Taylor Chorney or Brian Lee?

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  1. Cerebral

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    I'm curious to see who people think is currently the better defenceman between the two. I've always thought Brian Lee was far better but it appears that Chorney is playing ahead of him in the American WJC lineup (paired with Erik Johnson) and a few North Dakota fans have mentioned that Chorney has been the team's best defenceman all year long. Any thoughts on the two? Who is better now and who has better long-term potential? Any thoughts on current NHL comparisons for the two players? I've heard Leetch's name connected a lot with Lee and I've heard a few people mention Leopold in reference to Chorney.
     
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    Most teams don't put their best 2 defenseman on the same pairing. Pronger never played with McCinness or with Niedermyer, Redden never played with Chara, etc. So I wouldn't use that as a judge
     
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    Understandable, but I believe the American pairings are shaping out like this:

    E. Johnson-Chorney
    Lawson-J. Johnson
    Zimmerman-Lee

    Johnson and Johnson are the two best American defenders so Lee is playing on the third pairing (unless the Americans are really trying to spread out their defensive depth).

    In any event, that wasn't even what really sparked the question in my mind. More so, a number of North Dakota fans have mentioned that Chorney has been a decent amount better (and more consistent) than Lee this season which struck me as odd given Lee's pedigree. I'm curious to see what others think (especially those who have seen the two play - I've only seen Chorney and Lee play once outside of the WJCs).
     
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    I think it's pretty obvious the U.S. brass is trying to spread out it's defensive depth, which is why Lee is on the "third" pairing (although I don't think anyone involved with the team would frame it that way). As for Chorney/Lee, I would say Chorney has been more consistent this year, but I don't think that matters all that much when it comes to projecting their roles in the NHL.
     
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    I've had my last name butchered a lot, but never has anybody done quite the number on it that you just did. Congratulations.
     
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    Chorney was just named the captain of the American squad. :yo:
     
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    I agree on all accounts.

    From the few games that I have seen, Chorney has been more consistent although Lee has occasionally made my jaw drop. Lee was drafted on upside and it is clear that his upside is still very much a reachable goal, currently he is not as NHL ready as some of the other defencemen of his draft class but the goal of drafting someone in the top 10 by a team that had Stanley Cup expectations is not to make the team as quickely as possible but to have the greater impact when he does make his way to the NHL. Chorney is the more polished defender at this point in time but there is no doubt that Lee is the better prospect.
     
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    That's the sense that I've been getting from people who have seen the two play. Is Jordan Leopold a reasonable comparison for Taylor Chorney?
     
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    From what I've seen this year, Lee has Chorney beat in size and in his shot, just about everything else is in Chorney's corner right now. At last years WJC's, IMO Lee was clearly better, this year, it's the opposite. It doesn't mean much for NHL potential, but the fact that they are the same age, and are on the same team, IMO should account for something substantial when comparing the 2.
     
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    I haven't seen either of them play yet this year, but last year I would have said Lee. Good to hear Chorney is playing well though.
     
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    i'd actually give chorney the nod when it comes to his shot. he's got a pretty decent cannon and can pick corners fairly well for a defensemen. lee is an excellent passer and definitely will be a stud in the nhl.

    right now, chorney is better, mainly because he is more solid when it comes to defensive positioning. lee will be better overall, because he hasn't really stepped it up from last year. once he does, then the sky is the ceiling for that kid. both have the potential to be top pair defensemen in the nhl.
     
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    brian lee > taylor chorney

    brian lee is the next wade redden i think...chroney is still very good and solid, but Brian Lee is just that much better and more promising
     
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    Ill let you know after the WJCs..Lee has been pretty average to below average when i've watched him....I want to see how much he's improved first.
     
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    Just wanted to bump this thread after the WJC's. Chorney, IMO, was the better player throughout the tournament hands down. He contributed more offensively, was steady defensively, and captained the team to a medal.
     
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    Ottawa shouldn't have pick it Staal way over Lee at the 05' Draft IMO.
     
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    In all honesty, Lee wasn't really put in a situation where he could succeed. He was playing his off-side and got no power play time at all, which surprised me.

    Chorney played very well though.
     
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    in my opinion lee is overrated, and soft. yeah he can be good offensively and on the powerplay, but he isnt that good at either to warrant being a soft defenseman. i think chorney is very smooth and doesnt make many mistakes. hes better offensively then lee too. he isnt very physical, but his skating a positional play somewhat make up for that.
     
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    when you get the fortune to pick at number 10 when you should really be picking in the mid 20's and you have the depth and expectations of a team like ottawa, you can afford to pass on the safe pick like staal and you try to hit a home run with brian lee. he may end up only ever being a project but we ottawa fans have learned to trust our scouting team and wait patiently.
     
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    Lee has all the tools, but he doesn't have that "command presence" on the ice yet. It's frustrating watching someone so talented be so passive.

    Chorney stepped it up big time from last year. Solid in all areas.....but has really (from what I gather) shown a lot of leadership ability.
     
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    Lee was one of the American players who really didn't make much of an impression. He was make his third WJC start, hence I expected him to be a much more of a prominent player. I also think he was the only US d who left the tournament as a minus.

    Chorney on the other hand made the most of his oppurtunity. Behind the Johnsons, he was the best d on the American team. Great puck movement and some really smart plays to set up Erik on the power play.
     
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    agreed. heres how id rank the defensemen from the tournament

    1. erik johnson
    1 a. jack johnson
    3. chorney
    4. lawson
    5. zimmerman
    6. lee
    7. mcbain
     
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    i watch both of these guys every weekend being a sioux fan. chorney has passed lee up as a overall better d man. he was not far behind to begin with but lee's high draft status autmatically made it that way. lee is very good as well but has lacked being physical pretty much night in and out. i know its not a huge part of his game but a little is needed. chorney has a nice shot, lee only seems to wrist shots but gets many assists doing it. that doesnt bother me but there is time for a one timer or slap shots depending on the situation. both will be good nhl d men but i say chorney will be a bit ahead of lee in a few years when they are in the show.

    follow both players here for any news and updates
    http://siouxsports.com/forums/index.php?showforum=1

    http://siouxsports.com/hockey.php
     
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