Top 10 2003-2004 take 2

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  1. CRAZY_FAN

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    Sorry for the first tread (seem there was a problem of database...anyway)
    I'm always interest in this kind of stuff, dont know if there was one done before but...

    Just interested to know your top 10 if the 2003 and 2004 draft was merge...

    mine:

    1-Ovechkin
    2-Malkin
    3-Zherdev
    4-Staal
    5-Fleury
    6-Horton
    7-Vanek
    8-Phaneuf
    9-Barker
    10-Michalek
     
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    1. Ovechkin
    2. Malkin
    3. Fleury
    4. Zherdev
    5. Phaneuf
    6. Horton
    7. Staal
    8. Barker
    9. Michalek
    10. Vanek
     
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    1. Ovechkin
    2. Zherdev
    3. Fleury
    4. Malkin
    5. Staal
    6. Phaneuf
    7. Horton
    8. Michalek
    9. Barker
    10. Vanek
     
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    1. Ovechkin
    2. Fleury
    3. Zherdev
    4. Malkin
    5. Phaneuf
    6. Horton
    7. Staal
    8. Michalek
    9. Barker
    10. Coburn
     
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    Ovechkin
    Fleury
    Staal
    Malkin
    Horton
    Zherdev
    Suter
    Barker
    Vanek
     
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    1. Ovechkin
    2. Malkin
    3. Fleury
    4. Zherdev
    5. Horton
    6. Staal
    7. Barker
    8. Phaneuf
    9. Michalek
    10. Bergeron
     
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    1-Ovechkin
    2-Malkin
    3-Zherdev
    4-Phaneuf
    5-Staal
    6-Fleury
    7-Barker
    8-Bergeron
    9-Horton
    10-Kostitsyn
     
  8. degroat*

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    Not even close.
     
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    1.Ovechkin
    2.Staal
    3.Malkin
    4.Fleury
    5.Zherdev
    6.Horton
    7.Phaneuf
    8.Michalek
    9.Vanek
    10.Suter
     
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    1. Ovechkin
    2. Malkin
    3. Fleury
    4. Staal
    5. Zherdev
    6. Horton
    7. Phaneuf
    8. Michalek
    9. Barker
    10. Vanek
     
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    1. Ovechkin
    2. Malkin
    3. Fleury
    4. Zherdev
    5. Horton
    6. Staal
    7. Michalek
    8. Suter
    9. Phaneuf
    10. Vanek

    just to give you an idea of the 2003 top-end depth...

    11. Coburn
    12. Carter
    13. Parise
    14. Barker
    15. Kastitsyn
     
  12. Letang fan 58

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    2 Malkin
    3 Fleury
    4 Phaneuf
    5 Zherdev
    6 Stall
    7 Coburn
    8 Vanek
    9 Horton
    10 Barker
     
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    1. Ovechkin
    2. Malkin
    3. Staal
    4. Zherdev
    5. Fleury
    6. Phaneuf
    7. Horton
    8. Michalek
    9. Barker
    10. Suter
     
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    1. Ovechkin
    2. Zherdev
    3. Malkin
    4. Fleury
    5. Horton
    6. Staal
    7. Phaneuf
    8. Michalek
    9. Vanek
    10. Coburn/Barker tie
     
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    Ovechkin
    Zherdev
    Malkin
    Fleury
    Staal
    Horton
    Phaneuf
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    Montoya
    Suter
     
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    Ovechkin
    Malkin
    Fleury
    Zherdev
    Staal
    Horton
    Phaneuf
    Michalek
    Barker
    Vanek
     
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    Ovechkin
    Malkin
    Zherdev
    Fleury
    Phaneuf
    Vanek
    Staal
    Horton
    Barker
    Suter/Michalek

    Damn if 2003 doesnt turn out to be a great draft year for the first round
     
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    1 Alexander Ovechkin
    2 Evgenii Malkin
    3 Eric Staal
    4 Nathan Horton
    5 M-A Fleury
    6 Nikolai Zherdev
    7 Braydon Coburn
    8 Andrei Kostitsyn
    9 Dion Phaneuf
    10 Ryan Suter
     
  19. Kostitsyn? WTF has he done to get in the top 10?

    1. Alexander Ovechkin
    2. Evengii Malkin
    3. Nikolai Zherdev
    4. Marc-André Fleury
    5. Eric Staal
    6. Nathan Horton
    7. Dion Phaneuf
    8. Milan Michalek
    9. Thomas Vanek
    10. Cam Barker
     
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    Why don't you wait until you see him play before saying he shouldn't be in anyone's top 10?
     
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    I'll bite. What has Phaneuf and Vanek done, Zherdev and Malkin too for that matter, that makes them more valuable than Eric Staal, who already has one really fine season under his belt at the NHL level? If the Calder Trophy was just for 18-19 year old players, it would have been close between Bergeron, Staal, Zherdev, and Horton. Where does Vanek deserve to be ranked higher than these players?
     
  22. TVanek26*

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    Homer alert

    Eric Staal had a 31 point season as a rookie.He's played exactly 1 season.For players this young,it's all about long term potential.Staal played early on a horrible Hurricanes team,while Phaneuf and Vanek couldn't because of depth.So what if Bergeron had a great 1st season?People know that guys like Malkin and Vanek will have higher point totals when they actually play a season.
     
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    Staal - 31 points in 81 games
    Zherdev - 34 points in 54 games

    That's what Zherdev's done to be ranked above Staal, now as far as the other players go it's personal preference, whom that poster feels will have a better career.
     
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    It's Brad Nowell if you're talking about the lead singer of Sublime, in your avatar. If you already knew that, please disregard that. ;)

    However, I don't feel that i'm being a homer by saying that. Vanek was drafted lower, has higher bust potential, and didn't even play in the NHL last season. How could one justify putting him above players like Horton and Staal is a little beyond me. Phaneuf in all likelyhood is going to be a fantastic defenseman at this level, but he doesn't have franchise player potential. Not a whole lot of defenseman prospects do. Very rarely do you come across a Chris Pronger, Rob Blake, or a Scott Stevens. Phaneuf is going to be fantastic, but i'd draft him in the 5-7 range in this combined draft that is so full of franchise players. Suter, while still great, is a step below Phaneuf in my opinion so that makes him around 6-8 on my list probably. The reason that Bergeron isn't being considered in these discussions is the fact that he was a 2nd round selection, and people don't think he has a considerable amount of upside. Staal was selected 2nd overall. To make the comparison between the two in terms of pre-draft value based on potential is a little ridiculous to me.

    One season does not a career make, that's true. However, when you're dealing with a player who has already fairly established the fact that he's going to be a player at the NHL level at the tender age of 19 years old, you can't rank him below could-be's and might be's.
     
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    I can understand that one, as people are usually more inclined to take offense over anything else. My beef was more with Vanek and a few of the others.
     
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