Team Sweden - All time team

[Eye of Ra]

How would you guys construct an all time team Sweden?

My take:

Henrik Lundqvist
Tommy Salo
Pelle Linbergh

Nicklas Lidström - Kenny Jönsson
Victor Hedman - Erik Karlsson
Anders Eldebrink - Börje Salming

Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Håkan Loob
Markus Näslund - Peter Forsberg - Henrik Zetterberg
Mats Näslund - Mats Sundin - Daniel Alfredsson
Johan Franzen - Nicklas Bäckström - Mikael Renberg

I dont see Kenta Nilsson beating out Bäckström. The generation with Tumba etc where not that good.

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[Boxscore]

My team...

Markus Naslund - Peter Forsberg - Mats Sundin
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Daniel Alfredsson
Mats Naslund - Nicklas Backstrom - Hakan Loob
Bob Nystrom - Kent Nilsson - Henrik Zetterberg

Nicklas Lidstrom - Borje Salming
Victor Hedman - Erik Karlsson
Niklas Kronwall - Ulf Samuelsson

Henrik Lundqvist
Pelle Lindbergh

 

[Eye of Ra]

My team...

Markus Naslund - Peter Forsberg - Mats Sundin
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Daniel Alfredsson
Mats Naslund - Nicklas Backstrom - Hakan Loob
Bob Nystrom - Kent Nilsson - Henrik Zetterberg

Nicklas Lidstrom - Borje Salming
Victor Hedman - Erik Karlsson
Niklas Kronwall - Ulf Samuelsson

Henrik Lundqvist
Pelle Lindbergh

nystrom was from canada

 

[Boxscore]

nystrom was from canada

But technically born in Stockholm. So he was Swedish-born. How are we determining who qualifies as "Swedish player" or not? Honest question.

 

[feffan]

But technically born in Stockholm. So he was Swedish-born. How are we determining who qualifies as "Swedish player" or not? Honest question.

In this case Bob himself has in interviews said that he more considers himself Canadian and American than Swedish. Even if he´s said he´s proud of his swedish heritage.

Stockholmaren som blev NHL-legendar - Old School Hockey Bob Nystrom - Hockeysverige

He also never touched a hockey stick or puck in Sweden, but begun playing as soon he arrived across the pond. So he´s never schooled in the swedish hockey system.

Had he decided to represent Sweden in the Canada Cup 1981 things may have been debatable as I see it (he was invited, but was in contract negotiations so wouldn´t risk anything...). But as things are now he´s no more swedish than Sandström or Widing are finnish.

 

[DowntownBooster]

It would be remiss for the following individuals to not be given consideration:

Anders Hedberg
Ulf Nilsson
Lars-Erik Sjöberg

 

[Thenameless]

On a team of 12 Swedish forwards, Kent Nilsson makes it for sure. I agree that Bob Nystrom is more Canadian.

 

[Eye of Ra]

On a team of 12 Swedish forwards, Kent Nilsson makes it for sure. I agree that Bob Nystrom is more Canadian.

who does kenta beat out. he is not better than forsberg, sundin, sedin, bäckström/zetterberg

 

[Hobnobs]

Coach: Tommy Sandlin

Marcus Näslund - Peter Forsberg - Daniel Alfredsson
Mats Näslund - Mats Sundin - Håkan Loob
Kenta Nilsson - Henrik Zetterberg - Anders Hedberg
Ulf Sterner - Sven Tumba - Tomas Sandström

Nicklas Lidström - Börje Salming
Roland Stoltz - Lasse Björn
Ulf Samuelsson - Erik Karlsson

Henrik Lundqvist
Leif "Honken" Holmqvist
"Pekka" Lindmark

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

markus naslund - peter forsberg - daniel alfredsson
mats naslund - ulf nilsson - anders hedberg
daniel sedin - henrik sedin - henrik zetterberg
mats sundin - sven tumba - hakan loob
kent nilsson

nicklas lidstrom - lennart svedberg
erik karlsson - borje salming
lars-erik sjoberg - ulf samuelsson
victor hedman

henrik lundqvist
pelle lindbergh
honken holmqvist

 

[Thenameless]

who does kenta beat out. he is not better than forsberg, sundin, sedin, bäckström/zetterberg

I'd use him in place of one of the wingers. He's clearly much better than some of the guys on the various lists, even if he's out of position. Canada does this a lot in international competitions, loading up on their talented centers.

 

[ESH]

who does kenta beat out. he is not better than forsberg, sundin, sedin, bäckström/zetterberg

He played lots of time in the league on the wing

 

[SCampo98]

Naslund - Forsberg - Sundin
D. Sedin - H. Sedin - Zetterberg
U. Nilsson - Hedberg - Loob
K. Nilsson - Tumba - Mats Naslund

Salming - Lidstrom
E. Karlsson - Hedman
Samuelsson - L.E. Sjoberg

Lundqvist
Lindbergh

Honourable Mentions: Markus Naslund, Daniel Alfredsson, Nicklas Backstrom, Niklas Kronwall, Kenny Jonsson, Tommy Salo

 

[The Panther]

Assuming he can avoid injury (his Achilles' Heel), I think Tomas Sandström deserves a spot here.

Dude had a wicked slapper, very much akin to Robitaille's release, which caught goalies out of position (sort of like Sakic's wrist shot). His first PPG season was in 1986-87, when he led the Rangers with 40 goals in only 64 games, and his last PPG season was with the Pens in 1995-96, when he got 70 points in only 58 games. I point this out because it's significant that he could produce big numbers over a ten-year period in the NHL.

Unfortunately, we never saw his full-season stats because he was made of paper (despite this, he played with a lot of grit). Consequently, we're left with "what if's" for some of his most productive seasons.

In 1986-87, he was on pace for 50 goals and 93 points, but didn't play the full season (yeah, it was the 80s, but Gretzky-aside, the top scoring player that year had 107 points).

With the Kings in 1990-91, he was on pace for 53 goals and 105 points, but didn't play the full season.

With the Kings in 1992-93, he was on pace for 54 goals and 112 points, but didn't play the full season.

And with the Pens in 1995-96, he was on pace for 49 goals and 99 points, but didn't play the full season.

So, if we're talking about a cleaner style of hockey, like today, he'd be on my All-Time Swede team.

 

[sr edler]

But technically born in Stockholm. So he was Swedish-born. How are we determining who qualifies as "Swedish player" or not? Honest question.

Where someone is born isn't that big of a deal. Juha Widing was born in Finland, but of Swedish parents, grew up in Gothenburg or somewhere on the Swedish west coast and represented Sweden internationally.

Sure Nyström is Swedish but the family left for Canada when he was 4. Hardly a Swedish hockey player.

 

[tony d]

Good thread idea:

Markus Naslund-Forsberg-Alfredsson
D.Sedin-H.Sedin-Sundin
Zetterberg-Steen-Gustafsson
Dahlen-Backstrom-Loob

Lidstrom-Salming
Karlsson-Olausson
Johansson-Kronwall

Lundqvist
Salo

 

[Namba 17]

Markus Naslund - Peter Forsberg - Sundin
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Tomas Sandstrom
Zetterberg - Hedberg - Ulf Nilsson
Sven Tumba - Nicklas Backstrom - Alfredsson

Lidstrom - Karlsson
Salming - Svedberg
Hedman - Ulf Samuelsson

Lundqvist
Lindmark

 

[crobro]

The Gilbert Perrault of Sweden Thomas Gradin

 

[Iron Mike Sharpe]

Markus Naslund - Peter Forsberg - Tomas Sandstrom
Kent Nilsson - Ulf Nilsson - Anders Hedberg
Henrik Zetterberg - Mats Sundin - Daniel Alfredsson
Daniel Sedin - Henrik Sedin - Hakan Loob

Nicklas Lidstrom - Stefan Persson
Borje Salming - Mattias Ohlund
Lars-Erik Sjoberg - Ulf Samuelsson

Henrik Lundqvist - Pelle Lindbergh

Mats Naslund - Bengt-Ake Gustafsson
Victor Hedman

 

[Plural]

Any team without Curt "Kurre" Lindsrtöm as it's head coach is terribly flawed.

 

[Eye of Ra]

There is NO doubt that Victor Hedman must be on a all-time team. He earned it.

The swedish-d is a no-brainer:

Nicklas Lidström - Kenny Jönsson
Victor Hedman - Erik Karlsson
? - Börje Salming

All of them are lcoks. But the last man is up to debate.

 

[Passchendaele]

who does kenta beat out. he is not better than forsberg, sundin, sedin, bäckström/zetterberg

Nilsson was better than at least half these players..

 

[johan f]

Kent beats out D Sedin. Easily.

The Swedes playing in 70-80s were much better than stats shows because of a total different type of hockey and coaches did not adapt anything from Europe. Put D Sedin in 1975 and he would score less than Inge Hammarström.

In my allstar team i would pick vast majority from 70/80s. Patrik Sundström and T Gradin would be superstars in todays NHL.

 

[Sentinel]

The difference between the team on paper and the team on ice is Tomas Holmstrom. He MUST be on the latter.

 

[Eye of Ra]

The difference between the team on paper and the team on ice is Tomas Holmstrom. He MUST be on the latter.

why him and not hornqvist?