GDT: The Drive for Five: Islanders @ Devils, 7 PM, MSG+

[JimEIV]

Yeah agreed...you can absolutely credit other guys like Boyle for his first few weeks, Nico for going above and beyond expectations as an 18-year old rookie, Bratt for his first two months, Coleman for his improvement, Palm for an underrated impact, KK for stablizing our goaltending, Vat for giving our D a lifeline, etc. Obviously you need more than one player in a literal sense to win but in terms of day-in day-out impact relative to anyone else Hall's's so above and beyond anyone else on the team being consistently elite and someone other teams have to pay attention to, also giving more space to the role players to do their thing.



And you don't think having Hall and a real first line helps all that depth be able to slot in where they're supposed to and find more space against lesser competition? Having depth players play above their level because we had no top-end guys was one of the big issues the last few years.

I absolutely do think it helps. Why do you guys always twist the point...we went from Hall isn't doing alone to Hall doesn't help in a drop of a hat..

The point is it is a team effort. And the symmetry is the reason for both parts of the success...but to the original point, that is the exact opposite of 1 man carrying the team.

 

[The 29th Pick]

What does that mean?

per Google:
Girls can have their Monday's and Wine Wednesday's, hell we'll even give em the whole work week. But Saturday's...now those are for the boys

 

[The Wumpus]

I've probably watched this 25 times. Just a classically beautiful hockey goal.

 

[Oneiro]

I don't think it's just the 40 pt spread between him and Nico. It's when he's scoring. Tying the game. GWG.

At so many points, a jaded fan could say, "Oh f***, here we go again." And at precisely that moment, Hall pushes back. Big moment player.

It's happened enough times to move beyond the anecdotal and into being an established thing that he's done for the team.

 

[The 29th Pick]

I've probably watched this 25 times. Just a classically beautiful hockey goal.

there arent a lot of players in the league that can do that, luckily we got one of them !

 

[Patrik26]

Honest to god he's been a huge difference down the stretch, a real x-factor. Hall's been Hall all year and KK's been strong the last several weeks but playing all these close games with Coleman stepping up as he has, is big-time.

Coleman couldn't put the puck in the ocean the first half of the season. The last two months - different story. HUGE.

 

[Bologna 1]

Intrigued by the Grabner-Zacha-Wood line that was together for a good chunk of the second half last night. Had some nice looks and so much speed. Curious to see if they get further time together. Wouldn't hate it at all.

 

[Patrik26]

I've probably watched this 25 times. Just a classically beautiful hockey goal.

Traffic cones galore, starting with Anders Lee.

 

[NJDevs26]

Coleman couldn't put the puck in the ocean the first half of the season. The last two months - different story. HUGE.

Two goals and two assists in his first 27 games this year, following one goal and one assist in his first 23 games last year. His first 50 NHL games he had exactly 6 points on 3 goals. His steady improvement this year offensively has been amazing.

 

[JimEIV]

Coleman couldn't put the puck in the ocean the first half of the season. The last two months - different story. HUGE.

He's 6th on the team in ES goals now.

It's an interesting list (Even Strength Goals).

Hall 24
Hischier 17
Wood 14
Palmieri 13
Noesen 13
Coleman 10
Gibbons 9
Severson 9
Zajac 8
Boyle 8
Bratt 8

 

[Blender]

He's 6th on the team in ES goals now.

It's an interesting list (Even Strength Goals).

Hall 24
Hischier 17
Wood 14
Palmieri 13
Noesen 13
Coleman 10
Gibbons 9
Severson 9
Zajac 8
Boyle 8
Bratt 8

That Nico though.

 

[JimEIV]

That Nico though.

I think what he has done is being underestimated around the league.

 

[Blender]

I think what he has done is being underestimated around the league.

Without a doubt. 5on5 points is a much better predictor of future success than power play points, and he's having one of the best seasons at 5on5 of any D+1 rookie in recent history.

 

[SeidoN]

I really feel like we should find a RW for Hall and Hischier

preferable one beginning with H so i can have my Triple H line

D needs addressed too tho hmm

 

[Zippy316]

Coleman couldn't put the puck in the ocean the first half of the season. The last two months - different story. HUGE.

Bottom six scoring has been timely all year.

First it was all Gibbons, then Boyle stepped up, then Noesen, Hall carried the team in January and into February, and then Coleman stepped up. Wood has been pretty consistent throughout as well.

 

[JimEIV]

I really feel like we should find a RW for Hall and Hischier

preferable one beginning with H so i can have my Triple H line

D needs addressed too tho hmm

We already have him.

Joey Anderson.

 

[Zippy316]

I really feel like we should find a RW for Hall and Hischier

preferable one beginning with H so i can have my Triple H line

D needs addressed too tho hmm

I still think Shero is adding another top six forward this off-season.

Depending on the deal, I wouldn't mind adding Nash, Perron, or Neal to fill out the top six. All those guys are still quality second line wingers that should be able to produce ~50 points in our top six.

 

[BahlDeep]

Wanting to give credit to the team for a 51 goal boost in offense as opposed to individual is an act?

If I have an act, it's a disdain for lazy stupid narratives that are easily debunked with just a glance of the stat page.

Well Hall has 36 more points then last year, so he is contributing a lot on that up swing of offense we are having this year

 

[JimEIV]

Without a doubt. 5on5 points is a much better predictor of future success than power play points, and he's having one of the best seasons at 5on5 of any D+1 rookie in recent history.

It has been such a joy to watch too. For money he's the best rookie skater we have ever had and we"ve had some good ones. It's the IQ and completeness of his game, that really sets him apart.

(Brodeur was the best rookie we ever had though )

 

[JimEIV]

Well Hall has 36 more points then last year, so he is contributing a lot on that up swing of offense we are having thid year

No question about it. He is a huge part of this team.

 

[BahlDeep]

And what I like a lot about Hall is that he actually plays defense. He made some solid play on our own zone and he has done so all year. He still makes those high risk plays that I think any player of his caliber do, and sometimes it turns out to be bad.

 

[JimEIV]

Two goals and two assists in his first 27 games this year, following one goal and one assist in his first 23 games last year. His first 50 NHL games he had exactly 6 points on 3 goals. His steady improvement this year offensively has been amazing.

Im pretty sure he was leading the team in Corsi percentage during that time...if you put any credence in that?

 

[Classic Devil]

I still think Shero is adding another top six forward this off-season.

Depending on the deal, I wouldn't mind adding Nash, Perron, or Neal to fill out the top six. All those guys are still quality second line wingers that should be able to produce ~50 points in our top six.

The best move might be to just retain Maroon.

 

[BahlDeep]

And Coleman has been amazing. He might be our best bottom 6 player.

 

[Devils Dominion]

The best move might be to just retain Maroon.

I'm at and wait and see stage with him.