The Nemesis
Semper Tyrannus
Hi. As a way to introduce myself to this board, I am going to hold the 1st ever "The Nemesis' HF/THN Bust Draft".
What is this "Bust Draft"? Well, In the June 2003 issue of The Hockey News, the team previews section contained a listing of each team's best and worst selections over the previous 10 years (1992 to 2002. Teams in the league for less than 10 years obviously only cover the period of their existence. Franchises that moved include the history of their former location). I've taken the "disappointing picks" list and combined all the players into a draft pool, with the intention that we hold a draft of those players (about 180 of them I think) taking into account what we know about how they all panned out. The list is not completely stocked with burn-outs and never-was players, it simply is a compilation of players taken far too early in the draft given how they had progressed as of 2003. The cutoff for the picks seems to be around the 50-60 mark, so we're pretty much talking nothing but 1st and 2nd rounders, with the occasional high 3rd thrown in. There are some solid players that were taken much too high, some decent players taken a bit too high, and quite a few total busts that probably shouldn't have been picked until much later, if at all. You can find info on all these players at www.hockeydb.com because I don't have the time to make write-ups for all of them.
You'll find a complete list of the eligible players, sorted alphabetically by last name, in the .doc file attached to this post.
If you'd like to sign up, please post in this thread with your chosen team. I will keep track of the participants and their teams in this post (I'll update the signup sheet below every so often). The draft will begin when we have enough participants (if I can't get 29 other people in a reasonable time frame, I'll open up the unselected teams to allow for multiple teams per participant.)
I will not be releasing the draft order until we're ready to begin. That way there's no strategic selection of teams based on the draft position. Rest assured that the order is already determined and it was done in an impartial, purely mathmatical manner, which will be explained when the time comes. And no, it is not just last year's draft order.
Here are the other basic rules:
1) when we start (I will post an official "commencement post" at that time), the clock starts for the first team. Each team will have two days from the time of the previous selection (rounded to the nearest hour) to make their selection and post it on this thread. At that time you should also PM the participant for the next team, so they can have fair warning. Obviously I can't monitor this, but it benefits everyone for this to be as smooth and fair a process as possible.
2) If you fail to make a selection in your allotted time, your pick is not forfeit. However, the teams behind you can continue the draft and make their selections. At any time, you can make up for your pick and choose someone, but you are at the mercy of those who bumped you back in the line. If they choose someone beacuse your clock expired, that player is unavailable to you and you must pick from those players who are left over at the time of your selection. Priority goes to earliest post time. If someone else picks while you're writing your post, you'll have to pick again if they took your player.
3) The initial plan is 3 rounds, ladder style (odd numbered rounds go in the draft order, even numbers go in reverse order.). If there's sufficient interest, I can extend it. The maximum is 6 rounds (because at that point we run out of players)
4) You may trade draft picks and drafted players with other participants. All parties involved in the trade must post their approval here. I will then post trade confirmation and update the draft board. If the active pick is traded, the clock resets for the new owner. You can, of course, trade picks as far as the 6th round, but know the risk that if we don't get that far (because of disinterest), those picks become meaningless.
If you want to participate, please post the team you wish to control. First come, first serve. If two participants claim the same team, I will PM both of you and give you two options: a) work jointly to draft for that team, or b) the earlier poster gets the team and the later one must choose again. The current sign-up sheet is listed below. I am taking San Jose. I will update this as necessary. Teams are listed alphabetically by city. THIS IS NOT THE DRAFT ORDER!
Anaheim-
Atlanta-
Boston-
Buffalo-
Calgary-
Carolina-
Chicago-
Colorado-
Columbus-
Dallas-
Detroit- Shelovesshanny
Edmonton-
Florida-
Los Angeles-
Minnesota-
Montreal- Cyclops
Nashville-
New Jersey- Morrison_rulz
NY Islanders-
NY Rangers-
Ottawa-
Philadelphia-
Phoenix-
Pittsburgh-
St. Louis-
San Jose- The Nemesis (me)
Tampa Bay- RandomCanuckFan
Toronto-
Vancouver- NeoCanuck
Washington-
Thanks for your time and good luck to all who enter. Questions and comments may be PMed to me or posted here.
What is this "Bust Draft"? Well, In the June 2003 issue of The Hockey News, the team previews section contained a listing of each team's best and worst selections over the previous 10 years (1992 to 2002. Teams in the league for less than 10 years obviously only cover the period of their existence. Franchises that moved include the history of their former location). I've taken the "disappointing picks" list and combined all the players into a draft pool, with the intention that we hold a draft of those players (about 180 of them I think) taking into account what we know about how they all panned out. The list is not completely stocked with burn-outs and never-was players, it simply is a compilation of players taken far too early in the draft given how they had progressed as of 2003. The cutoff for the picks seems to be around the 50-60 mark, so we're pretty much talking nothing but 1st and 2nd rounders, with the occasional high 3rd thrown in. There are some solid players that were taken much too high, some decent players taken a bit too high, and quite a few total busts that probably shouldn't have been picked until much later, if at all. You can find info on all these players at www.hockeydb.com because I don't have the time to make write-ups for all of them.
You'll find a complete list of the eligible players, sorted alphabetically by last name, in the .doc file attached to this post.
If you'd like to sign up, please post in this thread with your chosen team. I will keep track of the participants and their teams in this post (I'll update the signup sheet below every so often). The draft will begin when we have enough participants (if I can't get 29 other people in a reasonable time frame, I'll open up the unselected teams to allow for multiple teams per participant.)
I will not be releasing the draft order until we're ready to begin. That way there's no strategic selection of teams based on the draft position. Rest assured that the order is already determined and it was done in an impartial, purely mathmatical manner, which will be explained when the time comes. And no, it is not just last year's draft order.
Here are the other basic rules:
1) when we start (I will post an official "commencement post" at that time), the clock starts for the first team. Each team will have two days from the time of the previous selection (rounded to the nearest hour) to make their selection and post it on this thread. At that time you should also PM the participant for the next team, so they can have fair warning. Obviously I can't monitor this, but it benefits everyone for this to be as smooth and fair a process as possible.
2) If you fail to make a selection in your allotted time, your pick is not forfeit. However, the teams behind you can continue the draft and make their selections. At any time, you can make up for your pick and choose someone, but you are at the mercy of those who bumped you back in the line. If they choose someone beacuse your clock expired, that player is unavailable to you and you must pick from those players who are left over at the time of your selection. Priority goes to earliest post time. If someone else picks while you're writing your post, you'll have to pick again if they took your player.
3) The initial plan is 3 rounds, ladder style (odd numbered rounds go in the draft order, even numbers go in reverse order.). If there's sufficient interest, I can extend it. The maximum is 6 rounds (because at that point we run out of players)
4) You may trade draft picks and drafted players with other participants. All parties involved in the trade must post their approval here. I will then post trade confirmation and update the draft board. If the active pick is traded, the clock resets for the new owner. You can, of course, trade picks as far as the 6th round, but know the risk that if we don't get that far (because of disinterest), those picks become meaningless.
If you want to participate, please post the team you wish to control. First come, first serve. If two participants claim the same team, I will PM both of you and give you two options: a) work jointly to draft for that team, or b) the earlier poster gets the team and the later one must choose again. The current sign-up sheet is listed below. I am taking San Jose. I will update this as necessary. Teams are listed alphabetically by city. THIS IS NOT THE DRAFT ORDER!
Anaheim-
Atlanta-
Boston-
Buffalo-
Calgary-
Carolina-
Chicago-
Colorado-
Columbus-
Dallas-
Detroit- Shelovesshanny
Edmonton-
Florida-
Los Angeles-
Minnesota-
Montreal- Cyclops
Nashville-
New Jersey- Morrison_rulz
NY Islanders-
NY Rangers-
Ottawa-
Philadelphia-
Phoenix-
Pittsburgh-
St. Louis-
San Jose- The Nemesis (me)
Tampa Bay- RandomCanuckFan
Toronto-
Vancouver- NeoCanuck
Washington-
Thanks for your time and good luck to all who enter. Questions and comments may be PMed to me or posted here.
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select Rob Niedermayer.
