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Top 4 countries?

Discussion in 'International Tournaments' started by Lollipop, Jun 1, 2018.

  1. habsterr

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    1. Canada
    2. Sweden
    3. USA
    4. Russia
     
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    1. Sweden
    2. Canada
    3. Russia
    4. Finland
    5. North Korea
    6. USA
     
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    1 Canada 2 Sweeden. #3 USA Russia,Finland #4 Czech
     
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    Sweden
    Auston Matthews
    Russia
     
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    That is only very recently (and using those recent result the US places in the top 4 as they are currently in the IIHF’s top 4 rankings)

    That said using it as an historic benchmark for the US is kind of a joke. I don’t even think most people, including the players, knew the tournament even existed prior to the early 00’s. That is an exaggeration but the world championships have always been an off the radar tournament here. It isn’t something players grew up with so it isn’t something they want to participate after a long season. In many ways US players are even more Stanley Cup focused than Canadians.

    If you look at the best on best results since the dissolution of the Soviet Union, the US is clearly second behind Canada. They won in 96 and have been a finalist three other times (91 Canada Cup, 02 and 10 Olympics) in that time span.

    But the question isn’t the last 30 years it is now. My answer to that is a follows

    1. Canada
    2/3. Sweden and USA (I think the team are pretty much even)
    4/5. Russia / Finland
     
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    Cannot say i am ever worried when Sweden play USA. it feels like meeting chezh or Slovakia in all honesty. More worried about finland and russia.
     
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    Canada

    USA
    Sweden

    Russia/Finland
     
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    Finland

    Switzerland
     
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    1. Canada
    2. USA
    3. North Korea(Trump giving Kim 20 Top US-Players from NHL ;))
    4. Qatar (Handball-Model/Import players from Top-nations))
    5. Sweden
    6. Finland
     
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    There was a time when I would have said Canada without reservation. However, I am floored at how well Finland and Sweden both maximize their available resources; if Hockey Canada was smart - which it isn't (just look at the idiots who are still employed there) - its self-proclaimed "hockey people" would take a long, hard look at how those Scandinavian countries develop young players. Put down that greasy pork chop, Salmond, swallow your pride instead of the next morsel, and study how these other countries do it. Personally, I think a standing Canadian national team at the junior level - like the muricans have - should be seriously considered. But see, that would take brains and effort, and both are in short supply at Hockey Canada. Thus, my list of the top 4 is as follows:

    1) Finland
    2) Sweden
    3) Canada (should obviously be higher, but has squandered so much, and has basically signed away its future in the dark)
    4) Murica

    On a P4P basis, hard to see how it can be anyone other than Finland in 2018.
     

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