Top scoring prospects from each league?

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Who is the top scoring prospect from your organization for these leagues...

WHL
OHL
QMJHL
AHL
Europe
NCAA
ECHL

And top goalie prospect from the leagues listed?
 
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Leafs...

WHL: Martin Sagat (72 games, 17 goals, 46 assists, 63 points)
OHL: John Mitchell (63 games, 25 goals, 50 assists, 75 points)
QMJHL: Jan Steber (63 game, 17 goals, 17 assists, 34 points)
AHL: Kyle Wellwood (68 games, 29 goals, 41 assists, 70 points)
Europe: Roman Kukumberg (55 games, 10 goals, 11 assists, 21 points)
NCAA: Robbie Earl (40 games, 20 goals, 23 assists, 43 points) <--- Or we can count Colin Murphy.
ECHL: Chris St. Jacques (56 games, 14 goals, 20 assists, 34 points)

Goalies...

WHL: Justin Pogge (53 games, 24-21-5, 2.50 GAA, .907 %, 6 SO)
OHL: None
QMJHL: None
AHL: Mikael Tellqvist (37 games, 21-13, 2.60 GAA, .920 %)
Europe: None
NCAA: None
ECHL: Todd Ford (24 games, 16-4, 2.20 GAA, .934 %, 4 SO)
 
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andora

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who actually has the most points out of prospects owned by the team in said league? or just top scoring offensive prospect?.. i'll go with the latter so i don't have to look up a bunch of numbers :D

WHL - martin sagat
OHL - john mitchell
QMJHL - i don't know if we have one
AHL - kyle wellwod :bow:
Europe - alexander steen

:edit in steber for the Q i guess, i didn't know he came over :)
 

neelynugs

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Who is the top scoring prospect from your organization for these leagues...

WHL: Masi Marjamaki
OHL: Frank Rediker is our only guy here :joker:
QMJHL: David Krejci
AHL: Brad Boyes
Europe: Sergei Zinovjev
NCAA: Ben Walter

And top goalie prospect from the leagues listed:

WHL: none
OHL: Mike Brown
QMJHL: none
AHL: Hannu Toivonen
Europe: none
NCAA: Jordan Sigalet
 

Tb0ne

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WHL: Matt Hansen
OHL: Nathan McIver (only guy in OHL)
QMJHL: Marc-Andre Bernier or Francois-Pierre Guenette
AHL: Ryan Kesler (Jason King if you consider him a prospect still)
Europe: Evgeny Gladskikh
NCAA: Brent Skinner

And top goalie prospect from the leagues listed:

WHL: none
OHL: none
QMJHL: Julien Ellis-Plante (was near the tops of the league but his stats suffered in the closing months of the year due to overuse)
AHL: Alexander Auld
Europe: Lukas Mensator
NCAA: Cory Schneider
 

Kevin Forbes

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andora said:
:edit in steber for the Q i guess, i didn't know he came over :)
He's been over for the past two seasons...even before the Leafs drafted him

Anaheim:
AHL: Konopka/Holmqvist - 37 points
ECHL: Stepp - 6 points
WHL: Getzlaf - 54 points
OHL: Perry - 130 points
QMJHL: Saunders - 28 points
NCAA: Christie - 36 points
European Leagues: Martensson - 34 points
 

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Habs

WHL: Kyle Chipchura (28 GP 14 G 18 A 32 P)
OHL: Mark Flood (60 GP 4 G 37 A 41 P)
QMJHL: Maxim Lapierre (69 GP 25 G 27 A 52 P)... Danny Stewart also 52 pts
AHL: Tomas Plekanec (67 GP 23 G 29 A 52 P)
Europe: Mikhail Grabovsky (63 GP 18 G 20 A 38 P)... Perezhogin close behind and still alive (46 GP 16 G 20 A 36 P)
NCAA: J.T. Wyman (33 GP 5 G 6 A 11 P)
ECHL: Cory Urquhart (53 GP 14 G 10 A 24 P)

Goalies

WHL: None
OHL: None
QMJHL: Jaroslav Halak (47 GP, 24-17-4, 2.76 GAA, 0.914 %)
AHL: Yann Danis (43 GP, 21-15, 2.47 GAA, 0.921 %)
Europe: Christopher Heino-Lindberg (tier 2 - 30 GP, 1.81 GAA, .927 %)
NCAA: None
ECHL: Olivier Michaud (37 GP, 16-13-6, 2.61 GAA, 0.916 %)
 
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Quiet Robert

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Europe: None

Don't forget Christopher Heino-Lindberg, 20 years old, and looks to be having a good year.

Team GP G.AA SV%
Hammarby Swe-2 30 1.81 .927
Team Sweden U20 WJC-20 4 4.43 .852
Hammarby J20 SuperElit 3 2.22 .944
 

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AHL: Jared Aulin (54-9-24-33)
WHL: Eric Fehr (71-59-52-111)
OHL: None
QMJHL: None
NCAA: Travis Morin (36-12-19-31) ... Bourque had just 23pts in 34 games.
RUS: Alexander Semin (50-19-11-30) ... Oveckin has 27pts in 37 games.
FIN: Sami Lepisto (55-7-18-25)
SEL: Johnny Oduya (49-2-4-6)
SwissA: Peter Guggisberg (36-12-7-19)
 

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WHL- John Lammers(16 goals, 30 assists, 46 points)
OHL- B.J. Crombeen(31 goals, 18 assists, 49 points)
QMJHL- Francis Wathier(15 goals, 18 assists, 33 points)
AHL- Steve Ott(17 goals, 21 assists, 38 points)
Europe-
Finland- Jussi Jokinen(23 goals, 24 assists, 57 points; Highest scoring prospect in the country)
Sweden- Yared Hagos(6 goals, 15 assists, 21 points)
Czech Republic- Vojtech Polak(2 goals, 7 assists, 9 points)
Russia- Alexei Tereschenko(3 goals, 6 assists, 9 points)
Belarus- Artem Chernov(7 goals, 8 assists, 15 points)
NCAA- Gino Guyer(11 goals, 19 assists, 30 points)
ECHL- David Bararuk(14 goals, 22 assists, 36 points)

Goalies

WHL- None
OHL- Eero Kilpelainen(14-17-5, 3.29 GAA, .900 sv%)
QMJHL- None
AHL- Mike Smith(15-15-2, 2.47 GAA, .911 sv%)
Europe- Tobias Stephan(19-20-5, 2.82 GAA, .899 sv%)
NCAA- None
ECHL- None
 
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WHL: Konstantin Pushkarev - 69 GP, 22 G, 30 A, 52 Pts
OHL: Only have goalies
QMJHL: Uh... Eric Neilson - 54 GP, 13 G, 13 A, 26 Pts
AHL: Mike Cammalleri - 66 GP, 40 G, 52 A, 92 Pts
Europe: Tuukka Mantyla (SEL) - 48 GP, 8 G, 14 A, 22 Pts
NCAA: Jeff Tambellini - 40 GP, 21 G, 31 A, 52 Pts
ECHL: Connor James - 43 GP, 17 G, 24 A, 41 Pts

Goalies (with best stats)
WHL: None
OHL: Danny Taylor - 31 GP, 2.64 GAA, .911 SV%, 2 SO
QMJHL: None
AHL: Adam Hauser - 27 GP, 2.02 GAA, .93 SV%, 5 SO
Europe: Carl Grahn (Fin Jr.) - 30 GP, 3.28 GAA, .901 SV%, 1 SO
NCAA: Matt Zaba - 2.46 GAA, .916 SV%
ECHL: Barry Brust - 36 GP, 1.93 GAA, .928 SV%, 4 SO
 

leafaholix*

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Kevin Forbes said:
but no longer considered a prospect by HF's rules, because he's already played more then 65 games in the NHL.
Nobody cares about HF's criteria.

He's still a prospect... as in the Ducks antipicate great things for him.

Number of games don't count, atleast not in this thread. HF's criteria is flawed.
 

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Best scorers (not necessarily best prospects):

WHL: Nigel Dawes (Kootenay Ice 63GP-50G-26A-76PTS)
OHL: Jakub Petruzalek (Ottawa 67s 59GP-23G-40A-63PTS)
QMJHL: Bruce Graham (Moncton Wildcats 46GP-23G-18A-41PTS)
AHL: Dominic Moore (Hartford Wolfpack 66GP 16G-29A-45PTS)
Europe: Jarkko Immonen (JYP 54G-19G-28A-47PTS)
NCAA: Darin Olver (Northern Michigan 40GP-9G-34A-43PTS)
ECHL: Lee Falardeau (Charlotte Checkers 47GP-17G-12A-29PTS)

Goalies:

AHL: Jason LaBarbera (Hartford Wolfpack 0.933sv% 1.85GAA)
Europe: Henrik Lundqvist (Frolunda SEL 0.935sv% 1.79GAA)
NCAA: Alvaro Montoya (Michigan 0.895sv% 2.52GAA)
ECHL: Dan Blackburn (Victoria Salmon Kings 0.892sv% 3.54GAA)
 

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Carl O'Steen said:
Nobody cares about HF's criteria.

He's still a prospect... as in the Ducks antipicate great things for him.

Number of games don't count, atleast not in this thread. HF's criteria is flawed.

Although this might be better served in another thread but,

Suggestions on how to improve the criteria?
 

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Calgary:
WHL: C Boyd 61pts
OHL: C Tardif 65pts
QMJHL: D Pardy 39pts
AHL: RW Kobasew 63pts
Europe: Troubachev 26pts

Goalie
AHL Krahn 15-10-0-2 5SO 2.5gaa 0.920sv%
 

leafaholix*

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Kevin Forbes said:
Although this might be better served in another thread but,

Suggestions on how to improve the criteria?
I'm not sure one person can come up with the/a right way, but I think you need to actually look up the meaning of the word "prospect" and not have guys like Lupul, Stajan, etc... completely scratched off the site at age 21 while players like Brad Leeb still make the site (recently graduated).

NHL managers and scouts still look at these players (Stajan, Lupul, etc...) as prospects, because they understand the meaning of the word.

It tremendously messes up the organizational rankings, which are to represent the calibre of prospects within the organizations, rather than the players under 26 years of age who have yet to play 65 games in the NHL or whatever the criteria.
 

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CHL
WHL - Zack Fitzgerald -D- Seattle - 65gp - 7g 18a - 25pts
OHL - Jonathin Lehun -C-Owen Sound- 58gp - 17g 33a - 50pts
QMJHL -Jonathin Boutin -RW- 70gp - 23g 30a - 53pts

NCAA
ECAC - Lee Stempiniak -RW- 35gp - 14g 29a - 43pts
WCHA - David Backes -C- 38gp - 17g 23a - 40 pts

Europe
SEL - Carl Soderberg -C- 38gp - 0g 5a - 5pts
RSL - Viktor Alexandrov -RW- 50gp - 8g 10a - 18pts
FINjr - Juha-Matti Aaltonen -RW- 30gp - 26g 21a - 47pts

AHL
Jay McClement -C- 66gp - 12g 26a - 38pts
Jon DiSalvatore - RW - 66gp - 20g 18a - 38pts
Blake Evans -C- 66gp - 14g 34a - 38pts

ECHL
Justin Maiser -LW- 56gp - 16g 13a - 29pts

Goaltenders

WHL - Marek Schwarz - Vancouver - 56 GP - 2.67 GAA 26W 24L 4T .900 SP
AHL - Jason Bacashiua - 28gp - 2.31 GAA 16W 10L .909 SP
ECHL - Chris Beckford-Tseu - 26gp - 2.70 GAA 9W 12L .909 SP
FIN - Tuomas Nissinen - 16gp - 3.96 GAA 1W 1L 12T .896 SP

*Can't read Barulin's stats
 

Kevin Forbes

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Carl O'Steen said:
I'm not sure one person can come up with the/a right way, but I think you need to actually look up the meaning of the word "prospect" and not have guys like Lupul, Stajan, etc... completely scratched off the site at age 21 while players like Brad Leeb still make the site (recently graduated).

NHL managers and scouts still look at these players (Stajan, Lupul, etc...) as prospects, because they understand the meaning of the word.

It tremendously messes up the organizational rankings, which are to represent the calibre of prospects within the organizations, rather than the players under 26 years of age who have yet to play 65 games in the NHL or whatever the criteria.


I full heartedly agree that there's a balance that needs to be made, because at the same time you can't have someone like Rick Nash and Jay Bouwmeester still be considered a prospect.
The 65 game rule was established to try to judge when a player has made it to the NHL and could be considered a viable NHLer. Hockey's Future is covering prospects, not young, up and coming NHL players. In the case of Lupul and Stajan, I think everyone can agree, the only reason they are in the AHL is due to the lockout. To me, that makes them NHL players.
Do their respective teams hope they improve and have big plans for them in the future? Yes, most definitely, but the same can be said for a player like Nash or Bouwmeester.
On the other end of the stick, you have players like Mikael Holmqvist who should still be considered a prospect, despite an older age. Because of circumstances like playing in the European leagues or in the college leagues, they are a bit older but no less of a prospect.
And if you're going to include players who've done their time in Europe and college, why should you exclude players who've needed some extra time in the minors?
Anyway, I know this sounds like I'm taking the company line with this whole strategy, but I have had similar thoughts like yourself on who's being included and who's being excluded. The problem with too many clauses or stipulations is it gets confusing for the casual reader (hell, some people will be asking why Holmqvist at 25 is still a prospect). I'd be interested to continue this conversation if you have anymore thoughts, although may I suggest PMs or making an alternate thread so we don't hijack this one.
 

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Chicago Blackhawks:

WHL: Colin Fraser 24 44 68 pts, 148 pims
QMJHL: NONE
OHL: David Bolland: 34 51 85 pts, 97 pims
NCAA: Jacob Dowell 12 14 26 pts, 70 pims

EUROPE:

SEL: Jonas Nordqvist 16 16 32 pts, 12 pims
FIN: Jari Viukhola: 15 16 31 pts, 30 pims (44 games)
RSL: Alex Zotkin: 4 7 11 pts, 32 pims (25 games)

** Pro**

AHL: Rene Borque: 28 22 50 pts, 90 pims
ECHL: Vlad Gusev: 6 11 17pts, 90 pims

**GOALIES**

QMJHL: Corey Crawford: 2.47 28 16 6 (W/L/T) 6 Shutouts .920 sv %
ECHL: Mike Brodeur 2.85 17 15 6 .922 sv %

AHL: Craig Anderson 1.74 8 1 1 2 Shutouts .939 sv % (was injured)
Mike Leighton 2.00 20 16 3 7 Shutouts .922 sv %

-fullmetalninja
 
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