Teräväinen vs. Panarin

[Rene Saari]

Where is that member, who laughed at me, when Teuvo was traded I said that Teuvo is a Panarin type of guy, just 3 years younger, so plenty of time to develop and maybe become better player in near future?

Btw, Teuvo is still one year younger than Panarin was in his rookie year...

2017-18

Carolina Hurricanes

NHL

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19

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2017-18

Columbus Blue Jackets

NHL

20

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14

8

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[tarheelhockey]

I’m not so sure Teuvo has multiple 30 goal seasons in him, let’s be realistic here, but the age difference is pretty huge. Panarin at 26 is what he is, and most likely has about 2-4 seasons of real relevance left in him. Teravainen at 23 still has some growing to do, and about twice as much high-end production left.

 

[geehaad]

TT has all the skill he needs to become a recognized name to the general public...the question in my mind is whether he can get his mind right in terms of consistency. Some would point to his lack of physicality, but I think that's a relatively small factor in his effectiveness. The opinion of him that I've pulled out of my ass is that his biggest obstacle is his own confidence; he tries amazing things when he's been recently successful, and seems to be indecisive when he hasn't.

 

[the halleJOKEL]

he is shooting in a lot of situations that he would have passed. he has a very deceptive release on his shot that seems to catch goalies off guard. him starting to finish is making defending that line a nightmare for other teams.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I mean that saucer to Aho yesterday was insane. Whatever reaction we had to that, it deserved more freaking out. Amazing.

He was kind of my candidate for a breakout this year, but certainly wasn’t expecting this. This will die down at some point of course, but if he can keep shooting like he is we may finally have a guy that can finish the puck like an All-Star.

 

[GoldiFox]

TT has always been a short burst, high event player. There is a reason you are comparing stats after a 4 GP / 10 point week. Historically it seems like he is more likely to have a 2+ point night than a 1 point night.

Everyone hopes that he finally puts it together consistently. Maybe handcuffing him to Aho gets him there. Put a more offensively talented, but still big Center in between the two and the Canes might actually have a legit 1st line. From my viewings (maybe 20 games) Panarin is a much more consistent and dangerous scoring threat.

 

[Ole Gil]

TT against terrible defensive teams is dynamite. But in close checking hockey games, and that's going to be a lot, he hasn't looked anything like the guy who just lit up Dallas and the Islesx2.

2 goals vs Edmonton. 3 pts vs Toronto. 5 vs isles. 4 vs Dallas.

If he gets space, watch out. But when teams put someone in his face all game, I think he has a hard time.

 

[RibFrabcus]

TT against terrible defensive teams is dynamite. But in close checking hockey games, and that's going to be a lot, he hasn't looked anything like the guy who just lit up Dallas and the Islesx2.

2 goals vs Edmonton. 3 pts vs Toronto. 5 vs isles. 4 vs Dallas.

If he gets space, watch out. But when teams put someone in his face all game, I think he has a hard time.

What I like about the TSA line, and why I think Teuvo excels there, is that they are all able to win pucks and create space for each other. Jordan can muscle guys off the puck, and Aho is a wizard. TT can just find soft spots and shoot.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

TT against terrible defensive teams is dynamite. But in close checking hockey games, and that's going to be a lot, he hasn't looked anything like the guy who just lit up Dallas and the Islesx2.

2 goals vs Edmonton. 3 pts vs Toronto. 5 vs isles. 4 vs Dallas.

If he gets space, watch out. But when teams put someone in his face all game, I think he has a hard time.

A good observation for sure.

One of the things that gives me hope that he can still be productive through that is that we’ve basically given him and Aho the reigns to our PP and said “here, YOU fix it.” And they’ve looked good doing it.

Doesn’t matter how good a defensive team, if we get a couple of power plays TT will at least get the opportunity to show what he can do.

 

[The Faulker 27]

TT against terrible defensive teams is dynamite. But in close checking hockey games, and that's going to be a lot, he hasn't looked anything like the guy who just lit up Dallas and the Islesx2.

2 goals vs Edmonton. 3 pts vs Toronto. 5 vs isles. 4 vs Dallas.

If he gets space, watch out. But when teams put someone in his face all game, I think he has a hard time.

This. He requires space. If he figures out how to find room, when there seemingly isn't (ala Skinner) watch out.

 

[MinJaBen]

Put a more offensively talented, but still big Center in between the two and the Canes might actually have a legit 1st line.

You have to wonder what a matured Necas would look like between those two guys.

 

[NotOpie]

TT against terrible defensive teams is dynamite. But in close checking hockey games, and that's going to be a lot, he hasn't looked anything like the guy who just lit up Dallas and the Islesx2.

2 goals vs Edmonton. 3 pts vs Toronto. 5 vs isles. 4 vs Dallas.

If he gets space, watch out. But when teams put someone in his face all game, I think he has a hard time.

The main difference is that he's looking for his shot more, while also remaining an excellent and talented distributor. You can neither afford to collapse on him (as he'll eat you alive finding the open man) nor can you drop back (as he'll get that shot of his off). With the coaches telling him to shoot more, he's more like Jeff Skinner if Skins would make more passes like he's been doing recently (Lindy's goal as an example).

The other thing that gets overlooked is that he's a phenomenal skater and he seems to be fumbling the puck less. While I agree that if somebody staples a skilled, fast, physical forward to him, he's likely to struggle more, I'm not convinced that he's quite as easily shut down as last season, mostly because he seems to be handling the puck and the pressure better.

 

[Hulkacaniac]

Not to be downer or anything, but some of his shots have just been heat seeking, somehow finding the back of the net. I'm thinking his first last night and wanna say his first against Dallas. He's shooting 18.6% on the season which won't stay that high

 

[JCLA]

Not to be downer or anything, but some of his shots have just been heat seeking, somehow finding the back of the net. I'm thinking his first last night and wanna say his first against Dallas. He's shooting 18.6% on the season which won't stay that high

 

[MinJaBen]

Not to be downer or anything, but some of his shots have just been heat seeking, somehow finding the back of the net. I'm thinking his first last night and wanna say his first against Dallas. He's shooting 18.6% on the season which won't stay that high

Yeah, he has definitely gotten a few bounces/deflections that helped. But then, so do all scorers. He will come back down to Earth at some point, but hopefully we can ride this for a bit.

 

[Hulkacaniac]

Plz just love me

 

[CandyCanes]

I've always thought TT could become a 60pt guy with 25 goals since we acquired him. If he can finish the year in that range I'd be thrilled.

 

[DaveG]

Not to be downer or anything, but some of his shots have just been heat seeking, somehow finding the back of the net. I'm thinking his first last night and wanna say his first against Dallas. He's shooting 18.6% on the season which won't stay that high

Right even with that being the case though those are going to be resulting in rebounds even if he goes back to more human type shooting numbers, and guys that are a bit snakebit like Aho was earlier in the season or like Faulk currently is still have a good chance of being the beneficiaries. He'll slow down some, but not THAT much.

 

[CandyCanes]

Right even with that being the case though those are going to be resulting in rebounds even if he goes back to more human type shooting numbers, and guys that are a bit snakebit like Aho was earlier in the season or like Faulk currently is still have a good chance of being the beneficiaries. He'll slow down some, but not THAT much.

Another guy being snakebit is Williams, with only 3 goals, one of them being an empty netter. Last 3 seasons he's averaged a 11.86% shooting percentage, he's at 7.9% right now. Take away the empty netter and he's at a 5.2% shooting percentage. He's probably going to score some goals soon, hopefully.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Small sample size stats aside, I don't know anyone who watches both of these two players and think's TT is as dangerous offensively as Panarin is. Still, good to see TT seemingly take another step forward in his development. I agree with Wally though, he does well with time and space and seems to be less effective against teams that limit time and space. The PP should provide him an opportunity for more time and space though if they can improve that.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

He can't create space on his own, but he's incredibly effective when he does have room to work. He's also gotten puck luck recently.

He's the antithesis of Staal. Staal can create space, one of the few guys on the 'Canes that can do so on command, but he's ineffective to the point that he will eventually turn it over anyway. So they work well together.

People think Staal was a bad draft pick over Toews, Kessel, Backstrom, but you can see why scouts loved the guy, if he had developed offensive instincts he'd be the bigger, meaner version of prime Eric Staal. You gotta think Pittsburgh forcing him into a grinding role until he was 24 stunted his offensive development.

 

[geehaad]

The good news is that TT doesn't need space to operation in. #phonebooth