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Hot take that I would get lynched for anywhere but this thread: Scott Stevens is a glorified Chris Tanev and doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame.
+1Hot take that I would get lynched for anywhere but this thread: Scott Stevens is a glorified Chris Tanev and doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame.
Nice hot taek schoolboyHot take that I would get lynched for anywhere but this thread: Scott Stevens is a glorified Chris Tanev and doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame.
Hot take that I would get lynched for anywhere but this thread: Scott Stevens is a glorified Chris Tanev and doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame.
I think users can delete their own posts now FYI.delete, my memory is going. im old
Don't see how they are even remotely comparable given Tanev has 86 points in his career and Stevens once had 78 points in a single season (obviously higher scoring era but still).
Seems like with a lot of the young guys on the team getting minutes, people are seeing what they want to see instead of what's actually there. Or blaming poor play on AV, which I suppose is fair enough, even if we have rel team metrics to account for things like this.
Some of these young guys, especially on D, really aren't that great right now.
Especially O'Gara, but at least HF is united on how bad he's been.
Not seeing what everyone else is in Pionk and ADA.
Not a fan of using rel team metrics in Pionk's case...57% DZS% and facing opponent's top players well beyond League average...at this stage in his development...in this defensive system. Odds are stacked WAYYY against him. Like his poise, skating ability, and ability to move the puck.
This is reeeeally random.Hot take that I would get lynched for anywhere but this thread: Scott Stevens is a glorified Chris Tanev and doesn't belong in the Hall of Fame.
This is reeeeally random.
Ok so he scored 78 once he also put up 50+ 8 times. Did cheechoo score 50+ once and then have seven other 25+ goal years? Don’t see how this is comparable whatsoever.
Lol that was over a decade into his career. There was also the 1994-95 lockout-shortened season so it's really after 1994-95.He broke 30 points once after 1993-94. Nobody brings it up.
Lol that was over a decade into his career. There was also the 1994-95 lockout-shortened season so it's really after 1994-95.
I don't think anyone else considers this a deficiency.And he spent 8 years being Chris Tanev.
Shouldn't a "top 10 D of all time" like, not do that?
He got all of his notoriety and individual awards as a Devil. Nobody gave a **** about him on the Capitals. And yet we'll use point totals from Washington to defend his deficiencies in New Jersey. I don't think it works that way.
I don't think anyone else considers this a deficiency.
He was kind of good at defending.If you don't consider averaging 26 points a deficiency as a #1D (nevermind a HOF D), then you're wrong.
He was kind of good at defending.
How sure of this are you, and how much does it matter?
EDIT - I'm not saying you're wrong, or that I necessarily disagree, but we don't have a good way to evaluate how much qual comp actually matters yet.... I think.
Hell, when the Devils won the Cup in 2003 he was the third best D on his own team.