith	20​
Rick Martin	20​
Joe Sakic	20​
Dickie Moore	20​
Dany Heatley	20​
Brendan Shanahan	20​
Bill Mosienko	20​
Cecil Dillon	20​
Mats Sundin	19​
Lanny McDonald	19​
Marian Hossa	19​
Doug Bentley	19​
Bun Cook	19​
Woody Dumart	18​
Tim Kerr	18​
Ted Kennedy	18​
Pat LaFontaine	18​
Patrick Kane	18​
John Tavares	18​
Jean Ratelle	18​
Darryl Sittler	18​
Don McKenney	18​
Dit Clapper	18​
Bill Cowley	18​
Max Pacioretty	17​
Joe Nieuwendyk	17​
Joe Pavelski	17​
Herb Cain	17​
Gaye Stewart	17​
Corey Perry	17​
Dean Prentice	17​
Evgeni Malkin	17​
Dave Keon	17​
Steve Shutt	16​
Ziggy Palffy	16​
Markus Naslund	16​
Kenny Wharram	16​
Jean Pronovost	16​
Eric Staal	16​
Tod Sloan	15​
Milt Schmidt	15​
Phil Kessel	15​
Johnny Gottselig	15​
Gilbert Perreault	15​
Jeff Carter	15​
Ed Litzenberger	15​
Eric Lindros	15​
Dino Ciccarelli	15​
Cam Neely	15​
Thomas Vanek	14​
Tyler Seguin	14​
Rick Middleton	14​
Paul Thompson	14​
Nikita Kucherov	14​
Paul Kariya	14​
Ken Hodge	14​
Mark Messier	14​
Garry Unger	14​
Joe Mullen	14​
Harry Watson	14​
Hooley Smith	14​
Dale Hawerchuk	14​
Cooney Weiland	14​
Clint Smith	14​
Bryan Trottier	14​
Auston Matthews	14​
Andy Hebenton	14​
Bobby Bauer	14​
Bill Barber	14​
Tony Amonte	13​
Sid Abel	13​
Vic Stasiuk	13​
Wally Hergesheimer	13​
Theoren Fleury	13​
Zach Parise	13​
Milan Hejduk	13​
Red Hamill	13​
Marian Gaborik	13​
Jeremy Roenick	13​
Jacques Lemaire	13​
Elmer Lach	13​
Connor McDavid	13​
Baldy Northcott	13​
Alexander Mogilny	13​
Brad Marchand	13​
Vladimir Tarasenko	12​
Rick Vaive	12​
Johnny Peirson	12​
Lynn Patrick	12​
Larry Aurie	12​
Leon Draisaitl	12​
Glenn Anderson	12​
Jamie Benn	12​
Danny Gare	12​
Dennis Hull	12​
Alexei Yashin	12​
Bobby Orr	12​
Vincent Lecavalier	11​
Reggie Leach	11​
Patrick Marleau	11​
Pit Lepine	11​
Owen Nolan	11​
Rick MacLeish	11​
Mickey Redmond	11​
Grant Warwick	11​
Glen Murray	11​
Dave Andreychuk	11​
Daniel Alfredsson	11​
David Pastrnak	11​
Bill Guerin	11​
Blaine Stoughton	11​
Ace Bailey	11​
Bill Goldsworthy	11​
Mike Modano	10​
Pierre Larouche	10​
Neil Colville	10​
Peter Stastny	10​
Martin St. Louis	10​
Mark Recchi	10​
Kevin Stevens	10​
Herbie Lewis	10​
Harry Oliver	10​
Frank Finnigan	10​
Danny Grant	10​
Dick Duff	10​
Alex Kovalev	10​
Bob Nevin	10​
Bobby Rousseau	10​
Alex Shibicky	10​
Bernie Nicholls	10​
Charlie Simmer	10​

This "junk" statistic works by awarding 4 points for a top five finish, 3 points for a top ten finish, 2 points for a top fifteen finish, and 1 point for a top twenty finish. For example, Larmer finished 10th in goals in 1985 (3 points), 11th in 1991 (2 points), 16th in 1989 (1 point) and 17th in 1983 (1 point). His "score" is 7 points. As I've tried to emphasize by calling it "junk", this metric has no inherent meaning, but I thought it might be interesting. Attribution - I believe @seventieslord invented this.

Despite 2017 being a disappointing season, Ovechkin is now tied for 5th place all-time. He's one decent season away from surpassing Esposito amongst all post-expansion players.

With his improbable goal-scoring crown this year, Crosby becomes one of two players in history to lead the league in goals twice, and never again placing in the top five. Doug Bentley was the other.

I was surprised to see Bathgate rank so high. I always viewed him as much more of a playmaker than a goal-scorer. On the other hand, Sakic ranked quite a bit lower than I expected.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

"Junk" statistic - assists (updated 2022)

Gordie Howe	85​
Wayne Gretzky	74​
Joe Thornton	48​
Adam Oates	48​
Alex Delvecchio	47​
Ron Francis	46​
Stan Mikita	45​
Jean Beliveau	45​
Norm Ullman	42​
Andy Bathgate	42​
Paul Coffey	41​
Joe Sakic	41​
Jaromir Jagr	40​
Mario Lemieux	39​
Marcel Dionne	39​
Sidney Crosby	38​
Phil Esposito	37​
Frank Boucher	37​
John Bucyk	36​
Raymond Bourque	35​
Bryan Trottier	34​
Bill Cowley	34​
Bobby Clarke	33​
Nicklas Backstrom	32​
Henrik Sedin	32​
Elmer Lach	32​
Sid Abel	30​
Ryan Getzlaf	30​
Ted Lindsay	30​
Red Kelly	30​
Henri Richard	30​
Jean Ratelle	30​
Steve Yzerman	29​
Mark Messier	29​
Doug Bentley	29​
Bernie Federko	28​
Peter Forsberg	27​
Peter Stastny	27​
Bobby Orr	27​
Bobby Hull	27​
Toe Blake	26​
Claude Giroux	26​
Dale Hawerchuk	26​
Doug Gilmour	26​
Bert Olmstead	26​
Patrick Kane	25​
Martin St. Louis	25​
Gilbert Perreault	25​
Howie Morenz	25​
Doug Weight	25​
Phil Goyette	24​
Rod Gilbert	24​
Maurice Richard	24​
Guy Lafleur	24​
Ted Kennedy	23​
Milt Schmidt	23​
Phil Watson	23​
Doug Harvey	23​
Syd Howe	22​
Pierre Pilote	21​
Max Bentley	21​
Hooley Smith	21​
Denis Savard	21​
Syl Apps Sr	20​
Nicklas Lidstrom	20​
Paul Ronty	20​
Mark Recchi	20​
Connor McDavid	20​
Denis Potvin	20​
Brian Leetch	20​
Bernie Geoffrion	20​
Pavel Datsyuk	19​
Joe Primeau	19​
Evgeni Malkin	19​
Dickie Moore	19​
Gus Bodnar	18​
Frank Mahovlich	18​
Eddie Shore	18​
Al MacInnis	18​
Brad Richards	18​
Buddy O'Connor	18​
Bun Cook	18​
Bill Mosienko	18​
Paul Thompson	17​
Erik Karlsson	17​
Craig Janney	17​
Clint Smith	17​
Art Chapman	17​
Anze Kopitar	17​
Bobby Rousseau	17​
Teemu Selanne	16​
Paul Haynes	16​
Mike Ribeiro	16​
Mike Bossy	16​
Marty Barry	16​
Jari Kurri	16​
Henrik Zetterberg	16​
Darryl Sittler	16​
Blake Wheeler	16​
Billy Taylor	16​
Bill Gadsby	16​
Bill Hay	16​
Pierre Turgeon	15​
Marc Savard	15​
Busher Jackson	15​
Aurel Joliat	15​
Sweeney Schriner	14​
Neil Colville	14​
King Clancy	14​
Ace Bailey	14​
Bill Thoms	14​
Roy Conacher	13​
Syl Apps	13​
Nels Stewart	13​
Jason Allison	13​
Jason Spezza	13​
Fred Stanfield	13​
Dave Keon	13​
Daniel Sedin	13​
Doc Romnes	13​
Dean Prentice	13​
Cooney Weiland	13​
Tom Anderson	12​
Red Sullivan	12​
Phil Housley	12​
Paul Kariya	12​
Leon Draisaitl	12​
Larry Aurie	12​
Larry Robinson	12​
Eddie Wiseman	12​
Ebbie Goodfellow	12​
Don McKenney	12​
Daniel Alfredsson	12​
Artemi Panarin	12​
Brad Marchand	12​
Brad Park	12​
Borje Salming	12​
Vic Stasiuk	11​
Scott Gomez	11​
Theoren Fleury	11​
Neal Broten	11​
Normie Himes	11​
Nikita Kucherov	11​
Mitch Marner	11​
Nathan MacKinnon	11​
Lynn Patrick	11​
Kent Nilsson	11​
Dutch Reibel	11​
Don Raleigh	11​
Bill Cook	11​
Babe Pratt	11​
Sergei Zubov	10​
Pat Stapleton	10​
Jozef Stumpel	10​
Markus Naslund	10​
Lionel Conacher	10​
Lorne Carr	10​
Gordie Drillon	10​
George Hay	10​
Jimmy Ward	10​
Herbie Lewis	10​
Claude Provost	10​
Edgar Laprade	10​
Eric Lindros	10​
Ed Litzenberger	10​
David Krejci	10​
Bernie Nicholls	10​
Babe Siebert	10​
Alex Ovechkin	10​
Bobby Bauer	10​
Bobby Smith	10​

Keep in mind that this statistic doesn't fully capture outlier performances. Thus, Gretzky leading the league in scoring, solely on the strength of his assists, is treated the same as a 5th place finish. There's no question that he's the greatest playmaker of all time.

I wasn't surprised to see Oates and Thornton tied, but I didn't expect Delvecchio to be so close behind them.

After 2017, the perpetually underrated Backstrom moves into a tie for 25th place (tying Crosby). Getzlaf is just one "point" behind them.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

"Junk" statistic - points (updated 2022)

Gordie Howe	86​
Wayne Gretzky	67​
Maurice Richard	47​
Jean Beliveau	46​
Bobby Hull	46​
Stan Mikita	45​
Sidney Crosby	45​
Jaromir Jagr	44​
Marcel Dionne	43​
Alex Delvecchio	43​
Phil Esposito	42​
Mario Lemieux	41​
Joe Sakic	41​
Alex Ovechkin	40​
Andy Bathgate	39​
John Bucyk	38​
Norm Ullman	37​
Ted Lindsay	35​
Nels Stewart	35​
Frank Mahovlich	35​
Mike Bossy	32​
Frank Boucher	31​
Teemu Selanne	30​
Mark Messier	30​
Jean Ratelle	30​
Henri Richard	30​
Joe Thornton	30​
Bill Cowley	30​
Steve Yzerman	29​
Patrick Kane	29​
Bernie Geoffrion	29​
Ron Francis	28​
Elmer Lach	28​
Adam Oates	28​
Bill Cook	28​
Toe Blake	27​
Marty Barry	27​
Howie Morenz	27​
Bryan Trottier	27​
Syl Apps Sr	26​
Gilbert Perreault	26​
Ted Kennedy	25​
Paul Coffey	25​
Evgeni Malkin	25​
Roy Conacher	24​
Sid Abel	24​
Steven Stamkos	24​
Rod Gilbert	24​
Peter Stastny	24​
Martin St. Louis	24​
Guy Lafleur	24​
Jari Kurri	24​
Dale Hawerchuk	24​
Doug Bentley	24​
Bobby Orr	24​
Bobby Clarke	24​
Sweeney Schriner	23​
Peter Forsberg	23​
Luc Robitaille	23​
Max Bentley	23​
Busher Jackson	23​
Syd Howe	22​
Mark Recchi	22​
Charlie Conacher	22​
Bill Mosienko	22​
Nicklas Backstrom	21​
Red Kelly	21​
Claude Giroux	21​
Darryl Sittler	21​
Bert Olmstead	21​
Gordie Drillon	20​
Connor McDavid	20​
Denis Savard	20​
Milt Schmidt	19​
Paul Thompson	19​
Ilya Kovalchuk	19​
Dickie Moore	19​
Clint Smith	19​
Brett Hull	19​
Bernie Federko	19​
Aurel Joliat	19​
Paul Kariya	18​
Hooley Smith	18​
Bryan Hextall	18​
Bun Cook	18​
Ryan Getzlaf	17​
Pavel Bure	17​
Mats Sundin	17​
John LeClair	17​
Henrik Sedin	17​
Jarome Iginla	17​
Brad Marchand	17​
Sid Smith	16​
Pierre Turgeon	16​
Mike Modano	16​
Lorne Carr	16​
Michel Goulet	16​
Don McKenney	16​
Bernie Nicholls	16​
Nikita Kucherov	15​
Paul Ronty	15​
Lynn Patrick	15​
Leon Draisaitl	15​
Dave Keon	15​
Dany Heatley	15​
Bobby Rousseau	15​
Cecil Dillon	15​
Billy Taylor	15​
Tod Sloan	14​
Nathan MacKinnon	14​
Pavel Datsyuk	14​
Jeremy Roenick	14​
Eric Lindros	14​
Doug Gilmour	14​
Daniel Alfredsson	14​
Theoren Fleury	13​
Ziggy Palffy	13​
Phil Goyette	13​
Phil Watson	13​
Phil Kessel	13​
Rick Middleton	13​
Ken Hodge	13​
Marian Hossa	13​
Jacques Lemaire	13​
Ed Litzenberger	13​
Artemi Panarin	13​
Ace Bailey	13​
Bobby Bauer	13​
Neil Colville	12​
Markus Naslund	12​
Johnny Gottselig	12​
Lanny McDonald	12​
Larry Aurie	12​
Herbie Lewis	12​
Joe Primeau	12​
Jamie Benn	12​
Cooney Weiland	12​
Claude Provost	12​
Daniel Sedin	12​
Woody Dumart	11​
Tyler Seguin	11​
Sergei Fedorov	11​
Pat LaFontaine	11​
Patrik Elias	11​
Pavol Demitra	11​
Johnny Peirson	11​
John Tavares	11​
Kenny Wharram	11​
Gaye Stewart	11​
Jason Spezza	11​
Dit Clapper	11​
Dave Taylor	11​
Brad Richards	11​
Camille Henry	11​
Buddy O'Connor	11​
Blake Wheeler	11​
Bill Thoms	11​
Anze Kopitar	11​
Yvan Cournoyer	10​
Rick MacLeish	10​
Kent Nilsson	10​
Marc Savard	10​
George Hay	10​
Jason Allison	10​
Gus Bodnar	10​
Erik Karlsson	10​
Eric Staal	10​
Dutch Reibel	10​
Denis Potvin	10​
Alexander Mogilny	10​
Bill Hay	10​
Brendan Shanahan	10​

Ovechkin barely snuck into the top twenty in scoring in 2017. He gets one extra point and moves into a tie for 19th place. Crosby, with a second-place finish, leaps ahead of him into a tie for 16th place.

How about Gordie Howe? No player in history played at a high level for such a long period of time. To quote myself from another thread, he almost makes Ray Bourque seem like a flash in the pan.

 

[tony d]

Awesome work hockey outsider, thanks for sharing.

 

[Beau Knows]

Always look forward to seeing Hockey Outsiders updated stats at the end of the season. Will be interesting to see how long it takes for McDavid to work his way up some of these charts.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

This thread has been updated after the data migration on HFBoards. In my browser, some of the tables are too wide and you need to scroll to be able to see the end - not sure if there's a way to fix that. Other than that, let me know if you see any errors/problems.

 

[VanIslander]

In terms of scoring points...

• Howe 20 times top-5 (well pimped fact) yet Gretzky... 15 times top-3
• Bucyk is 14 times top 15? Oh, but only once top-6.
• Stan Mikita 8 times top-3 (4 of them 1st) but Rocket Richard was never 1st and only 7 times top-3.
• Sittler and Goulet only once top-7

Interesting...

 

[GlitchMarner]

Sundin is quite high on the list of most top 20 goals finishes...

 

[Hockey Outsider]

I was going to update this thread for 2018 but I think the way I presented the data last year was pretty cluttered, and probably not overly meaningful (ie comparing top twenty finishes from 2017 to 1927). Does anyone have any suggestions on a better way to present and/or organize the data?

 

[bobholly39]

I was going to update this thread for 2018 but I think the way I presented the data last year was pretty cluttered, and probably not overly meaningful (ie comparing top twenty finishes from 2017 to 1927). Does anyone have any suggestions on a better way to present and/or organize the data?

I don't like your awarding of points. 4 for top 5, 3 for 6-10, etc.

Why not do 20 points for first place finish.
19 points for 2nd place finish
....
1 point for 20th finish.

That would be more representative i think. As it is it just seems to reward longevity more than anything, doesn't really reward eliteness as much.

 

[billcook]

I don't like your awarding of points. 4 for top 5, 3 for 6-10, etc.

Why not do 20 points for first place finish.
19 points for 2nd place finish
....
1 point for 20th finish.

That would be more representative i think. As it is it just seems to reward longevity more than anything, doesn't really reward eliteness as much.

So if player 20 times 20th it is the same as once 1st?

 

[bobholly39]

So if player 20 times 20th it is the same as once 1st?

Yes.

Under current calculations -

someone who won 5 art rosses and has 15 seasons finishing 21st or more in points is worth the same as someone who finished 20th 20 times.

A less extreme example - for points look how much higher Hawerchuk places than Lafleur.

In the latest all time ranking on this forum, Lafleur placed 19th all time. Largely on his offensive contributions.
Hawerchuk wasn't in the top 70.

I think finishing high counts for a lot more than finishing lower does. If you don't want to do exactly 20 points for 1st and 1 point for 20th - it should still be a lot closer to that than what it currently is to be more representative of player's domination.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

I've updated this thread for the first time in a few years. The first three posts, although still containing a lot of information, are hopefully easier to read now.

The goal-scoring junk stat now has Ovechkin in 3rd place all-time (just barely behind Richard).

Crosby is now tied for 8th in the points junk stat.

 

[seventieslord]

Seasons in the top twenty in points by player, 1927-2019

Row Labels	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	11	12	13	14	15	16	17	18	19	20	Total
Gordie Howe	6	1	5	3	5				1					1				1			23
Wayne Gretzky	11	2	2	1								1							1		18
John Bucyk			1				2	1	2		2	1	2	2	1		1	1	1		17
Alex Delvecchio				1	1	1	2	3	1	2				2		2			1	1	17
Marcel Dionne	1	3	1	1	1		1				1		2	1				2	2		16
Norm Ullman		1	1			3	1	1		1		2	1		1	1	1		1		15
Stan Mikita	4	1	3	1								1			3		1				14
Bobby Hull	3	3		1	1	1	1		1				1		1					1	14
Maurice Richard		5	2	1	1	1	1								2	1					14
Joe Sakic		2	1	1	2	2		1		1				1			2		1		14
Phil Esposito	5	3					1		1						1		2				13
Jaromir Jagr	5	2			1	1		1	1						1				1		13
Jean Beliveau	1	2	4	1		1		2	1		1										13
Alex Ovechkin	1	2	2	1			1	1			1		1		2					1	13
Nels Stewart		1		1	1	1	1	1	1	2					1		2	1			13
Frank Mahovlich			1	1	1	1	1			2		2	3				1				13
Andy Bathgate	1	1	3	3	1												1		2		12
Henri Richard		1		1	1				3	1		1				1			1	2	12
Ron Francis				1	2			1	1		1	1			1		2			2	12
Mario Lemieux	6	1	1	1				1					1								11
Sidney Crosby	2	2	4		1	1				1											11
Ted Lindsay	1	4	1				1		1			1	1				1				11
Steve Yzerman			2	1			2			1			3			1			1		11
Jean Ratelle			1	1		3	1			1		1		1	1			1			11
Ted Kennedy				1	2				1		1		1		1		1	1		2	11
Bernie Geoffrion	2			1		2	2							1	1		1				10
Joe Thornton	1	1	1	1	1			1			1	1	1			1					10
Bryan Trottier	1	1			1	1		1		1		1			1			1	1		10
Toe Blake	1		2			1	1		1		1	1					1		1		10
Teemu Selanne		2			2		1	2			1		1						1		10
Frank Boucher		1	2	1		2	1			1					1		1				10
Mark Messier		1	1		2		1			1		2	1		1						10
Adam Oates			3				1			3			1			1	1				10
Dale Hawerchuk			1	1			1			1	3	1				1	1				10
Rod Gilbert					2		1	1	1			1			1	1	2				10
Luc Robitaille					2				1	1	1	1			1	2		1			10
Evgeni Malkin	2	1		1										1	1		1	1	1		9
Martin St. Louis	2	1			1	1						1				1		1	1		9
Elmer Lach	2		1		1		1		1			1	2								9
Roy Conacher	1					1	1			3		1	1			1					9
Syl Apps Sr		3				1	1	1				2				1					9
Syd Howe		2						1		1	1	1		1		1		1			9
Marty Barry		1	1	2			1	1			1		1					1			9
Mike Bossy		1		3	1	3								1							9
Gilbert Perreault			1	1	1			1	1					1	3						9
Red Kelly						2		1	1			1	1	1	1	1					9
Bun Cook							2			1	1	2				1	1		1		9
Howie Morenz	2		3				1			1									1		8
Bill Cook	2			2	1		1			1					1						8
Bill Cowley	1	1	1	2	1		1	1													8
Sid Abel		2		1	1		1							2			1				8
Jari Kurri		2			1		1	1	1					1					1		8
Claude Giroux		1	2							1	1		1						2		8
Paul Coffey		1	1		1	2			1				2								8
Brett Hull		1		1	1						1			1			1	1	1		8
Mark Recchi			1	1	1					1		2		1					1		8
Darryl Sittler			1					2	2			1			1			1			8
Bert Olmstead				1	1		1		1		1	1		1				1			8
Mats Sundin				1			1				2	1		1			1			1	8
Bill Mosienko					2		1	1	1		1		1					1			8
Pierre Turgeon					1		1						2	1		1	1	1			8
Johnny Gottselig								1				1	1				2	1		2	8
Sweeney Schriner	2	1					1	1		1					1						7
Max Bentley	2		2		1								1							1	7
Charlie Conacher	2		1	2												1				1	7
Dickie Moore	2							2			1	1							1		7
Doug Bentley	1	1	1	1		1	1					1									7
Patrick Kane	1	1	1		1				1						1				1		7
Peter Forsberg	1	1		1	1				1		1			1							7
Gordie Drillon	1	1		1				1					1		1		1				7
Busher Jackson	1	1			2		1						1	1							7
Steven Stamkos		2			2				1			1		1							7
Bobby Clarke		2			1	1		2		1											7
Peter Stastny		1	1	1	1	1	1						1								7
Paul Thompson		1	1					1		2						1			1		7
Aurel Joliat		1				1		2		1					1				1		7
Ryan Getzlaf		1				1				1	1		1		1		1				7
Denis Savard			2			1	1	1					1			1					7
Nicklas Backstrom				2		1		1	1				1			1					7
Cecil Dillon				1	1						1		1				1		1	1	7
Sid Smith					1			1		1					2					2	7
Don McKenney							1	2		1					1	1	1				7
Bernie Federko								1	3	1			1					1			7
Mike Modano								1	1	1			1	1	1	1					7
Dave Keon									1	1	1	1		1	1	1					7
Guy Lafleur	3		2	1																	6
Bobby Orr	2	3	1																		6
Bryan Hextall	1	1				1	1								2						6
Jarome Iginla	1		1			1		1			1					1					6
Milt Schmidt	1			2						2								1			6
Henrik Sedin	1			1			1			1			1							1	6
Eric Lindros	1					1	1				1						1			1	6
Ilya Kovalchuk		1			1	1		1		1	1										6
Bobby Rousseau		1				1					1		1		2						6
John Tavares		1					1									3	1				6
Paul Kariya			2	1			1						1							1	6
Lorne Carr			1		1					1	1	1							1		6
Michel Goulet			1					2	1			1								1	6
Hooley Smith				2		1		1		1						1					6
Doug Gilmour				1	1		1										2		1		6
John LeClair				1	1				2				1			1					6
Bernie Nicholls				1		1						1	1		1	1					6
Daniel Alfredsson				1			1		1						1		1		1		6
Phil Watson				1						1	1		1					1		1	6
Jeremy Roenick					1		1				2				1					1	6
Theoren Fleury						1	1	1			1						1			1	6
Claude Provost						1				1				1	1				1	1	6
Anze Kopitar							1					1			2	1	1				6
Rick Middleton										2			1	2		1					6
Dean Prentice										1		1						2	1	1	6
Camille Henry											1		3		1				1		6
Daniel Sedin	1							1			1		1						1		5
Cooney Weiland	1								1			1		1			1				5
Lynn Patrick		2		1										1						1	5
Pavel Bure		1	1		1		1						1								5
Gaye Stewart		1		1												2				1	5
Bobby Bauer		1					1		1					1				1			5
Pat LaFontaine		1						1							1		1	1			5
Woody Dumart		1							1					1			1		1		5
Ebbie Goodfellow		1													1		1	1		1	5
Clint Smith			1	1	2				1												5
Billy Taylor			1		1					1	1			1							5
Dit Clapper			1					1					1			1				1	5
Dany Heatley				2					1						2						5
Pavel Datsyuk				2						1					1		1				5
Phil Goyette				1			1	1					1			1					5
Paul Ronty					2	1				1						1					5
Marian Hossa					1	1					1	1		1							5
Tod Sloan					1			2					2								5
Phil Kessel						2	2											1			5
Yvan Cournoyer						1		1					1			1			1		5
Blake Wheeler						1			1		1			1					1		5
Herbie Lewis						1			1					1	2						5
Johnny Peirson								1		2							1	1			5
Lanny McDonald								1		1		1		1	1						5
Bill Hay									1		2		1					1			5
Keith Tkachuk											1	2			1				1		5
George Gee												1			1					3	5
George Armstrong															1	2		2			5
Grant Warwick															1	1	1	1		1	5

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

I'm really surprised to see that, two seasons ago already, Crosby tied Lemieux and Esposito for most seasons top-3 in points with eight. Only Gretzky (15) and Howe (12) have more.

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

oh wow has ovechkin really now led the league in goals the most times?

 

[Hockey Outsider]

This thread has been updated for the (shortened) 2020 season. As usual, I've done some validation checks, but let me know if anything looks off.

Ovechkin now sits in 2nd place all-time according to the goal-scoring junk statistic.

In the points junk statistic, Ovechkin broke his tie with Andy Bathgate and now has sole possession of 14th place. Malkin and Kane are now tied for 41st, and Stamkos is now tied for 45th. McDavid is tied for 91st and rising quickly.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

This entire thread has been updated for 2021. I've done a fair amount of spot-checking, but let me know if anything looks incorrect.

No, I'm not suggesting that a 20th place finish from 1927 is as tough or as impressive as a 20th place finish from 2021. But I've found there's hardly any information online about scoring finishes past 10th place, so why not compile everything in one spot?

Crosby finished 10th in scoring in 2021. It was his 12th time finish in the top ten. Only two players - Howe and Gretzky - have more top ten finishes (tied with Beliveau).

It's been six years since Ovechkin placed in the top ten in scoring. But since then, he's had point finishes of 11th, 15th, 15th, 18th and 20th (something that hockey-reference.com and similar sites don't tell you). Ovechkin now has the 7th most seasons in the top twenty in scoring (among post-expansion players, only Gretzky and Dionne have more).

I don't take the "junk" stat too seriously, but Crosby currently ranks 6th all-time. It's conceivable that he could finish his career 3rd behind only Howe and Gretzky. (So can Ovechkin, but that's less likely).

Kane snuck into the top 30 in the junk stat for points - passing Trottier, Francis and Oates, tied with Yzerman and Geoffrion, and within striking distance of Messier, Selanne and Thornton.

The junk stat rewards dominance, and McDavid is flying up the chart. I don't mean that he's shot past players like Gartner, Andreychuk and Ciccarelli (that's obvious). But he's already surpassed Schmidt, Hull, Kariya, Bure and Modano - incredible.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

This thread has been updated for 2022. I've done a fair amount of spot-checking, but let me know if anything looks incorrect.

As I've noted in other threads, Connor McDavid is now one of three players in NHL history who's been 1st or 2nd in scoring six years in a row. Wayne Gretzky and Phil Esposito are the only others to do that. McDavid's in pretty good company (and he's still only 25).

Ovechkin finished in the top 20 in goal-scoring for the 17th time in his career. (He's an arbitrary but impressive accomplishment - he's now finished 4th or higher in goals 13 times, which is more than anybody else in NHL history, including Gordie Howe). He also had his 15th season finishing in the top twenty in scoring (more than anyone post-expansion except Wayne Gretzky and Marcel Dionne).

 

[The Panther]

Maybe the "junk" statistic could be like this:

1st place = 10 pts
2nd place = 8 pts
3rd place = 6 pts
4th/5th = 5 pts
6th to 10th = 4pts
11th to 15th = 3pts
16th to 20th = 2 pts

I agree that 20 points for 1st and 1 point for 20th is far too extreme, so this system corrects that, somewhat.

 

[Hockey Outsider]

Maybe the "junk" statistic could be like this:

1st place = 10 pts
2nd place = 8 pts
3rd place = 6 pts
4th/5th = 5 pts
6th to 10th = 4pts
11th to 15th = 3pts
16th to 20th = 2 pts

I agree that 20 points for 1st and 1 point for 20th is far too extreme, so this system corrects that, somewhat.

Not a bad idea. I'm not going to spend too much time on something that (almost by definition) doesn't have much inherent meaning, but here's the top 20 in points:

PLAYER	RESULT
Wayne Gretzky	148​
Gordie Howe	147​
Phil Esposito	89​
Jaromir Jagr	88​
Mario Lemieux	86​
Stan Mikita	85​
Bobby Hull	84​
Maurice Richard	78​
Sidney Crosby	77​
Marcel Dionne	74​
Jean Beliveau	74​
Alex Ovechkin	69​
Ted Lindsay	64​
Joe Sakic	62​
Andy Bathgate	62​
Alex Delvecchio	60​
John Bucyk	56​
Norm Ullman	56​
Connor McDavid	56​
Nels Stewart	51​

Gretzky edges out Howe by a single point. The lack of full seasons still hurts Lemieux's score (and, obviously, Orr's). McDavid is already in 19th place.

Top ten in goals:

PLAYER	RESULT
Gordie Howe	140​
Alex Ovechkin	126​
Bobby Hull	106​
Maurice Richard	102​
Phil Esposito	92​
Wayne Gretzky	74​
Nels Stewart	68​
Jean Beliveau	67​
Mike Bossy	67​
Frank Mahovlich	66​

Lemieux is 11th place. That just doesn't feel right.

Top ten in assists:

PLAYER	RESULT
Wayne Gretzky	173​
Gordie Howe	132​
Joe Thornton	90​
Adam Oates	84​
Stan Mikita	83​
Jean Beliveau	79​
Andy Bathgate	77​
Mario Lemieux	75​
Frank Boucher	74​
Phil Esposito	74​

Who would have expected Thornton to finish third here?

 

[TheDevilMadeMe]

Who would have expected Thornton to finish third here?

Not to toot my own horn, but I would have guessed either Thornton or Oates as my #3 here for assists (and I would have been right). Combo of durability + longevity + really unbalanced players. Maybe I've played with metrics like this for too long. Phil Esposito on the assists table surprises me at first, then I realize it shouldn't.

Frank Mahovlich surprises me a little on the goals table, but I guess it shows the value of longevity + durability in metrics like these

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A

Not a bad idea. I'm not going to spend too much time on something that (almost by definition) doesn't have much inherent meaning, but here's the top 20 in points:

PLAYER	RESULT
Wayne Gretzky	148​
Gordie Howe	147​
Phil Esposito	89​
Jaromir Jagr	88​
Mario Lemieux	86​
Stan Mikita	85​
Bobby Hull	84​
Maurice Richard	78​
Sidney Crosby	77​
Marcel Dionne	74​
Jean Beliveau	74​
Alex Ovechkin	69​
Ted Lindsay	64​
Joe Sakic	62​
Andy Bathgate	62​
Alex Delvecchio	60​
John Bucyk	56​
Norm Ullman	56​
Connor McDavid	56​
Nels Stewart	51​

Gretzky edges out Howe by a single point. The lack of full seasons still hurts Lemieux's score (and, obviously, Orr's). McDavid is already in 19th place.

Top ten in goals:

PLAYER	RESULT
Gordie Howe	140​
Alex Ovechkin	126​
Bobby Hull	106​
Maurice Richard	102​
Phil Esposito	92​
Wayne Gretzky	74​
Nels Stewart	68​
Jean Beliveau	67​
Mike Bossy	67​
Frank Mahovlich	66​

Lemieux is 11th place. That just doesn't feel right.

Top ten in assists:

PLAYER	RESULT
Wayne Gretzky	173​
Gordie Howe	132​
Joe Thornton	90​
Adam Oates	84​
Stan Mikita	83​
Jean Beliveau	79​
Andy Bathgate	77​
Mario Lemieux	75​
Frank Boucher	74​
Phil Esposito	74​

Who would have expected Thornton to finish third here?

Actually, the most surprising part of these tables to me is Gretzky's "low" ranking in goals. Goes to show that his time as a leading goal scorer wasn't actually that great. Also shows that this metric doesn't take into account margins of victory.