Speculation: The Atlantic City experiment

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devilsblood

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South Mountain Arena in West Orange.
But its too close to Newark.

What capacity is Princetons rink?

Does Monmouth have a rink?

1k seat freshly built arena in Middletown. Parking driving nightmare when it's packed.

2k in princeton. (Edit) Hobey Baker Memorial Arena. Third oldest arena still in use in college hockey. Sounds like a good place to catch a game. Vs Harvard? would be sweet.
 
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BadFella

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Can't find any figures for 2014, but here's something from last year.



The announced attendance was 3,999, bringing the average for the four games to 3,986 in a building with a capacity of about 10,800 for hockey. That's up from the 3,498 that Albany averaged in five games at the Hall in 2010-11. It's also better than the AHL-worst 3,435 per game that Albany drew in its own building last season.

"It shows you that there are hockey fans in Atlantic City who are interested in hockey," Albany general manager Chris Lamoriello said. "Certainly with the ECAC championships being here (next month) and us playing the amount of games we did the last three years, the (AHL) All-Star game (last season, which drew 6,113 at the Hall), I don't think there's any confusion that Atlantic City and the people around here are interested in hockey."

The average attendance of 4,380 for the final three games this season was particularly encouraging. The first game drew just 2,803, likely due in part to the Hall having hosted the sold-out Operation Hat Trick charity game featuring NHL stars one night earlier.

Boardwalk Hall general manager Greg Tesone said while the attendance did not increase dramatically from the games two seasons ago, the building was able to sell more sponsorship.

"That's important if we're going to demonstrate that the market's viable for a team," Tesone said.

Source: Atlantic City Press

Sounds like Lou's boy might fancy the place.
 

BadFella

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The 319 also runs limited service to NPS. It's on the site.

Yeah. I had specified departure times favorable to a hockey game and came up emptyhanded.

Leaves Newark at 4:45 in the morning, gets to AC around 7:30 AM.
Leaves AC at 4:30 in the morning, gets to Newark at 7 AM.
Leaves Newark at 9:45 at night, gets to AC just after midnight.

Not exactly helpful for hockey fans unless they want to stay the night.
 

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Can't find any figures for 2014, but here's something from last year.





Source: Atlantic City Press

Sounds like Lou's boy might fancy the place.

I'm pretty sure the charity game with NHL players during the lockout sold out.
 

BadFella

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I'm pretty sure the charity game with NHL players during the lockout sold out.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/h...-charity-game-sandy-victims-article-1.1207572

The result was a sold-out crowd of 10,792, the majority of them Flyers fans, with Blueshirts faithful sprinkled throughout the stands. They were there to show support both for the charity and for a sport that is still in lockdown as the owners and players battle over money and contract rights.

The All-Star game there did well, too.

The worst thing about Operation Hat Trick (the charity game) was seeing Marty, Clarktard and the rest of "Team New Jersey" in Flyers orange and black while "Team New York" were in Rangers colors.
 

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http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/h...-charity-game-sandy-victims-article-1.1207572

The result was a sold-out crowd of 10,792, the majority of them Flyers fans, with Blueshirts faithful sprinkled throughout the stands. They were there to show support both for the charity and for a sport that is still in lockdown as the owners and players battle over money and contract rights.

The All-Star game there did well, too.

The worst thing about Operation Hat Trick (the charity game) was seeing Marty, Clarktard and the rest of "Team New Jersey" in Flyers orange and black while "Team New York" were in Rangers colors.

What All Star game? AHL/ECHL or something?

I think the A Devils could do good there. We have a million (get it? :naughty:) more reasons as Jersey/NYC residents to catch a game in AC vs drivin up to Albany to do nothing.

Also getting to AC is no problem, theres tons of those busses that do those day trips there and they stop at like every single supermarket in the state.
 

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I really wanna see the Devils play a game there. Get HBO/Boardwalk Empire & some Casino or PartyPoker to sponsor it lol (I'm going to miss that show).
 

BadFella

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What All Star game? AHL/ECHL or something?
Yeah. AHL. Even though the arena has only been permanent home to an ECHL team. It is/was the secondary home to Albany, so I guess that's why they got it.

I think the A Devils could do good there. We have a million (get it? :naughty:) more reasons as Jersey/NYC residents to catch a game in AC vs drivin up to Albany to do nothing.
Well said. Toss in some casino credits or hotel discounts for fans who buy tix directly. It'd be a goldmine for NJD.

Also getting to AC is no problem, theres tons of those busses that do those day trips there and they stop at like every single supermarket in the state.
If you're on the Garden State side, anyway. The It's a little bit worse for Turnpikers, but not terribly so.
 

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Yeah. AHL. Even though the arena has only been permanent home to an ECHL team. It is/was the secondary home to Albany, so I guess that's why they got it.


Well said. Toss in some casino credits or hotel discounts for fans who buy tix directly. It'd be a goldmine for NJD.


If you're on the Garden State side, anyway. The It's a little bit worse for Turnpikers, but not terribly so.

No kidding, I had no clue there was an Ahl ASG played there. If they do it again and in the format they did this year (AHL starts vs SEL team), I am first in line for tickets!

I cold easily see a casino potentially teaming up with the A Devils or the big club on something like this. Bringing in 10k potential gamblers... and then doing it on a regular basis? Thats a win right there.

Even if only 5k come on a regular basis and wander into the sponsoring casino for their free $10 in chips its a win.
 

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We're already teamed up with PartyPoker, who are affiliated with Borgata (a gambling site has to be licensed out of Atlantic City to be legal in NJ)... and the owner of the Devils is an investor in Caesars, so, they should and could totally make it happen.

On the other hand, the governor is trying to legalize sports gambling in casinos, and then it becomes a bit dicey when the team and casino are directly in cahoots.
 

Mory Schneideur*

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IDK about you guys, buy what a cool venue for a game! I can't tell you how bad I would love to watch an NHL game there!

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Yeah, it's hard to believe the place was around in Nucky's era, but it was.

MSG who? That dump opened in the late 60s.
 

Mory Schneideur*

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Haha crazy huh? This would be such an awesome location for our Retro game. 1 game a year over here.

Speaking or retro, I got the idea the other day that it would be cool if the Devils played a game in greens at Izod. That would bring memories back lol.
 

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Why not have 2 retro nights a year? Play the first one in Kansas City and the second one in Denver. I'm sure our fans would appreciate that.
 

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Why not have 2 retro nights a year? Play the first one in Kansas City and the second one in Denver. I'm sure our fans would appreciate that.

Kansas would be pretty cool, its not that far! Would Lou let them wear KC throwbacks though?
 

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What a joke that Sandy fundraiser was. Organized by the Flyers Players and changed to NY vs. NJ. DEvils players were added later, you would think Jersey's team would of taken intiative.

Figured the Devils would of been over all that one, the players at least.

I went to the after party and the nicest guy was Henrik, everyone couldn't of been bothered with the plebs at the club.
 

GhostofKenKlee

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Haha crazy huh? This would be such an awesome location for our Retro game. 1 game a year over here.

Speaking or retro, I got the idea the other day that it would be cool if the Devils played a game in greens at Izod. That would bring memories back lol.

Yeah, that's not happening anytime soon. That was an ugly divorce between the state and the Devils.
 

Mory Schneideur*

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What a joke that Sandy fundraiser was. Organized by the Flyers Players and changed to NY vs. NJ. DEvils players were added later, you would think Jersey's team would of taken intiative.

Figured the Devils would of been over all that one, the players at least.

I went to the after party and the nicest guy was Henrik, everyone couldn't of been bothered with the plebs at the club.

Damn I wish I went to that.
 

GhostofKenKlee

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The Shore has a decent size population surrounding AC. The key is to market to them and let them own it. AC is 60 plus miles to Philly but play in the Philly market. It has to be done wisely.
 

GhostofKenKlee

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Damn I wish I went to that.

The game or the after party? The game was meh, my buddy is in the bar/nightclub business and we had tickets and were on the otherside of the rope so to speak. It was amazing to see players blow off fans, I get they were all there to party but it was marketed as a party in which the players would be in attendance. I came away with lots of respect for Henrik, who stopped for every fan possible.
 

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The game or the after party? The game was meh, my buddy is in the bar/nightclub business and we had tickets and were on the otherside of the rope so to speak. It was amazing to see players blow off fans, I get they were all there to party but it was marketed as a party in which the players would be in attendance. I came away with lots of respect for Henrik, who stopped for every fan possible.

Both. Just seems like a cool experience. Also if it sucks you can always just wander off and have a blast. AC is almost limitless with fun sometimes.
 

Mory Schneideur*

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The game or the after party? The game was meh, my buddy is in the bar/nightclub business and we had tickets and were on the otherside of the rope so to speak. It was amazing to see players blow off fans, I get they were all there to party but it was marketed as a party in which the players would be in attendance. I came away with lots of respect for Henrik, who stopped for every fan possible.

Can you just give examples of blowing off too? Were they just being straight up rude?
 
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