The Cap world - most likely expansion destinations?

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  1. kurt

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    Now that the NHL has imposed their cap system and achieved cost certainty, it's clear that many markets would be interested in an NHL franchise. Which market do you see as being the most probable location for a new club?
     
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    I would have put two teams for the next five years: Kansas City and Winnipeg. Both have previous history with hockey, and the NHL has had much better luck with second chances (great example: Colorado, Minnesota). Could these two be the next NHL cities in 2010?
     
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    Rule out Atlanta and Toronto for a start. Atlanta will never have another NHL franchise, and needs to stabalise its current franchise. Toronto has the size, but no fan will switch teams. Winnipeg failed once, and the only reason people want it back is because of sentimental values.
    Houston is a huge city, and can easily support a team under the right conditions. It would have local rivals etc. Of course it might not work.

    The NHL should not expand for awhile, atleast 5 years. It needs to secure its other franchises in the south right now.
     
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    Sonnova*****! Boo-boo on my part. That should read San Antonio. I was sidetracked when I was writing it, and thought I corrected it. I guess not.
     
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    I voted Quebec City because I didn't see Hartford ... My bad :cry:
     
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    Las Vegas

    i think if the NHL could get a presence in LV, it might help them become more legitimate.

    Runner up would be Seattle.
     
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    Rick Tocchet could be team president.
     
  8. Winnipeg didn't fail. The owner wanted to move, regardless of how Winnipeg was doing.
     
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    i said Vegas too... from a strictly business standpoint, it's a gold mine. i can see downsides to a team there, but $$$>bad pub. :)

    but, i don't see the nhl 'expanding' for many, many moons. maybe Pit moves, maybe Fla moves... but 30's enough (too many?) as it is.
     
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    I think there should be a few teams in Sweden, Finnland,Britain,Czech,Ireland Maybe in the next 15-25 years.
     
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    A B C

    Anywhere But Canada - the Bettman rule.

    Houston, Kansas City, Oklahoma City - all ready to go.
     
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    CONTRADICTION: the Ottawa Senators: didn't you forget that Bettman (that's right, "stinky old" Bettman) was commissioner when this expansion team began in 1992-93. Man, do people forget.
     
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    Has anyone seen this article from MSNBC yet? On the page there are two lists:

    One for the best ten markets for expansion
    http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/2006/0213/sports_expansion/1.html?hbx=slide_sport_article

    Another for the ten most overextended
    http://www.bizjournals.com/specials/2006/0213/sports_overextend/1.html

    Hartford is #3 on the list for expansion (and number one for NHL).
    Kansas City is #5 for the most overextended.

    Kansas City can't even get people to watch their baseball team. How could they possibly get people to watch hockey?
     
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    i would love to see hartford get a team again.
     
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    Hartford would also be a great place to put a franchise. Hartford-Carolina rivalry right there.

    Portland would be a great place too, especially if the Blazers pack up and leave. Portland-Vancouver rivalry right there.

    Winnipeg too, just because of the sheer hockey demand there. Winnipeg-Minnesota rivalry right there (Province of Hockey vs. State of Hockey).

    And Kansas City, because of the Sprint Center. I don't buy the Royals' low attendance as a prevention for a new franchise. If the MLB had a salary cap, the Royals could definitely be better both attendance-wise and skill-wise. If an NHL team comes there, it could prosper with a state rivalry, a new arena, and a good team.
     
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    One of the reasons why Houston makes sense (besides it's obvious size), is that we have the brand-new Toyota Center. A Houston whoever and Dallas Stars rivalry would be pretty good, as well.
     
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    As well as Houston-Edmonton. Oil connections, so this would be the "Battle of the Oil". Of course, a "Battle of the Lone Star" would be much more fierce.

    So the expansion possibilities are endless. Contraction is pretty ridiculous, should I say?
     
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    Well then it did fail, because it doesnt have an NHL team anymore. I wasnt even 8 when Winnipeg moved i think, so i dont exactly know why they moved though. From the limited stuff i know about the Jets, it was a money thing?
     
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    Bettman wasn't the commish when the franchise was awarded. :shakehead

    Not that I think Bettman would have vetoed it or anything. I'm just saying.
     
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    Oh wait a sec.... Bettman began as Commissioner that season, but not when the franchise was awarded. Forgot to read the fine print. But still, I am pretty sure that the NHL will award Winnipeg and Kansas City the next NHL franchises.
     
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    Oklahoma City wouldn't be a bad place for a team if one would have to move IMO. They have one minor league team in OKC(Blazers) and there are a few more minor league teams in the area as well. Tulsa Oilers is the only other one I can think of,but I'm pretty sure a friend of mine down there mentioned a couple others.
     
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    I expect Oklahoma City to get an AHL franchise (Kansas City affiliate) before they get an NHL team.
     
  23. Wetcoaster

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    I forgot nothing. You on the other hand................... :shakehead

    What "contradiction"?????

    Bettman was appointed commissioner on 1 February 1993. The Senators were already playing in the NHL.

    Also Ottawa was awarded the expansion franchise on 6 December 1990 - over two years before Bettman was hired as Commissioner. John Ziegler was in charge of the NHL at the time that expansion teams were evaluated and the franchise was awarded.

    Gil Stein was NHL President when the Senators entered the NHL.

    So tell me what is the contradiction?
     
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    KC will NEVER get another NHL team

    ever

    not a remote chance of it
     
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    Anchorage. I would love to play a team way up north in the next EA series.
     
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