The payroll that teams should have

[C-Saku Koivu MTL]

***NOTE: I really did not know where to post this but since it's about salary and cap, I tought it coul;d ok to post it here, if not sorry and modorateur will take care of it. Again sorry if it's wrong.

I would like for respective teams fan to make the list of their 20 players regular roster and with the salary they should have from your own opinion. The list should contain the players from last year season, so you count in the UFA from your team.(ex: Niedermayer should be with NJ etc...)altough, you can count in the already acquide players(bonk count with MTL).

FOR MONTREAL

Zednik- 2mil$
Koivu- 3mil$
Kovalev- 4.2mil$
Dagenais- 0.5mil$
Ribeiro- 1.5mil$
Ryder- 1.4mil$
Bulis- 1.1mil$
Bonk- 2.2mil$
Sundstrom- 0.8mil$
Begin- 0.6mil$
Dowd- 0.6mil$
Ward- 0.5mil$
Souray- 2.4mil$
Markov- 2.2mil$
Brisebois- 2mil$
Rivet- 1.3mil$
Komisarek- 0.7mil$
Bouillon- 0.5mil$
Theoodore- 4.5mil$
Huet- 0.6mil$

Montreal Canadiens payroll should be 32.6mil$.

I don't think alot of teams will be over 40mil$ witch is pretty much where the cap should be IMO.

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[FLYLine27*]

Ill play:

For NYR:


Blair Betts .6 million
Bobby Holik 4 Million
Eric Lindros 3 Million
Jamie Lundmark 1 Million
Mark Messier 2.5 Million
Michael Nylander 2.2 Million

Jan Hlavac 1.3 Million
Josh Green .6 Million
Jaromir Jagr 6 Million
Sandy McCarthy .85 Million
Jed Ortmeyer .7 Million


Joel Bouchard .65 Million
Darius Kasparaitis 3 Million
Boris Mironov 1.8 Million
Tom Poti 2 Million
Dale Purinton .5 Million
Karel Rachunek 1.2 Million
Fedor Tyutin 1 Million


Mike Dunham 2.0 Million
Kevin Weekes 1.5 Million

36.4 Million Bucks

 

[Drury_Sakic]

For Colorado

Forsberg 6 million
Sakic 6 million
Blake 5.5 million
Foote 3.5 million
Tanguay 3 million
Hejduk 4.5 million
Konowalchuk 1.8 million
Liles .8 million
Gratton 1.5 million
Hinote .8 million
Saur .5 million
Boughner 1.5 million
Hahl .8 million
Skrastins 1.2 million
Vaanannen .9 million
McLean .5 million
Laaksonen 1 million
Laperriere 1 million
Hendrickson .7 million

Aebischer 2 million
Savue/Bujda .5 million

43.2 million

 

[nyrmessier011]

Ill play:

For NYR:


Blair Betts .6 million
Bobby Holik 4 Million
Eric Lindros 3 Million
Jamie Lundmark 1 Million
Mark Messier 2.5 Million
Michael Nylander 2.2 Million

Jan Hlavac 1.3 Million
Josh Green .6 Million
Jaromir Jagr 6 Million
Sandy McCarthy .85 Million
Jed Ortmeyer .7 Million


Joel Bouchard .65 Million
Darius Kasparaitis 3 Million
Boris Mironov 1.8 Million
Tom Poti 2 Million
Dale Purinton .5 Million
Karel Rachunek 1.2 Million
Fedor Tyutin 1 Million


Mike Dunham 2.0 Million
Kevin Weekes 1.5 Million

36.4 Million Bucks

No way Jagr should make $6M and Purinton should have to pay us to keep him in the NHL.

 

[Burnaby_Joe*]

Purinton should have to pay us to keep him in the NHL.

 

[WVP]

No way Jagr should make $6M and Purinton should have to pay us to keep him in the NHL.

I agree about Purinton. I disagree with Holik at 4 million. If Jagr's playing to his potential he's still worth 6 million.

 

[Johnnybegood13]

Calgary:

Jarome Iginla........ 5m
Daymond Langkow. 2m
Martin Gelinas....... 1.2m
Steven Reinprecht. 1.4m
Marcus Nilson....... 1m
Shean Donovan..... 1m
Jordan Leopold...... 1m
Robyn Regehr....... 1.4m
Ville Nieminen....... 800k
Chris Simon.......... 1.2m
Stephane Yelle..... 1.3m
Jason Wiemer....... 1m
Chris Clark........... 900k
Matthew Lombardi. 850k
Steve Montador.... 700k
Andrew Ference.... 700k
Mike Commodore.... 650k
Chuck Kobasew..... 900k
Toni Lydman......... 1.1m
Rhett Warrener..... 1.4m
Dion Phaneuf........ 900k
Miikka Kiprusoff..... 2.2m
Brent Krahn.......... 700k

Total 29.3m

 

[Kritter471]

For the 2003-2004 Stars, a lot of the guys will be gone

Turco - $3 million
Smith/Ellis/Backup Dude - $500,000

Modano - $6 million (say what you want, but he's the face of the franchise and undoubtedly their most talented player)
Morrow - $3 million
Lehtinen -$4 million
Guerin - $3 million (can't fault him for a freaky injury two years ago)
Arnott - $2 million
Young - $500,000
Downey - $500,000
Turgeon - $1.5 million
Kapanen - $750,000
Ott - $600,000
DiMaio - $800,000
Barnes - $900,000

Zubov - $4 million
Boucher - $2 million
Matvichuk (with Devils) - $1 million
Klemm - $1 million
Sweeney - $800,000
Numminen - $1 million

$36.85 million

But, with the movement that will happen (Young, Matvichuckles, Sweeney, some center or three out; Daley, Miettinen, Eriskine (blergh), Lessard? in), I can see it jumping to about $40 million easy.

Plus, it isn't really a fair case to make right now because you can't just void the contracts the guys have now, nor can you take them out of the picture with a salary cap. They're still going to be there.

 

[FLYLine27*]

No way Jagr should make $6M and Purinton should have to pay us to keep him in the NHL.

Jagr should get top dollar still in the post CBA world. But 6 million is it. No player should make more then that and only the few "superstars" in the league should get that pay.

I agree though Purinton should pay US to have him play in the NHL.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

But I thought that all the above teams and at least 4 or 5 others were going to be decimated by the new CBA, nothing more than glorified AHL teams. That is what I keep hearing in certain other threads in any event.

 

[Gus Fring]

for ottawa i would go with


2 Pothier, Brian 1M
3 Chara, Zdeno 4M
4 Phillips, Chris 2M
5 de Vries, Greg 2M
6 Redden, Wade 4M
9 Havlat, Martin 2M
11 Alfredsson, Daniel 4M
12 Fisher, Mike 1M
15 Schaefer, Peter 1M
18 Hossa, Marian R 4M
19 Spezza, Jason C 1M
20 Vermette, Antoine .8M
21 Smolinski, Bryan 1.5M
24 Volchenkov, Anton 1M
25 Neil, Chris .8M
26 Varada, Vaclav L 1.5M
28 White, Todd C 1M
33 Langfeld, Josh R .9M
49 Kelly, Chris .5M
1 Emery, Ray .8M
31 Prusek, Martin 1.5M
39 Hasek, Dominik 2M


It adds up 2 35M maybe some of you disagree with me, oh well im not an expert I just tought it would be fun to try...

 

[BLONG7]

I hope some of the NHL GM's are reading this thread, and take notice...nice job guys on the $$$...

 

[norrisnick]

Barring any trades or outside UFA signings. Plus factoring in a 24% rollback, otherwise this gets silly at $55.1m and yes decimation would begin. The math is rounded to one decimal place and FAs/rookies (Yzerman, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Kronwall, Hudler, Dandenault, Grigorenko, MacDonald) are estimated.

EDIT - forgot the task at hand. bolded figures are what I think the players should be paid. Obviously the estimated salaries would be that to begin with.

Zetterberg ($2m/$2m) - Datsyuk ($2m/$2m) - Shanahan ($2.3m/$2.3m) = $6.3m/$6.3m
Holmstrom ($1.4m/$1.4m) - Lang ($3.8m/$3m) - Whitney ($2.7m/$1.5m) = $7.9m/$5.9m
Maltby ($1.4m/$1.4m) - Draper ($2.1m/$1.8m) - Yzerman ($3m/$3m) = $6.5m/$6.2m
McCarty ($1.7m/$.7m) - Hudler ($.8m/$.8m) - Grigorenko ($.6m/$.6m) = $3.1m/$2.1m

Lidstrom ($7.6m/$6m) - Fischer ($1.3m/$1.3m) = $8.9m/$7.3m
Hatcher ($4.9m/$3.5m) - Kronwall ($1m/$1m) = $5.9m/$4.5,
Dandenault ($1.2m/$.8m) - Rivers ($.3m/$.5m) = $1.5m/$1.3m

Legace ($1.2m/$1.5m) - MacDonald ($.6m/$.6m) = $1.8m/$2.1m

Total = $41.9m/$35.7m

I'd really like to see the Wings dispatch of Whitney and McCarty in exchange for a couple guys from GR. That and I've mentioned trading a center (Lang if possible if not Datsyuk) for a young talented winger elsewhere.

 

[norrisnick]

But I thought that all the above teams and at least 4 or 5 others were going to be decimated by the new CBA, nothing more than glorified AHL teams. That is what I keep hearing in certain other threads in any event.

It all depends on how the new CBA unfolds with regards to old contracts and RFAs. Without a rollback or with a ridiculously low cap the Wings could very well be screwed out of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, and Grigorenko. 4 pivotal parts of their future core because none of them are under contract while older players are signed to the tune of $42M. If they lose the rights to those players or are unable to sign them due to new financial restraints the Wings hit rock bottom and quickly. 2-3 years tops as they'll have no one to build around as guys like Lidstrom, Draper, Maltby age and Yzerman, Shanahan and Chelios retire.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

You would have to add more money to all of these payrolls if you go by what the NHL wants, which is all farm players and all insurance money and all bonuses added to the cap. As im sure lots of these players would be entitled to some sort of bonus that some of them will acquire, every team has a good amount of farm team players, and insurance money would be added.

 

[PecaFan]

Without a rollback or with a ridiculously low cap the Wings could very well be screwed out of Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, and Grigorenko. 4 pivotal parts of their future core because none of them are under contract while older players are signed to the tune of $42M.

Screwed? Hardly. If Detroit "loses" anyone, it will because of decisions *they* made. They chose to sign old vets to long term contracts with a new CBA on the horizon, they choose to keep various players, and let others go, etc.

 

[norrisnick]

Screwed? Hardly. If Detroit "loses" anyone, it will because of decisions *they* made. They chose to sign old vets to long term contracts with a new CBA on the horizon, they choose to keep various players, and let others go, etc.

They have let no one go. They hold the rights to their young players, a new system may make it unable for them to be re-signed. How can you punish a team for fully operating within the rules of the previous CBA, by making it financially unable to retain their RFAs under a new one? It'd be like lowering the speed limit and handing out tickets retroactively to people that were obeying the previous limit.

I don't care how much warning Detroit may have had, they were operating under the rules at the time and trying to remain competitive. I have much more respect for that than teams holding firesales simply to cut payroll and increase their draft chances. This is supposed to be a competitive league is it not?