hockeyviking
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Extraordinary ??? There is nothing extraordinnary about leading the shl in points . Do you even watch shl ?Sure it can. Young kids doing extraordinary things is pretty good evidence of being a damn good player.
Extraordinary ??? There is nothing extraordinnary about leading the shl in points . Do you even watch shl ?Sure it can. Young kids doing extraordinary things is pretty good evidence of being a damn good player.
Makar has played 16 games of NCAA hockey.
Pettersson has played 26 games in the SHL.
Still not ready to make a definitive statement on either player, but anyone who's getting all discouraged because the pick everyone knew was gonna be a project isn't suddenly taking over Cawlidge Hawkey with his dazzling skill set hasn't been paying attention.
I certainly hope Elias Pettersson becomes the player everyone thinks he will be. The more talent in this league, the better. Obviously I'm hoping just a little bit more that Makar pans out. But I'm not ready to make some definitive statement on Hepple and his team based on a very small sample size.
2012-13 | UMass-Amherst | H-East | 27 | 9 | 16 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 20 | 0.370 | 72 | 79 | 0 | 4209 | John Micheletto | ||
2013-14 | UMass-Amherst | H-East | 20 | 4 | 13 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 11 | 0.275 | 42 | 61 | 0 | 3891 | John Micheletto | ||
2014-15 | UMass-Amherst | H-East | 36 | 11 | 23 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 24 | 0.333 | 99 | 152 | 0 | 2581 | John Micheletto | ||
2015-16 | UMass-Amherst | H-East | 36 | 8 | 24 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 20 | 0.278 | 84 | 146 | 391 | 2867 | John Micheletto | ||
2016-17 | UMass-Amherst | H-East | 36 | 5 | 29 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 12 | 0.167 | 66 | 132 | 0 | ||||
2017-18 | UMass-Amherst | H-East | 7 | 3 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 0.429 | 20 | 27 |
Extraordinary ??? There is nothing extraordinnary about leading the shl in points . Do you even watch shl ?
It's absolutely hindsight after months of if this org doesn't take a defenseman for once posts.
There's not a lot of success stories for sub-5'10 defensemen in the league either, but we're betting a lot on Girard being skilled enough to break that trend. Besides, he's 19 and can fill out. No doubt Vancouver is going to be working on nutrition with him to try and bulk him up. But saying "he's too skinny to be an NHL player" is as baseless as saying Girard is "too small to be an NHL defenseman". The league isn't nearly as physical as it used to be, and especially for a guy who plays such a calm, poised, silky-smooth skill game he's not going to spend a lot of time throwing his body around.Pettersson is insanely skinny and no one knows how it will translate in the NHL. There's not a lot of success stories with tall ultra skinny dudes in this league.
Also I highly doubt he was even on the radar for the AVS.
But history dosent mather. Shl was once the best League exept för NHL. IT isnt anymore. Its not even closse. IF he had put up the same stat 10 years ago i would be exceptionell. But right now shl isnt a good League anymore. Kepping a ppg in Ahl is mutch harder.I don't need to watch the shl to know that only one time in league history has someone under 20 ever had a better ppg. And that was back in the seventies.
I don't need to watch the shl to know that Peter Forsberg was the last teenager to average a ppg back in the early 90's. It's been 25 years since a 19 year old has been this dominate in the SHL (Nylander was close a couple years ago)
I don't need to watch the shl to know that only 6 people in league history have ever had a PPG average or better who were under 20.
And I don't need to watch the shl to know how extrodinary those instances are. Leading the league isnt extraordinary. Someone does it every year. Doing it at 19 is however. Hell, what this kid is accomplishing is damn near historical.
Eliteprospects.com - All-Time Stats and Leaders from SHL
Not the fleetest eitherPettersson is insanely skinny and no one knows how it will translate in the NHL. There's not a lot of success stories with tall ultra skinny dudes in this league.
Also I highly doubt he was even on the radar for the AVS.
Yeah they are a lot better and I've seen them play, they still have a long way to go.Please guys, stop with this "UMass is dreadful" nonsense.
UMass a billion times better than previous seasons Patagonia. As Hench said, they got a decent new head coach and got an insane freshman class.
If Hepple thought Pettersson was the bpa over Heiskanen y'all would have lost your damn minds. Lot of revisionist history going on here.
But history dosent mather. Shl was once the best League exept för NHL. IT isnt anymore. Its not even closse. IF he had put up the same stat 10 years ago i would be exceptionell. But right now shl isnt a good League anymore. Kepping a ppg in Ahl is mutch harder.
You are overvalueing his performance bacause you are overvalueing SHL
The amount of players on a ppg in AHL dosent say anything about how hard it is. You also need to look att the players..... Would they do the same in the SHL. Yes of Course whitout any problem. Just look at the players that is on a ppg in the shl would most of them do IT in the AHL, no way.If the shl is so bad recently then why havnt all the teenagers been hitting a ppg? Nylander has been the only one the past decade to even come close to a ppg, and he is proving to be a pretty damn good NHLer. Despite your past decade parameters he is still the only one to do it.
And you are just wrong about the AHL. There are 12 guys with a ppg in the SHL right now, including a guy who has 1 point in one game. There are 24 in the AHL with 10+ games played. There are another 21 guys who have played in less than 10 games. I know the SHL is a smaller league, but 12 vs 45 is a massive difference.
Last year only 2 guys in the SHL were a ppg. 7 (3 of which played just 1 game) hit the mark the year before. Only 4 guys got there the year before that. The AHL the past 3 years: 20 (44 including guys with less than ten games), 17 (33), 11 (37). So, not counting the guys with less than 10 games, the SHL has 10 ppg players the past 3 years. The AHL has had 48. 10 vs 48. It's not even a debate. It's obviously much easier to hit ppg in the AHL, not the SHL.
Since it seems sure that we wont have Ottawap>
2019 seems to have good players, I know it is too early to judge but that Jack Hugues kid seems to be a hell of a player
The amount of players on a ppg in AHL dosent say anything about how hard it is. You also need to look att the players..... Would they do the same in the SHL. Yes of Course whitout any problem. Just look at the players that is on a ppg in the shl would most of them do IT in the AHL, no way.
But shl wasnt week 10 years ago or even 5 years ago, its in s free fall when it comes to Qality the last years. This i have explsined already. What Nylander did dosent mather because the qality is not the same anymore. Acording to your teory its harder to have ppg in shl than in the NHL....... Do that makes sence?You have no clue how these guys would do in the other league. Some guys do better in the AHL. And the number of guys to do it in each league is a direct result of how hard it is to score a ppg in each league. If 10% of 1 league is above a ppg and only 5% of the other league is that shows it's harder to reach a ppg in that league. If you start moving players from one league to the other then that also changes the quality of the league.
And I'll ask again, if it's so easy to do what he is doing then why is he the only teenager to hit a ppg in the last 25 years, which would include the past decade? There have been numerous 1st rounders taken the past decade to play in the SHL, including some top10 picks. Yet, only Nylander came even close to a ppg. And Pettersson is scoring .4 more than Nylander. 40% more! Despite a weak league none of these other highly thought of Swedes came close to what Pettersson is doing this year.
It doesn't because players put up big numbers in the SHL that can't even make the NHLBut shl wasnt week 10 years ago or even 5 years ago, its in s free fall when it comes to Qality the last years. This i have explsined already. What Nylander did dosent mather because the qality is not the same anymore. Acording to your teory its harder to have ppg in shl than in the NHL....... Do that makes sence?
As Hench said, they got a decent new head coach and got an insane freshman class.