TV: The Walking Dead | S7 | PART III | (NO COMIC DISCUSSION/SPOILERS)

[Soliloquy of a Dogge]

There was a major, major issue with this episode.

Shoddy choreography and underwhelming direction. If you're going to do an episode like this, you have got to find a way to make action, in this case the gun fight scenes, more impactful. All the various gun fights in this episode bled into one another, felt too similar and were disjointed in terms of execution. The show has really lacked in the atmosphere department for a while now and the bland way in which the directors frame these scenes remove any measure of tension from them.

Walking Dead feels like a show that is sacrificing any sort of meaningful development and banking on a glut of action to drive its narrative. It's pacing is a constant issue and putting a damper on this show.

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

Came here to say exactly that since after watching this new episode I decided to give up on this show. I thought I give it a final shot with the two first episodes and it has been cringeworthly bad. Goodbye Walkin Dead, and thanks for all the fish.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

What was with the closeups at the beginning and at the end.

Very annoying. Took me completely out of the story.

 

[heynowbababooey]

Its sad to see what a joke this show has become.

 

[Seb]

Morales is to Walking Dead what Gendry was to GoT

 

[Chuck Norris Trophy]

What was with the closeups at the beginning and at the end.

Very annoying. Took me completely out of the story.

Just a gimmick how they used easy 5 minutes of the episode.

 

[Blender]

Morales is to Walking Dead what Gendry was to GoT

Not sure 4 years of driving gives the same muscles as 4 years of rowing though.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

The first two episodes are a staunch improvement over the majority of season 7, flaws aside.

I don't watch walking dead to point out plot holes and plot armour.

 

[chaosrevolver]

Curious if Morales stays with the Saviours or if he eventually ends up back with the crew.

Obviously they are leaning to the former, but curious if they twist it.

 

[b1e9a8r5s]

Just finished the episode. I really don't know why I still watch

 

[clunk]

It's amazing how far this show has fallen since Season 1

Season 1 was some of the best TV ever.

This is now 'unrealistic' trash (funny I'm saying that considering it's a zombie apocalypse show, but still).

Should have rained down flurry of bullets on Negan as soon as he stepped out of his compound in clear line of fire in E1.

Dumb to drag it on this long.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

It's amazing how far this show has fallen since Season 1

Season 1 was some of the best TV ever.

This is now 'unrealistic' trash (funny I'm saying that considering it's a zombie apocalypse show, but still).

Should have rained down flurry of bullets on Negan as soon as he stepped out of his compound in clear line of fire in E1.

Dumb to drag it on this long.

Or more realistically as I pointed out earlier, Negan hides in a window and talks to Rick... like any intelligent person would do when a bunch of crazies who threatened to kill you show up with automatic weapons.

 

[Blender]

Or more realistically as I pointed out earlier, Negan hides in a window and talks to Rick... like any intelligent person would do when a bunch of crazies who threatened to kill you show up with automatic weapons.

Nah, he knew his plot armor would protect him.

 

[Bubba Thudd]

Or more realistically as I pointed out earlier, Negan hides in a window and talks to Rick... like any intelligent person would do when a bunch of crazies who threatened to kill you show up with automatic weapons.

Rick thought of that. That's why they used a crap-ton of ammo shooting out all the windows.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

It's amazing how far this show has fallen since Season 1

Season 1 was some of the best TV ever.

This is now 'unrealistic' trash (funny I'm saying that considering it's a zombie apocalypse show, but still).

Should have rained down flurry of bullets on Negan as soon as he stepped out of his compound in clear line of fire in E1.

Dumb to drag it on this long.

I wouldn't say season 1 was THAT great to be called the best TV ever, but it was definitely better than what we get now and one of the better seasons. I think the show peaked some point around season 3-5 range, and the show should have ended season 5 (like Breaking Bad did), because after season 5 there were more points where they would stretch things out and kill time and slow the show down to a crawl.

Some of the moments lately are really stupid. Rick and co. have had many opportunities to kill Negan because Negan's arrogance always puts him right out in front and in plain view, yet no one seems to have thought to set up a shooter from far away and kill him, or just pull a gun and shoot him (or Rick's aim magically disappearing whenever Negan is around compared to every other moment).

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Rick thought of that. That's why they used a crap-ton of ammo shooting out all the windows.

They didn't shoot out all the bricks Negan would have been hiding behind when he was talking from the window. Having glass in the window is irrelevant.

 

[Bubba Thudd]

They didn't shoot out all the bricks Negan would have been hiding behind when he was talking from the window. Having glass in the window is irrelevant.

I know, but they sure had fun shooting all the windows out anyway.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

To me not shooting Negan on the spot is more of an intimidation tactic by Rick & Co then anything else. Sure they coulda shot and killed Negan, but they put on a show of force and offered a truce to everyone if they turn Negan over for dead basically. It plants a certain seed of doubt behind the scenes amongst that group, and maybe even Negan himself moving forward. Killing him is the same as killing Bin Laden or any other "figure head", there's usually a replacement to take the reigns.

That's all besides the point that Negan is the "biggest" baddy of them all so far in the TWD... They're supposed to just kill him off in Episode 1 by him stepping out of a door? Kinda anti-climatic.. It's obviously going to drag on.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

To me not shooting Negan on the spot is more of an intimidation tactic by Rick & Co then anything else. Sure they coulda shot and killed Negan, but they put on a show of force and offered a truce to everyone if they turn Negan over for dead basically. It plants a certain seed of doubt behind the scenes amongst that group, and maybe even Negan himself moving forward. Killing him is the same as killing Bin Laden or any other "figure head", there's usually a replacement to take the reigns.

That's all besides the point that Negan is the "biggest" baddy of them all so far in the TWD... They're supposed to just kill him off in Episode 1 by him stepping out of a door? Kinda anti-climatic.. It's obviously going to drag on.

I think you missed the point here...

It doesn't matter about replacement baddies in line or killing him off right off the bat...

It's about the writers giving us credit for having an ounce of intelligence. Simply write Negan as having a keen interest in his own self-preservation and taking careful steps to not make himself an easy target.

It's not really difficult stuff to write:

*Negan takes cover in window behind big brick wall*

 

[Blender]

To me not shooting Negan on the spot is more of an intimidation tactic by Rick & Co then anything else. Sure they coulda shot and killed Negan, but they put on a show of force and offered a truce to everyone if they turn Negan over for dead basically. It plants a certain seed of doubt behind the scenes amongst that group, and maybe even Negan himself moving forward. Killing him is the same as killing Bin Laden or any other "figure head", there's usually a replacement to take the reigns.

That's all besides the point that Negan is the "biggest" baddy of them all so far in the TWD... They're supposed to just kill him off in Episode 1 by him stepping out of a door? Kinda anti-climatic.. It's obviously going to drag on.

This is throwing a dart and painting a bullseye around it after. It makes sense because they need Negan alive for the season isn't an excuse for how terribly written that scene was.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I think you missed the point here...

It doesn't matter about replacement baddies in line or killing him off right off the bat...

It's about the writers giving us credit for having an ounce of intelligence. Simply write Negan as having a keen interest in his own self-preservation and taking careful steps to not make himself an easy target.

It's not really difficult stuff to write:

*Negan takes cover in window behind big brick wall*

I think you and others are missing the point that this is a show about zombies, and yes they are preserving Negan for the sake of dragging out storytelling... just like countless shows before it.

This isn't Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones, people expecting that type of writing and intelligence are in for a disappointment. Contrary to popular belief yearning for the yesteryears of TWD S1-4, that wasn't a very well written show compared to its counter parts at the time either.

Honestly if people find it that bad, just don't watch.

The biggest jumping the shark moment for me with this show was Glen surviving the zombie horde by somehow slipping under the dumpster... That is 1000x worse than anything we saw in the first two episodes this season.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

watched the episode, and it wasn't as bad as the duds of last season, but it wasn't great. I was surprised to see this episode get so much praise.

 

[dogbazinho]

I hope there is a Garbage people vs Ezekiel (kingdom) episode with lots of dialogue. That will really take this shit to the next level.

 

[SensBrawler]

Well, bye Morales.

Daryl gives zero ****s.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Lol the zombies just rolling down the hill