Trade: [STL/MIA] Marcell Ozuna for Sandy Alcantara, Magneuris Sierra, Zac Gallen and Daniel Castano

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[bleedblue1223]

Nice, wonder what the cost is.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Has to be one of the Cards top young SP prospects +++.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Saw a tweet from Joel Sherman indicating it's looking to be an MLB outfielder and pitching prospect. I'm guessing Alcantara and Grichuk.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Saw a tweet from Joel Sherman indicating it's looking to be an MLB outfielder and pitching prospect. I'm guessing Alcantara and Grichuk.

Makes the most sense. Grichuk can come in and play, and he isn't all that different from Ozuna before he broke-out into the player he is now. Alcantara is high risk, high reward.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Makes the most sense. Grichuk can come in and play, and he isn't all that different from Ozuna before he broke-out into the player he is now. Alcantara is high risk, high reward.

If that truly is the return, it's pretty underwhelming from the Marlins perspective. Wouldn't complain in the slightest as a Cards fan though.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Bob Knightengale just now: "The Marlins will receive more valuable prospects in stlcards trade than Stanton and Gordon trades combined with package of pitchers and position player."

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Seems like its going to be 2 of Alcantara/Hudson/Flahery and 1 of Grichuk/Piscotty

 

[bleedblue1223]

Hopefully we can hold onto Flaherty, but with the amount of pitching prospects we have, who cares, we filled a huge need.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

I could stomach Alcantara and Hudson, but I'd pretty upset if it's both Flaherty and Hudson.

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

This seems surprising if Flaherty or Hudson is not involved.

 

[Terry Yake]

there's got to be more than just alcantara and someone like grichuk/piscotty involved

hudson would be my guess. maybe sierra?

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Yeah at this point I'm thinking Alcantara, Hudson, and Grichuk. If it is, I'll be sad to see Hudson go. I really like him. And Alcantara was a bullpen candidate for us this year. Bet that means we'll be pushing hard for Colome then.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

The roster player is probably going to be Grichuk because it seems the Cards and A's are close to a deal for Piscotty.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Alcantara has uber potential, so Miami probably values him highly. They also really liked Bader, and since we have Bader, Sierra, and O'Neill, maybe there is something there as well.

 

[bleedblue1223]

The roster player is probably going to be Grichuk because it seems the Cards and A's are close to a deal for Piscotty.

Disappointing, I really think Piscotty is going to bounce back in a strong way.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Disappointing, I really think Piscotty is going to bounce back in a strong way.

Agreed. I don't want to trade him. I wonder whether Pham can keep up the level he played at. I can't imaging that Piscotty couldn't have been severely impacted by his mom's diagnosis. But if we do move him, I'm glad it looks like we're sending him to the west coast. That's a classy move.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

^ Yea seems like another sell low similar to Diaz.

That leaves an OF of Fowler-Ozuna-Pham with Martinez and Sierra/Bader backing up. Unless they have something else up their sleeve.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

I wonder if the plan may be to clear out both Piscotty and Grichuck so O'Neill can be the fourth outfielder. He's capable of playing all three outfield positions, so finding him at-bats shouldn't be overly difficult if he hits. I know he gets compared to Grichuk a lot but I think he should end up being a better player. O'Neill walks at a non-insignificantly higher rate than Grichuk.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Yeah, with Sierra, Bader, and O'Neill, we have plenty of young OF needing time.

I'm just skeptical on Pham, he has trouble staying healthy and will he be able to repeat what he did last season.

 

[bleedblue1223]

^ Yea seems like another sell low similar to Diaz.

That leaves an OF of Fowler-Ozuna-Pham with Martinez and Sierra/Bader backing up. Unless they have something else up their sleeve.

Eh, Diaz legitimately sucks. He definitely over-achieved, and if he's not hitting, he's not helping.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

I don't expect him to repeat what he did last year, even if he stays healthy. I'm expecting somewhere around an 800 OPS. Still really solid numbers with his defense, but not like last year. As usual, the question is if he stays healthy.

 

[bluesfan94]

Agreed. I don't want to trade him. I wonder whether Pham can keep up the level he played at. I can't imaging that Piscotty couldn't have been severely impacted by his mom's diagnosis. But if we do move him, I'm glad it looks like we're sending him to the west coast. That's a classy move.

My guess is that the two are connected. I bet the cardinals would rather keep him but feel like this is the right thing to do and can get some value.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Alcantara+3 other prospects according to Nightengale.

 

[Vladys Gumption]

Joel Sherman seems to think Alcantara is the centerpiece. If that's the case I would imagine that means Hicks and Flaherty are staying put.