The worst contract moving forward: Dubois or Huberdeau?

Moving forward, which contract is worse?

  • Dubois

    Votes: 47 27.0%
  • Huberdeau

    Votes: 114 65.5%
  • Both are equally worst

    Votes: 13 7.5%

  • Total voters
    174

WhiskeyYerTheDevils

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I don't think Dubois will ever be worth his contract, but he's only overpaid by ~1-2M IMO, while Huberdeau is overpaid by about 6M while being 5 years older.

At first glance, it looks like Dubois' production fell off a cliff this year after a career high 63 points last year (71 point pace). But digging a bit deeper, that's not really an honest appraisal.

Compared to last year, his role was significantly reduced, especially with being dropped to PP2. His PP TOI was cut nearly in half, and his ES TOI dropped by more than a minute. But surprisingly, his 5v5 production was arguably the best we've seen from since before the pandemic. Here's his 5v5 scoring rates over the last 4 years:

2021: 1.21 P/60 0.91 P1/60 6.6% oish%
2022: 1.66 P/60 1.16 P1/60 8.0% oish%
2023: 1.78 P/60 1.19 P1/60 9.9% oish%
2024: 1.75 P/60 1.30 P1/60 7.7% oish%

His P1/60 has climbed for 4 straight seasons, despite a 22% drop in his oish% this year. His 5v5 scoring was effectively identical to Kopitar. Oddly enough, the King's 3 top centers all had nearly identical 5v5 point totals:

Danault
33p 1.87 p/60 8.0 oish%
Kopitar
32p 1.75 p/60 9.2 oish%
Dubois
31p 1.75 p/60 7.7 oish%

And compared to Huberdeau, Dubois was a fair bit more productive while playing the more important position (Huberdeau had 27p and 1.46 p/60 at 5v5).

Looking at it from that perspective, Dubois didn't appear to have that bad of a year, even with a lower oish%. I think he'd quite easily bounce back to a 60-70 point player if given a larger PP role and a bit more ES ice time.
 

GeeoffBrown

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One thing is that the Kings are trying to be a playoff team and the Flames are trying to suck, so Huberdeau's contract is not as impactful. Also, PLD seems like a jerk and Huberdeau is cool.

Still, I think I'd trade Huberdeau for PLD, so Huberdeau is worse
 

BLNY

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Peak Huberdeau is a better player, but he's also making $3 million more and is older. He'll be 31 in just over a month. Seven more years at $11.5 million is a big pill. Can he get to 70 points for each of the next few years to try and give it value? I don't think so.

PLD will be 26 in June, so at least you get him for his prime - such as it is. He'll show up periodically for the next few years. Maybe have an entire season of some quality. Then there's the cloud that is his perceived attitude and whether or not he's toxic in the room.

It's close for me. I could lean either way depending on the day and the breeze. I picked equally bad.
 

M88K

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Peak Huberdeau is a better player, but he's also making $3 million more and is older. He'll be 31 in just over a month. Seven more years at $11.5 million is a big pill. Can he get to 70 points for each of the next few years to try and give it value? I don't think so.

PLD will be 26 in June, so at least you get him for his prime - such as it is. He'll show up periodically for the next few years. Maybe have an entire season of some quality. Then there's the cloud that is his perceived attitude and whether or not he's toxic in the room.

It's close for me. I could lean either way depending on the day and the breeze. I picked equally bad.
not that it makes much difference but he's only make 10.5m
 
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