Speculation: The Roster Building Thread - To the deadline and beyond!

[GoldiFox]

Brassard, Hoffman, Zuccarello, Zibanejad, Nyquist, and Domi would be the pool I'd look at. Seems like at least one of those could be had for a price the Canes could pay without hurting the current team.

 

[DaveG]

I have ESP.

Meh, that network's been going downhill for years now.

 

[Unsustainable]

Wonder if Edmonton is tired of PoolParty

 

[RodTheBawd]

Nope.

 

[My Special Purpose]

Islanders fans reached their goal in an hour, funding a billboard within a half mile of Barclay's Center that will read #SNOWMUSTGO

Can we do one that says #MAKEAFREAKINTRADE ??

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

#DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING!

 

[NotOpie]

why? even notopie said this guy ain't an nhler. why not foegele or zykov?

Hey, I resemble that remark....one thing that I don't understand is that if we are "concerned" about protecting the Checkers too, I don't believe you bring up their captain....which is what Brown is....of course you also don't bring up their #1 or #2 goal scorer....or their 1st line center....Oh well, am I now arguing to not bring up any Checkers??? God help us all....

#DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING!

I resemble that remark too....

 

[vorbis]

Patrick Brown was listed as out for injury in the Checkers' last game. he easily could have been sitting in a hotel room in Raleigh the whole time.

 

[The Faulker 27]

Islanders fans reached their goal in an hour, funding a billboard within a half mile of Barclay's Center that will read #SNOWMUSTGO

Can we do one that says #MAKEAFREAKINTRADE ??

"Sometimes the best course of action is a power nap."

-Ron Francis

 

[geehaad]

But Tavares is a lock to re-sign.

 

[cptjeff]

But Tavares is a lock to re-sign.

If the Isles don't decide to let teams start talking to him now in order to set up a deadline sign and trade for an absolutely massive return, Garth Snow is the dumbest GM on the planet.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

If the Isles don't decide to let teams start talking to him now in order to set up a deadline sign and trade for an absolutely massive return, Garth Snow is the dumbest GM on the planet.

It's a bit of a catch 22 though.

Garth Snow let him walk for nothing - What an idiot
Garth Snow traded our best player and the face of the franchise for futures - What an idiot.

The only good outcome for Garth is re-signing Tavares. The way things are going over there, I'm not as confident that will happen as I once was, but there is still a ways to go this season.

 

[geehaad]

I just don't see how NYI isn't looking at this situation in a very binary fashion:

1. Tavares re-signs before the TDL, we are converting futures and going full-on win-now mode.
2. Tavares won't re-sign before the TDL, we're converting everything into futures.

The roster is entirely mediocre, their prospect pool is below average, and they don't even have a "home". If they continue to limp along, they won't make the playoffs in the next 5 years.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I just don't see how NYI isn't looking at this situation in a very binary fashion:

1. Tavares re-signs before the TDL, we are converting futures and going full-on win-now mode.
2. Tavares won't re-sign before the TDL, we're converting everything into futures.

The roster is entirely mediocre, their prospect pool is below average, and they don't even have a "home". If they continue to limp along, they won't make the playoffs in the next 5 years.

Right, that's kind of what I meant by the catch 22. If he re-signs before the deadline, it's the only real saving grace for Snow. If he sells him for futures, he'll still be blasted as people are already doing that for getting to this point in the first place. Still, clearly letting him walk for nothing is the worst case scenario.

 

[MinJaBen]

Still, clearly letting him walk for nothing is the worst case scenario.

Yeah, and that is looking like what is going to happen. Snow is thinking this will be just like the Stamkos contract proceedings, but what he will get wrong is that the Islanders aren't in the same position with other stars that the lightning were in, they don't have the prospects to pay now for later to fix the team, and NY taxes are much higher than FL taxes making JT's take home pay much lower than Stammers.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Starting my gofundme shortly. #COMETOCAROLINAJT!

 

[MinJaBen]

Starting my gofundme shortly. #COMETOCAROLINAJT!

We need to beat the snot out the Islanders the next couple of games and make the playoffs to show him he can be successful here.


And have Tom open up the vault.

 

[Stickpucker]

"Sometimes the best course of action is a power nap."

-Ron Francis

He learned it from this guy

:Insert JR napping.gif:

 

[RodTheBawd]

It. Ain't. Happening.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

It. Ain't. Happening.

When it does, I'm coming out with my "I told you so" guns blazing.

 

[RodTheBawd]

I don't think there is a limit to the humiliation I'd be willing to endure if we ended up with JT.

 

[GoldiFox]

I think the only thing that saves Snow's job is re-signing JT. More accurately, losing JT would cause the firing of Snow. If the situation is unclear, I'd guess he's probably willing to sacrifice a JT TDL return on the off-chance that he has a change of heart. A situation where it seems the GMs best interest might not align with the long-term best interest of the franchise.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Plot twist. Snow and JT are playing the long con. He's trading JT at the deadline for a haul, then JT is re-signing with the Isles after 7/1.

 

[geehaad]

I think the only thing that saves Snow's job is re-signing JT. More accurately, losing JT would cause the firing of Snow.

That will only be true if ownership puts Snow in a position to sign JT and he doesn't make it happen. What matters is how ownership views the situation, and the situation isn't as opaque to them as it is to the fans. Also, over the course of negotiations with JT, they may come to find themselves quite peeved with JT, which may cause them to see Snow in an even more favorable light.

 

[GoldiFox]

That will only be true if ownership puts Snow in a position to sign JT and he doesn't make it happen. What matters is how ownership views the situation, and the situation isn't as opaque to them as it is to the fans. Also, over the course of negotiations with JT, they may come to find themselves quite peeved with JT, which may cause them to see Snow in an even more favorable light.

I am operating under the assumption that a huge offer is already available. I suppose it's not impossible for an ownership group to let a top-10 player walk without offering a competitive deal. Jeter ousted Stanton after he had just won the MVP. I don't see the point in owning a sports franchise if you can't offer your homegrown Superstars what they need to stay.

In any case, that scenario would be good for the Canes chances.