The official off-season thread

[Kevin27NYI]

I think Ladd's best role on the team would be similar to what Chris Kunitz's role last year for the Pens and this year for the Lightning is. A bottom six forward who is dependable defensively, can still play physical if you don't overtax him, can chip in with 10 or so goals, and who can be slotted in the top six in emergency moments.

Ladd's biggest issue is his cap hit. So far, it hasn't been prohibitive. But, him making about half what he does would probably make it easier to swallow him being in a smaller role.

But he needs to do the bolded, that's where my issue is with him because I actually like him (well relative to most here) because when he's engaged he's actually an asset on the ice. But he floats too much. I guess the injuries just shot him dead but maybe with 10-12 minutes he could throw a few hits? Idk, I love him when he's mad.

 

[BelovedIsles]

I think Ladd's best role on the team would be similar to what Chris Kunitz's role last year for the Pens and this year for the Lightning is. A bottom six forward who is dependable defensively, can still play physical if you don't overtax him, can chip in with 10 or so goals, and who can be slotted in the top six in emergency moments.

Ladd's biggest issue is his cap hit. So far, it hasn't been prohibitive. But, him making about half what he does would probably make it easier to swallow him being in a smaller role.

Agreed. At 2.5 mil. in a bottom 6 role I like Ladd.

 

[periferal]

Agreed. At 2.5 mil. in a bottom 6 role I like Ladd.

For free and in a janitorial role I like snow.


#Reality

 

[BelovedIsles]

For free and in a janitorial role I like snow.


#Reality

I hear Belmont will have ‘world class’ bathrooms.

 

[periferal]

I hear Belmont will have ‘world class’ bathrooms.

It's going to need to for all the b*******t Ledecky keeps spewing.

 

[danteipp]

I think Ladd's best role on the team would be similar to what Chris Kunitz's role last year for the Pens and this year for the Lightning is. A bottom six forward who is dependable defensively, can still play physical if you don't overtax him, can chip in with 10 or so goals, and who can be slotted in the top six in emergency moments.

Ladd's biggest issue is his cap hit. So far, it hasn't been prohibitive. But, him making about half what he does would probably make it easier to swallow him being in a smaller role.

I think that is definitely how he would be best utilized at this point in his career. It is also why I would welcome back Kulemin on a cheap, one-year contract. Between Ladd, Kulemin, Cizikas and Clutter (because they aren't going anywhere based on their current production vs. contacts) and say Johnston, that is 5/6 of a decent bottom six.

From there I think you move Nelson, perhaps in a package deal, for a responsible, checking 3C. Unless of course they want to try Bailey at center, if say Bellows or Ho-Sang force their way into the top six. I would prefer to keep Beauvillier in the top six.

But it also hinges on if a competent defensive coach and system are brought in. Otherwise we can keep talking about players and personnel changes until the cows come home but nothing will materially change.

 

[doublechili]

It's going to need to for all the b*******t Ledecky keeps spewing.

Since Ledecky is one billion percent focused on Belmont Park, I think that would be horse**** he'd be spewing.

 

[Islesfan22]

Holtby seems to have regained his confidence.

 

[BarBeauWahlDobLok]

Maybe in 2020 we give our #1 pick to Seattle to take Andrew Ladd.

 

[danteipp]

Maybe in 2020 we give our #1 pick to Seattle to take Andrew Ladd.

And maybe we can also trade Pulock, on a team-friendly deal, for more draft picks then opt not to replace him with a viable player at the same time. Really do it up Snow-job style!

(Just to be clear, I actually like the trade return for Hamonic, I just didn't like relying on Pulock, Pelech, Mayfield and Toews, then Aho, to fill out 3-4 spots on the defensive depth chart.)

 

[CREW99AW]

Maybe in 2020 we give our #1 pick to Seattle to take Andrew Ladd.

Maybe with both the league and union able to opt out of the CBA in 2019, we get another round of amnesty buyouts and are finally rid of Ladd.

Not in favor of pissing away 1st rounders to correct Snow's mistakes.

 

[BarBeauWahlDobLok]

Maybe with both the league and union able to opt out of the CBA in 2019, we get another round of amnesty buyouts and are finally rid of Ladd.

Not in favor of pissing away 1st rounders to correct Snow's mistakes.

I agree. And this, among other things, is what infuriates me about snow. He's a mistake corrector, not a shrewd manager.

 

[Konk]

And maybe we can also trade Pulock, on a team-friendly deal, for more draft picks then opt not to replace him with a viable player at the same time. Really do it up Snow-job style!

(Just to be clear, I actually like the trade return for Hamonic, I just didn't like relying on Pulock, Pelech, Mayfield and Toews, then Aho, to fill out 3-4 spots on the defensive depth chart.)

SNOWJOB SNOWJOB! CHOO CHOO

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Actually, I'd watch real closely to see if there's a deal to be had with EDM regarding Leddy.

I wouldn't suggest that without fully assuming the Snow-Chiarelli-steal would strike again...

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

Mentioned it other threads, but here are 5 young, yet overaged Euro-players I wouldn't mind seeing the Isles add to their system.

Lawrence Pilut - Elite Prospects
Kristians Rubins - Elite Prospects
Dominik Kubalík - Elite Prospects
Dominik Kahun - Elite Prospects
Dominic Zwerger - Elite Prospects

 

[Instant]

Mentioned it other threads, but here are 5 young, yet overaged Euro-players I wouldn't mind seeing the Isles add to their system.

Lawrence Pilut - Elite Prospects
Kristians Rubins - Elite Prospects
Dominik Kubalík - Elite Prospects
Dominik Kahun - Elite Prospects
Dominic Zwerger - Elite Prospects

I think Kahun is signed somewhere. Pilut is fine, but I'd like to see someone a bit bigger. The rest is kinda meh.

 

[Chapin Landvogt]

I think Kahun is signed somewhere. Pilut is fine, but I'd like to see someone a bit bigger. The rest is kinda meh.

Indeed, you're right. Kahun just signed with Chicago about a week ago.

 

[doublechili]

Mentioned it other threads, but here are 5 young, yet overaged Euro-players I wouldn't mind seeing the Isles add to their system.

Lawrence Pilut - Elite Prospects
Kristians Rubins - Elite Prospects
Dominik Kubalík - Elite Prospects
Dominik Kahun - Elite Prospects
Dominic Zwerger - Elite Prospects

I don't trust Snow to sign the right Dominik/Dominic.

 

[PK Cronin]

I don't trust Snow to sign the right Dominik/Dominic.

Sign them both. Do it for Butch!

 

[periferal]

 

[NewYorkIsles]

Garth Snow speaking for the organization on the passing of Torrey is all you need to know to show you that he is staying

 

[doublechili]

Garth Snow speaking for the organization on the passing of Torrey is all you need to know to show you that he is staying

If they hire a new GM and Snow gets moved upstairs, making this kind of statement is exactly the kind of thing that he'd be doing to "earn" his salary.

And the beauty is that he doesn't even have to leave the house to do that kind of thing. He can just sit around in sweats watching TV and eating hunks of cheese like they're an apple.

 

[YearlyLottery]

If they hire a new GM and Snow gets moved upstairs, making this kind of statement is exactly the kind of thing that he'd be doing to "earn" his salary.

And the beauty is that he doesn't even have to leave the house to do that kind of thing. He can just sit around in sweats watching TV and eating hunks of cheese like they're an apple.

So what he was doing right before the press conference at the end of the season?

 

[doublechili]

So what he was doing right before the press conference at the end of the season?

Yeah, pretty much.

 

[Lame Lambert]

We’re safe for another 2 years