Tkachuk-Matthews-Laine vs Boeser-McDavid-Marner

[member 297479]

Tkachuk-Matthews-Laine, mainly because of Tkachuk. He just plays the game the right way and isn't afraid of going into the hard areas to battle. Good leadership qualities and also, quality locker room guy.

 

[bobholly39]

McDavid almost always makes his side win in these.

He does so here too.

 

[Haatley]

^What?

Anyways

Boeser is better than Tkachuk while McDavid takes out Matthews puts their trio ahead.

Tkachuk does so much more than Boeser.

 

[Ace of Hades]

Tkachuk does so much more than Boeser.

No he doesn't. He just provides more grit.

Boeser is objectively a better player and has been far more impressive than Tkachuk has in his rookie season. Boeser also faced number one D-pairing, unlike Tkachuk.

 

[Haatley]

No he doesn't. He just provides more grit.

Boeser is objectively a better player and has been far more impressive than Tkachuk has in his rookie season. Boeser also faced number one D-pairing, unlike Tkachuk.

No Tkachuk is literally better at everything except goal scoring and skating.

When Boeser was Tkachuks age he was not in the NHL.

 

[Ace of Hades]

No Tkachuk is literally better at everything except goal scoring and skating.

When Boeser was Tkachuks age he was not in the NHL.

This is silly.

There's no evidence you can suggest that he's better at everything other than grit.

Boeser has more IQ and is better at playmaking for starters.

Doesn't matter if Boeser was not in the NHL at Tkachuk's age, we're talking about who is better currently.

Boeser IS the better hockey player than Tkachuk, and several non-Canuck fans have recognized that as such in this very thread.

 

[The Moose is Loose]

Yes and no. 2015 has McDavid but 2016 is much more difficult to play against, and should be better defensively.
I'd almost want to say they make a better playoff line.

They have Laine on their line, how are they any better defensively

 

[authentic]

Boeser-McDavid-Marner clearly I'd say.

 

[Peggy]

They have Laine on their line, how are they any better defensively

your one of those people who thinks laine is a defensive liability don't you? laine is no selke finalist, but his defense is fine. he shoots out from further away and is usually one of the first players on the back check

 

[Haatley]

This is silly.

There's no evidence you can suggest that he's better at everything other than grit.

Boeser has more IQ and is better at playmaking for starters.

Doesn't matter if Boeser was not in the NHL at Tkachuk's age, we're talking about who is better currently.

Boeser IS the better hockey player than Tkachuk, and several non-Canuck fans have recognized that as such in this very thread.

You know they track defensive stats, right? And zone starts? And quality of competition etc?

 

[The Moose is Loose]

your one of those people who thinks laine is a defensive liability don't you? laine is no selke finalist, but his defense is fine. he shoots out from further away and is usually one of the first players on the back check

Everyone says this. If Laine is average defensively, who is below average?
No one ever wants to admit the flaws in the players, especially their star players.

Laine is damn good at what he does, but he is not even average when it comes to defensive play, he's one of the weakest ones on the jets. Probably the weakest in their top 9.

 

[Spazkat]

Tkachuk-Matthews-Laine, mainly because of Tkachuk. He just plays the game the right way and isn't afraid of going into the hard areas to battle. Good leadership qualities and also, quality locker room guy.

I went exactly the opposite. Laine good enough to offset the difference between McD and Matthews, but Tkachuk was the deal breaker and not in a good way. Agitating and grit for a sub 50 point forward just doesn't compete with the skill on the McD line.

 

[Ace of Hades]

You know they track defensive stats, right? And zone starts? And quality of competition etc?

Make your case then.

 

[snowkiddin]

Tkachuk << Boeser
Matthews << McDavid
Laine >> Marner

Going with 2015.

 

[CherryToke]

No Tkachuk is literally better at everything except goal scoring and skating.

And providing offence in general.

 

[Addison Rae]

Pretty much every one would take Boeser over Tkachuk give it a rest.

Boeser was on pace for ~40
goals as a rookie on the 30tj team in the NHL...

 

[Peggy]

Everyone says this. If Laine is average defensively, who is below average?
No one ever wants to admit the flaws in the players, especially their star players.

Laine is damn good at what he does, but he is not even average when it comes to defensive play, he's one of the weakest ones on the jets. Probably the weakest in their top 9.

no. cuz he really isn't that bad. he definitely coughs up the puck every once and a while , but he's also not a huge defensive liability as he covers up ice on his back check

he wasn't scoring a whole lot pm the 2nd line, but they weren't getting scored on a lot either

 

[member 297479]

I went exactly the opposite. Laine good enough to offset the difference between McD and Matthews, but Tkachuk was the deal breaker and not in a good way. Agitating and grit for a sub 50 point forward just doesn't compete with the skill on the McD line.

I think I forgot the

 

[bert]

This is silly.

There's no evidence you can suggest that he's better at everything other than grit.

Boeser has more IQ and is better at playmaking for starters.

Doesn't matter if Boeser was not in the NHL at Tkachuk's age, we're talking about who is better currently.

Boeser IS the better hockey player than Tkachuk, and several non-Canuck fans have recognized that as such in this very thread.

You can make an argument that Boeser is better but saying it's hockey IQ is dead wrong. That Tkachuks biggest strength in My opinion.

I know I'm in the minority but I prefer the big boys here. That line would be unstoppable in the playoffs.

Don't see a fit with Marner and Mcdavid not enough puck to go around.

 

[Ace of Hades]

You can make an argument that Boeser is better but saying it's hockey IQ is dead wrong. That Tkachuks biggest strength in My opinion.

I know I'm in the minority but I prefer the big boys here. That line would be unstoppable in the playoffs.

Don't see a fit with Marner and Mcdavid not enough puck to go around.

Nope not wrong.

Tkachuk's biggest strength is his grit and having the quality of putting players off their games

I have watched many games played by Tkachuk this season and I can safely say that hockey IQ, Boeser has him beat.

 

[bert]

Nope not wrong.

Tkachuk's biggest strength is his grit and having the quality of putting players off his game.

You are disagreeing and arguing two different points...

Disagree he has incredible vision below the dots. He is always around the puck but is a poor skater. Direct tell he has elite hockey sense.

I am not saying his grit isn't important they all contribute to the player he is. However without the hockey sense and high high hockey IQ he is just a pest or a 4th line goon. Without the grit he is likely still a top 6 player.

 

[Haatley]

And providing offence in general.

Lol what?
Tkachuk was on pace for 60 points this year before his injury. With second line minutes. While playing against opposing top lines.
Where was Boeser when he was Tkachuk's age?

 

[jonlin]

I have to go with Tkatchuk-Matthews -Laine. I feel they could be a very effective line. Matthews and Laine would provide the scoring and Tkatchuk brings the grit. Could work really well. in form of overall skill and speed the McDavid line is probably better, but going into playoffs I would take the matthews-line.

 

[CherryToke]

Lol what?
Tkachuk was on pace for 60 points this year before his injury. With second line minutes. While playing against opposing top lines.
Where was Boeser when he was Tkachuk's age?

Career high .72 PPG vs .88 PPG rookie season. What?

 

[Mobiandi]

No he doesn't. He just provides more grit.

Boeser is objectively a better player and has been far more impressive than Tkachuk has in his rookie season. Boeser also faced number one D-pairing, unlike Tkachuk.

Are you serious? The 3M line is consistently out there against other team's top lines. They're our shutdown line, and Tkachuk put up nearly 50 points on it.