Still no1? Despite serious surgery and no pre season Karlsson’s once again leading all D-men in ppg

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Still no 1 D in the NHL?

  1. Yes

    31.8%
  2. No

    33.0%
  3. Not this season, will bounce back though

    35.2%
  1. Ben White

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    Serious foot injury
    Advanced surgery
    No pre season
    Physically not even close to his normal self

    Yet, leading all Dmen in points per game

    Is he still the best D in the NHL?
     
  2. The S5

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    No, he is the best defenseman at scoring. He is a bad defender. You need some of both to be considered the best.
     
  3. Spirit of 67

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    Nope. He's bee awful defensively.

    Points don't make you the best defender.
     
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    He got more offensive talent in his fingertip than half the league but his two-way game has been a bit dodgy since coming back from surgery the games I’ve seen with him. He’ll probably get back into shape all around eventually.
     
  5. KoozNetsOff 92

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    He has earned the benefit of the doubt for one "off" season.
     
  6. Holymakinaw

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    He's a great forward, for sure.
     
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    Not this season but overall and going forward? Yes.
     
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    Looks like he's back to no2, must not be the best anymore.
     
  9. joe dirte

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    still??? never was in the first place.
     
  10. joe dirte

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    it's always been dodgy.
     
  11. bobholly39

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    voted option 3.

    yes I still call him the best defenseman. He 100% gets the benefit of the doubt for one off year, and anyone who disagrees simply doesn't understand hockey. But he's certainly not been the best this year, so option 3 makes more sense than option 1 for me. Surprised option 3 has least votes.
     
  12. triggrman

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  13. HailMcJesus

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    Original
     
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  14. LeafGrief

    LeafGrief Nylander will be a C

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    If his defense hasn't been good this year, then he hasn't been the best defenseman in the league. He was the best defenseman in the league last year though, 100%. I'd put my money on him being the best defenseman in the league next year too.
     
  15. Vali Maki Sushi

    Vali Maki Sushi Brady Tkachuk will be a bust.

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    Karlsson has some of the best suppression stats in the entire league and that's while lodging insane minutes. For those that bring up his goals against, there are five other players on the same team on the ice most of the time. Besides Ekholm, Spurgeon, Slavin, etc. who are well known as "shutdown Dman" also have noticeably poor goals against metrics as well. What does that say about them?
     
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    I sort of agree, however his defense always relied more on his speed than his offense. The exact same thing happened after his achilles tendon, he still scored points but his defense got much worse. He played his best D in 2013 (and offense) pre injury. Last year, 4 years after that injury, he finally found a way to play (almost) as good with lesser speed at both ends of the ice, this new foot injury was really unfortunate.
     
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    Disagree. Better than most other offensive dmen over the years.
     
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    Yeah, he is.
     
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    Ek is and has been the best defenseman in the nhl for years now
     
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    Do you think he was the best defenseman 1 year ago?

    If so - if you think he shouldn't be called the best anymore - I maintain you don't understand hockey. Track record/grace period is a thing. Give him the benefit of the doubt at least until next year, as he's earned it. Similar to how it's ok to call Crosby the best player in the world today even with somewhat of an off year, similar to how it's ok to have called Ovechkin the best goal-scorer in the world last year despite an off season.

    If you don't think he was the best defenseman 1 year ago well....that's fine, different story
     
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    If he bounces back next year he’ll be back in the #3 spot, behind Doughty and Hedman
     
  23. Vali Maki Sushi

    Vali Maki Sushi Brady Tkachuk will be a bust.

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    If he bounces back, Hedman is the only arguable player that's ahead of him.
     
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    That’s, like, your opinion man
     
  25. LiasAndersson

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    Prove it with numbers and/or breakdown of his gameplay. I'll wait.
     

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