The All-Time Hype Draft

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  1. reidy

    reidy @reidjjackson

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    Since the NHL Draft began, there always seems to be a player or two every season who gets hyped as a "franchise talent," "generational talent," or something similar.

    So here's the idea. I've compiled a list of some of the most-hyped players PRE-NHL in the league's history. I want you guys to pick them in the order they'd be drafted, taking into account:

    - They are all 18
    - Any injuries / poor performance in their future do NOT come into play

    Remember, you're basing this draft based on HYPE ONLY. Alexandre Daigle was a huge bust, but at the time, he was supposed to be the next Gretz.

    List:


    Bobby Orr (Not drafted, but hyped to high heaven when he came into the league)
    Wayne Gretzky
    Mario Lemieux
    Dale Hawerchuk
    Bobby Carpenter (SI's Can't Miss Kid)
    Bryan Lawton
    Pierre Turgeon
    Wendell Clark
    Joe Murphy
    Mike Modano
    Mats Sundin
    Jaromir Jagr (5th overall, but I've heard he was the consensus #1 in 1990)
    Eric Lindros
    Alexei Yashin
    Alexandre Daigle
    Ed Jovanovski
    Bryan Berard
    Chris Phillips
    Joe Thornton
    Vincent Lecavalier
    Patrik Stefan
    Dany Heatley
    Ilya Kovalchuk
    Jason Spezza
    Rick Nash
    MA Fleury
    Alexander Ovechkin
    Evgeni Malkin
    Sidney Crosby
    Erik Johnson

    That's 30.

    Remember, you're drafting based on THEIR POTENTIAL AT THE TIME OF THEIR DRAFT YEAR ONLY, NOT ON SUBSEQUENT RESULTS.

    So hockey historians, have at it.
     
  2. Beauty eh?

    Beauty eh? Not sure if serious.

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  3. Spitfire11

    Spitfire11 Registered User

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    Was Phillips really that hyped?
     
  4. reidy

    reidy @reidjjackson

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    I don't know too much about the 1996 draft, but he went #1, and I tried to include every #1 pick from a draft that didn't include a superduperstar from picks 2-10.
     
  5. Leaf Lander

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    sundin hyped?
     
  6. reidy

    reidy @reidjjackson

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    Again, he was a #1 pick, and the best player from his draft year. I'm assuming he was the most hyped player from that year.

    If I had left him off, I'd imagine every single Leafs fan would be upset.
     
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    Since when do we care what the Leafs fans say?

    :biglaugh:
     
  8. Northern Dancer

    Northern Dancer The future ain't what it used to be.

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    Based on this list and based solely on what they were in junior hockey, without a doubt (imo) Eric Lindros would have been # 1.
    btw. Wendel Clark I believe was not rated # 1 his draft year, Craig Simspon was
     
  9. HFNHL Canadiens

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    you may want to add Jay Bouwmeester, I believe he was the consesus #1 pick but fell to 3 on draft day, because of a trade Florida made.
     
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    Considering he was the first European to ever be drafted first overall, I'd say there was a fair amount of hype surrounding him.
     
  11. Nalyd Psycho

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    Keep in midn the 1st round that year was beyond horrible.
     
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    Mike Ricci was a guy I remember being really hyped
     
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    No offense, but if that list is supposed to be in order, it is a terrible list. I would say its something like this.

    Keep in mind, my list is from 1989 and beyond since I became a fan in 1989, so I know I omitted Bobby, Wayne and Mario. And this is only considering their draft year since someone like Dan Cleary was really hyped as a 15 year old, but by the time we reached his draft year, he slipped considerably. Same with Sergei Samsonov and Mike Ricci.


    1. Eric Lindros
    2. Sidney Crosby
    3. Alexander Ovechkin
    4. Evgeny Malkin
    5. Alexandre Daigle
    6. Joe Thorton
    7. Ilya Kovalchuk
    8. Jason Spezza
    9. Vincent Lecavlier
    10. Jay Boumeester
     
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    top 5 that ive witnessed.

    1. Eric Lindros
    2. Sidney Crosby
    3. Malkin
    4. ALex Daigle
    5. Alexander Ovechkin
    with spezza/bouwmeister right behind.
     
  15. PeteLaframboise

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    I'd like to add two of my own :
    Slava Kozlov ( the russian Mario Lemieux )
    Daniel Cleary ( remember them sayin he was the kid with the most talent of his draft, Thornton, Marleau and Hossa were in that draft.)
     
  16. reidy

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    It's by draft year.
     
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    I kind of figured that, but then why is Hawerchuk listed after Mario?
     
  18. Form and Substance

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    In my lifetime

    1.Eric Lindros (possibly exacerbated by the draft day debacle)
    2.Sidney Crosby (Gretzky's predictions in 2002-2003)
    3.Alexander Ovechkin (setting the hockey world on fire after the U-18s)
    4.Alexandre Daigle (I'm a Quebecquer so of course we've heard more of him)
    5.Evgeny Malkin (America odyssee, some pundits saying he was better than Ovechkin)
    6.Jason Spezza (About as muh hype as Tavares now)
    7.Ilya Kovalchuk (came on strong in his draft year)
    8.Joe Thornton (Still remember the hype, was supposed to be like Lindros)
    9.Paul Kariya (deafening hype surrounding him + the olympics)
    10. Vincent Lecavalier (I used to play in Ile Bizard)

    Bouwmeester should get a mention as well. Making the WJC squad immediately brought to the fore Orr comparisons which have since been unfounded, but that won't prevent him from being an elite defenseman in the league.
     
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    From what I remember, the top 4 that year were considered far ahead the rest of the field. Especially Ricci who was hyped heavily (have no idea why he slipped to #4; he played great that year). Ironically that same draft year all the experts were saying that Trevor Kidd was undoubtedly the best available goalie. Some kid in Quebec named Brodeur turned out somewhat better.

    Even though he didn`t go #1, Brian Bellows was hyped a lot in his draft year; the Hockey News had him on their cover midway through the season, something they rarely did for players still in junior.
     
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    If you have Bobby Orr on this list you must have Gilbert Perrault, Denis Potvin, Marcel Dionne and Guy Lafleur on the list and probably some others.

    Lindros and Crosby had the most hype but that was due more to the massive increase in the media/sports coverage ESPN and TSN and such.

    Starting from Bobby Orr's time through Sidney Crosby if all these players were 18 years old and exposed to the same media exposure in the same draft I think it would go like this:

    1) Mario Lemieux - Scouts that watched him would have been in awe of his size and skill. Questions about his attitude when he was a teenager wouldn't matter because he would appear to be the most talented player in history.
    2) Bobby Orr - Scouts would have saw his speed, strength, skill and attitude
    3) Eric Lindros - His sheer Physical dominance combined with his skill would see him picked ahead of Gretzky and others who turned out greater.
    4) Sidney Crosby - His amazing skills and thick frame would have seen him drafted this high despite his shorter stature
    5) Wayne Gretzky - Might have gone higher except some scouts still doubted his size and slight build.
    6) Denis Potvin - Defenceman that could truly do everything perfectly
    7) Guy Lafleur - He was drafted as a 20 year old. Still he accomplished a ton as an 18 year old and would go this high I think.

    After that it would be a crapshoot but many on the list of 30 would not even be considered to be taken this high and were just top 3 picks in weaker draft years.
     
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    1990 was a great draft in general, a ton of talent from top to bottom
     
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    there is sucg a long list in the last 10 years

    seems like every year they say "best since 79"

    this day an age it is all hype
     
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    Wasn't Neidermeyer more hyped though? Wasn't Falloon a late riser due to the Memorial Cup.
     

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