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[M2Beezy]

Pettersson
Gaudette
Demko
Lind
Dahlen
Lockwood
Diepietro

 

[Spectrefire]

If you told me Pettersson would reach 25 points by the end of his first SHL season, I would've been ecstatic. He might hit that marker by the end of Novemeber.

 

[sting101]

Quite a run for our top prospects so far this year.

On Pace:------------------- GP G A PTS
F
Brock Boeser----- NHL-----79 20 68 88
Jake Virtanen---- NHL-----81 16 08 24
Nikolay Goldobin AHL-----76 44 72 116
Elias Pettersson---SEL -----52 20 40 60
Jonathon Dahlen--ALV-----45 30 30 60
Adam Gaudette---NCAA---38 33 38 71
Kole Lind----------CHL-------70 40 75 115
D
Olli Juolevi--------FIN-------48 21 14 35
Nikita Tryamkin--KHL------60 09 23 32
G
Thatcher Demko--AHL-----54 43w 11l 11so .950spt

small samples but wow!

 

[M2Beezy]

Quite a run for our top prospects so far this year.

On Pace:------------------- GP G A PTS
F
Brock Boeser----- NHL-----79 20 68 88
Jake Virtanen---- NHL-----81 16 08 24
Nikolay Goldobin AHL-----76 44 72 116
Elias Pettersson---SEL -----52 20 40 60
Jonathon Dahlen--ALV-----45 30 30 60
Adam Gaudette---NCAA---38 33 38 71
Kole Lind----------CHL-------70 40 75 115
D
Olli Juolevi--------FIN-------48 21 14 35
Nikita Tryamkin--KHL------60 09 23 32
G
Thatcher Demko--AHL-----54 43w 11l 11so .950spt

small samples but wow!

Love it

 

[Vman]

Quite a run for our top prospects so far this year.

On Pace:------------------- GP G A PTS

G
Thatcher Demko--AHL-----54 43w 11l 11so .950spt

small samples but wow!

You forgot Michael Dipietro!

 

[Red]

End of October stats. Included anyone born in '93 or later, minimum 3 games.

Juniors

Name	Pos	Born	League	Team	GP	G	A	Pts	P/GP
Brassard, Matt	D	'98	OHL	Oshawa	15	0	6	6	0.40
Candella, Cole	D	'98	OHL	Sudbury	16	2	9	11	0.69
Gadjovich, Jonah	W	'98	OHL	Owen Sound	8	5	4	9	1.13
Gaudette, Adam	C	'96	NCAA	Northeastern	7	6	7	13	1.86
Lind, Kole	W	'98	WHL	Kelowna	14	8	15	23	1.64
Lockwood, William	W	'98	NCAA	Michigan	6	2	2	4	0.67
McKenzie, Brett	C	'97	OHL	North Bay	9	2	2	4	0.44
Stukel, Jakob	W	'97	WHL	Calgary	15	6	4	10	0.67

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

European Leagues

Name	Pos	Born	League	Team	GP	G	A	Pts	P/GP
Abols, Rodrigo	C	'96	SHL	Orebro	12	0	0	0	0.00
Dahlen, Jonathan	W	'97	Swe-1	Timra	6	4	4	8	1.33
Gunnarsson, Kristoffer	D	'97	SHL	Frolunda	13	0	0	0	0.00
Jasek, Lukas	W	'97	Czech	Liberec	17	3	3	6	0.35
Juolevi, Olli	D	'98	Liiga	TPS Turku	7	3	2	5	0.71
Palmu, Petrus	W	'97	Liiga	TPS Turku	19	6	6	12	0.63
Pettersson, Elias	C	'98	SHL	Vaxjo	13	5	10	15	1.15
Tryamkin, Nikita	D	'94	KHL	Yekaterinburg	26	4	10	14	0.54
Zhukenov, Dmitry	C	'97	KHL	Omsk	8	1	0	1	0.13

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

AHL

Name	Pos	Born	League	Team	GP	G	A	Pts	P/GP
Boucher, Reid	W	'93	AHL	Utica	7	3	6	9	1.29
Brisebois, Guillaume	D	'97	AHL	Utica	6	1	0	1	0.17
Carcone, Michael	W	'96	AHL	Utica	5	0	0	0	0.00
Chatfield, Jalen	D	'96	AHL	Utica	7	0	0	0	0.00
Goldobin, Nikolay	W	'95	AHL	Utica	7	4	6	10	1.43
Labate, Joseph	W	'93	AHL	Utica	7	2	1	3	0.43
Laplante, Yan-Pavel	W	'95	AHL	Utica	3	0	1	1	0.33
McEneny, Evan	D	'94	AHL	Utica	6	1	3	4	0.67
Molino, Griffen	W	'94	AHL	Utica	5	0	0	0	0.00
Sautner, Ashton	D	'94	AHL	Utica	7	0	0	0	0.00
Subban, Jordan	D	'95	AHL	Utica	5	0	1	1	0.20

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

ECHL

Name	Pos	Born	League	Team	GP	G	A	Pts	P/GP
Cederholm, Anton	D	'95	ECHL	Kalamazoo	5	0	0	0	0.00
Stewart, Mackenzie	D	'95	ECHL	Kalamazoo	5	0	2	2	0.40

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

Goalies

Name	Pos	Born	League	Team	GP	W	L	OTL	SO	GAA	Save %
Demko, Thatcher	G	'95	AHL	Utica	5	4	1	0	1	1.61	0.950
DiPietro, Michael	G	'99	OHL	Windsor	15	9	4	0	1	2.23	0.930

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[Scygen]

Jordan Subban is all but done

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Wed Nov 1

Europe

Vita Hasten 1 Timra 2
Dahlen 0 points

AHL

Rochester 4 Utica 3 (SO)
Demko 29 saves on 32 shots (6 saves on 8 shots in SO)

Michael Chaput (2) ASST: Darren Archibald (2), Reid Boucher (7) (PP)
Darren Archibald (2) ASST: Evan McEneny (4), Alexis D'Aoust (2)
Alexis D'Aoust (2) ASST: Wacey Hamilton (3), Darren Archibald (3)

Shootout:
Nikolay Goldobin No Goal
Darren Archibald No Goal
Reid Boucher Goal
Brendan Gaunce No Goal
Zack MacEwen No Goal
Evan McEneny No Goal
Alexis D'Aoust No Goal
Michael Chaput No Goal

ECHL

Cincinnati 4 Kalamazoo 3
Cederholm 0 points, +1
Mohnihan 0 points, -1
Irving 0 points, -3
Stewart 0 points, -2
Garteig was the back-up

Wow - Jesse Schultz - yes, that Jesse Schultz - is playing for Cincinnati!

OHL

Sudbury 4 Sault Ste. Marie 5 (OT)
Candella 1 assist, even

WHL

Kelowna 3 Tri-City 4 (OT)
Lind 1 goal (9th), 1 assist, +1 (selected 2nd star)

S_C

 

[jigsaw99]

Tryamkin has pretty good numbers. Really wish we have him this season. f*** Willie D.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

When do own Tryamkins rights until and what does his khl contract look like. Term? Does it have an out?

 

[FroshaugFan2]

When do own Tryamkins rights until and what does his khl contract look like. Term? Does it have an out?

The Canucks hold his rights until July 1st 2022. That's when he become a UFA as he'll be 27.

His contract expires April 30th 2020. No out clause has been reported. He would have to buy out his own contract to leave the KHL early.

 

[Catamarca Livin]

The Canucks hold his rights until July 1st 2022. That's when he become a UFA as he'll be 27.

His contract expires April 30th 2020. No out clause has been reported. He would have to buy out his own contract to leave the KHL early.

This is great news in his thread it said we lose his rights the summer his khl contract expires. I have no idea hope you are right as at the very least his rights are an asset. I still believe he will be a star.

 

[Catamarca Livin]

The Canucks hold his rights until July 1st 2022. That's when he become a UFA as he'll be 27.

His contract expires April 30th 2020. No out clause has been reported. He would have to buy out his own contract to leave the KHL early.

Can you read the Tryamkin thread and hopefully Hf boards can get clarity on his canuck rights situation. Maybe get the media involved though the Mcenery situation was messed up by the best of the media while the Canucks knew.

 

[LeftCoast]

The Canucks hold his rights until July 1st 2022. That's when he become a UFA as he'll be 27.

His contract expires April 30th 2020. No out clause has been reported. He would have to buy out his own contract to leave the KHL early.

He hasn't played 80 games in the NHL (79), has over 3 pro seasons accrued and is 25 when his KHL contract is up. I think that means he could elect for Group 6 free agency.

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Thu Nov 2

NCAA

Ferris State 2 Michigan 7
Lockwood 1 goal (3rd), 1 assist, +1

OHL

Hamilton 1 Windsor 4
DiPietro 27 saves on 28 shots (selected 2nd star)

S_C

 

[Catamarca Livin]

See this thread got off track. So right now the 79 games plays lets him declare FA after Khl contract expires. Seems strange a games play rule comes into affect when it is the player who limited his nhl games not the team. I am hopeful we are missing a clause in this rule.
It is important as he will come back some day to Nhl hope it is with us. Out of all the Benning moves the drafting of Tryamkin was the best and the losing him was the worst. I say trade Gudbranson then trade Edler in offseason buy back Tryamkins contract. Hope OJ improves but team is almost as good as this year on d. People are arguing if Biega is better tha Gudbranson. Tryamkin right now is better than both with more potential than Tanev.

 

[FroshaugFan2]

He hasn't played 80 games in the NHL (79), has over 3 pro seasons accrued and is 25 when his KHL contract is up. I think that means he could elect for Group 6 free agency.

He has only had two "professional seasons". A player must be under NHL contract to accrue professional seasons.

 

[LeftCoast]

He has only had two "professional seasons". A player must be under NHL contract to accrue professional seasons.

For the purpose of determining Group 6 UFAs professional experience, for players over 20 years of age includes 1 game played in a season ANY pro league beyond Junior or Collegiate. He will be a Group 6 UFA when his KHL contract expires.

The whole purpose of Group 6 is to allow players like Tryamkin, who were drafted, but not under NHL contracts and playing in other professional leagues (usually Europe) to achieve NHL free agency without having to wait until 27 years of age. If a team can't sign an player, they shouldn't be able to hold onto his rights forever.

 

[FroshaugFan2]

For the purpose of determining Group 6 UFAs professional experience, for players over 20 years of age includes 1 game played in a season ANY pro league beyond Junior or Collegiate. He will be a Group 6 UFA when his KHL contract expires.

Where did you get that from? In the CBA they define professional games as needing to be under a NHL SPC. If that isn't the case then how come Rodin wasn't a Group 6 UFA?

Also Benning thinks that the Canucks hold his rights until 2022.

 

[Tables of Stats]

There is also no transfer agreementioned with Russia which, IIRC, changes things somewhat.

 

[opendoor]

For the purpose of determining Group 6 UFAs professional experience, for players over 20 years of age includes 1 game played in a season ANY pro league beyond Junior or Collegiate. He will be a Group 6 UFA when his KHL contract expires.

No, the CBA is pretty clear that those 3 "professional seasons" must occur while under an NHL contract:

(c) Group 6 Free Agents

(i)
Means any Player who is age 25 or older who has completed three (3) or
more professional seasons, whose SPC has expired and: (i) in the case of a
Player other than a goaltender, has played less than 80 NHL Games, or (ii)
in the case of a goaltender, has played less than 28 NHL Games (for the
purpose of this definition, a goaltender must have played a minimum of
thirty (30) minutes in an NHL Game to register a game played). For the
purposes of the foregoing, the term professional season shall: (A) for a
Player aged 18 or 19, mean any season in which such Player plays in
eleven (11) or more Professional Games (including NHL Regular Season
and Playoff Games, minor league regular season and playoff games, and
games played in any European professional league, while under an SPC),
and (B) for a Player aged 20 or older, mean any season in which such
Player plays in one or more Professional Games (including NHL Regular
Season and Playoff Games, minor league regular season and playoff
games, and games played in any European professional league, while
under an SPC).

The whole purpose of Group 6 is to allow players like Tryamkin, who were drafted, but not under NHL contracts and playing in other professional leagues (usually Europe) to achieve NHL free agency without having to wait until 27 years of age. If a team can't sign an player, they shouldn't be able to hold onto his rights forever.

They don't hold his rights forever. They held his rights for 4 years from the draft, and once he agreed to an ELC they got his rights until he was 27.

 

[tyhee]

No, the CBA is pretty clear that those 3 "professional seasons" must occur while under an NHL contract: ..............

Sorry to have started this discussion.

I agree with you. On re-reading Article 10.1 of the CBA, BFG won't be an NHL UFA until 2022.

Group 3-7 accrued seasons (those must NHL seasons) or age 27 as of June 30 at the end of a league year. He was born in August, 1994, so won't become a Group 3 UFA until the June 30 following August, 2021-which means June 30, 2022.

Group 5-he won't have 10 professional seasons under a SPC before June 30, 2022.

Group 6-as you say, requires the seasons be under a SPC, and he'll only have 2 of those. He'd need 3 to be a group 6 UFA.

Thanks for pointing this out, and to LeftCoast for pointing out the game requirement for a professional season.

 

[Southern_Canuck]

Fri Nov 3

Europe

Sport 4 TPS 3
Palmu 0 points
Juolevi 1 assist

Vogle 3 Vaxjo 4
Pettersson 1 goal (6th), 1 assist

Timra 3 IK Pantern 2 (OT)
Dahlen 1 goal (5th)

AHL

Binghamton 2 Utica 1
Demko 18 saves on 20 shots

Evan McEneny (2) ASST: Philip Holm (6), Nikolay Goldobin (7)

NCAA

Ferris State 3 Michigan 2 (OT)
Lockwood 0 points, -1

OHL

Oshawa 0 Erie 8
Brassard 0 points, -1

North Bay 5 Flint 1
McKenzie 0 points, +1

Owen Sound 5 Mississauga 4 (SO)
Gadjovich did not play

Niagara 5 Sudbury 6 (OT)
Candella 1 assist, +1

WHL

Calgary 6 Lethbridge 3
Stukel 0 points, +1

Kelowna 4 Victoria 2
Lind 2 assists, -1

S_C

 

[David Bruce Banner]

So, is Gadjovich still injured or injured again?