Soviet players points/goals/MVP top finishes

[Namba 17]

RW:

1. Makarov
Soviet League
Points: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 8
Goals: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 6, 7
MVP: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4
AST: 10
WC/OG
Points: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 6, 8
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 6, 8, 9
The best forward: 2
AST: 8

2. Mikhailov
Soviet League
Points: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5, 7
MVP: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8
AST: 7
WC/OG
Points: 1, 2, 2, 2, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Goals: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8
The best forward: 2
AST: 2

3. Balderis
Soviet League
Points: 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 6, 7, 9, 10
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 6, 8, 8, 8, 9
MVP: 1, 5
AST: 1
WC/OG
Points: 6, 7, 9
Goals: 1, 6, 8
The best forward: 1
AST: 1

4. Shalimov
Soviet League
Points: 1, 3, 4, 6, 6, 7, 7
Goals: 1, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9
MVP: 3, 4
AST: 2
WC/OG
Points: 1, 2, 3
Goals: 1, 1, 2
The best forward: 1
AST: 0

4. Vikulov
Soviet League
Points: 1, 3, 4, 10, 10
Goals: 1, 5, 5, 9, 9, 10
MVP: 2, 3, 4
AST: 3
WC/OG
Points: 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 7
Goals: 1, 3, 3, 3, 5, 6
The best forward: 0
AST: 2

5. Loktev
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 2, 4, 5, 5
MVP: NA
AST: 5
WC/OG
Points: 1, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9
Goals: 2, 2, 5, 5, 7, 9
The best forward: 1
AST: 2

6. Drozdetsky
Soviet League
Points: 3, 3, 6, 9, 10
Goals: 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
MVP: 1
AST: 1
WC/OG
Points: 3, 4, 6
Goals: 1, 8, 8
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

7. Prirodin
Soviet League
Points: 2, 6, 8, 9
Goals: 1, 4, 6, 8
MVP: no top-5 votes
AST: 0
WC/OG - no top-10 finishes
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

8. Martyniuk
Soviet League
Points: NA for the most part of his career. After they were introduced: 2, 4, 8
Goals: 2, 3, 3, 4, 8, 10
MVP: NA
AST: 0
WC/OG:
Points: 3
Goals: 4
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

9. Lebedev
Soviet League
Points: 3, 8, 9
Goals: 3, 5, 8, 10
MVP: No top-5 votes
AST: 0
WC/OG - no top-10 finishes
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

10. Skvortsov
Soviet League
Points: 4, 7, 9
Goals: 6, 6, 9
MVP: No top-5 votes
AST: 0
WC/OG - no top-10 finishes
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

11. Belousov
Soviet League
Points: 4, 5, 7
Goals: 6, 7, 10
MVP: No top-5 votes
AST: 0
WC/OG - no top-10 finishes
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

12. Babich
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 5, 7, 9
MVP: NA
AST: 9
WC/OG - no top-10 finishes
The best forward: 0
AST: NA

13. Zimin
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 3, 4
MVP: NA for the most part of his career. After it was introduced: 4.
AST: 0
WC/OG no top-10 finishes
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

In different years there were different amount of AST - sometimes there were 3 ASTs, more often it was only one. Here is listed 1-st AST only (so far).

Tbc

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[MaxV]

Drozdetsky and Zimin are both "what could have been" cases. High but brief peaks.

 

[Namba 17]

LW

1. Krutov
Soviet League
Points: 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 8
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 7, 8
MVP: 1, 2, 2, 3, 3, 5
AST: 7
WC/OG
Points: 1, 2, 2, 7, 9
Goals: 1, 1, 3, 5, 6
The best forward: 2
AST: 4

2. Firsov
Soviet League:
Points: NA for the most part of his career. After they were introduced: 10
Goals: 1, 2, 2, 4, 5, 8, 9
MVP: NA for some time of his career. After it was introduced: 1, 1, 1.
AST: 5
WC/OG
Points: 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, 7, 7
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 1, 7, 8, 9
The best forward: 3
AST: 5

3. Kharlamov
Soviet League
Points: 1, 2, 5, 5, 7, 11
Goals: 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 9, 12, 12
MVP: 1, 1, 2, 2, 4, 4, 5, 5
AST: 7
WC/OG
Points: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 7
Goals: 1, 2, 2, 4, 4, 4, 6, 6, 8, 8
The best forward: 1
AST: 3

4. V. Aleksandrov
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4
MVP: NA
AST: 4
WC/OG
Points: 1, 4, 6, 8, 8, 9
Goals: 2, 4, 8, 9, 10, 13
The best forward: 0
AST: 2

5. A.Yakushev
Soviet League
Points: NA for some time of his career. After they were introduced: 2, 3, 12
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 4, 5, 11
MVP: 3, 4, 5
AST: 1
WC/OG
Points: 3, 3, 4, 5, 8
Goals: 1, 2, 3, 6, 6
The best forward: 1
AST: 2

6. Bobrov
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3
MVP: NA
AST: 8
WC/OG
Points: 3, 3
Goals: 1, 1
The best forward: 1
AST: NA

7. B. Mayorov
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 9
MVP: NA
AST: 3
WC/OG
Points: 1, 3, 10
Goals: 2, 2, 8
The best forward: 1
AST: 1

8. Kapustin
Soviet League
Points: 2, 4, 8
Goals: 2, 4, 6
MVP: 3
AST: 1
WC/OG
Points: 3, 4, 8
Goals: 2, 6, 10
The best forward: 0
AST: 2

9. A. Golikov
Soviet League
Points: 4, 6, 8, 8
Goals: 2, 4, 5, 6
MVP: Never top-5
WC/OG
AST: 1
Points: 4, 4
Goals: 2, 6
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

10. Viktor Tsyplakov
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1, 4, 6, 7, 10
MVP: NA
AST: 0
WC/OG:
Never top-10 goals/points
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

11. Bodunov
Soviet League
Points: 4, 6, 7
Goals: 3, 3, 4
MVP: Never top-5
AST: 0
WC/OG
Points: 6
Goals: 6
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

12. V. Yakushev
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1
MVP: NA
AST: 2
WC/OG
Points: 3, 4, 4
Goals: 2, 5, 4
The best forward: 0
AST: 1

In different years there were different amount of AST - sometimes there were 3 ASTs, more often it was only one. Here is listed 1-st AST only (so far).

tbc

 

[Staniowski]

What about Khomutov?

 

[Namba 17]

What about Khomutov?

I'll add his stats later. Can't find them in my notebook, probably, I'll need to gather them once more

 

[JackSlater]

Good thread, I'm quite interested in these results.

 

[VanIslander]

Getting rid of the noise:

RW:

1. Makarov
Soviet League
Points: 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1,
Goals: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3
MVP: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
WC/OG
Points: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 3
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 3

2. Mikhailov
Soviet League
Points: 2, 2, 3, 3
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3
MVP: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2
WC/OG
Points: 1, 2, 2, 2
Goals: 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3

3. Balderis
Soviet League
Points: 1, 1, 2, 3
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
MVP: 1
WC/OG
Points:
Goals: 1,

4. Shalimov
Soviet League
Points: 1, 3
Goals: 1, 3
MVP:
WC/OG
Points: 1, 2, 3
Goals: 1, 1, 2

4. Vikulov
Soviet League
Points: 1, 3
Goals: 1
MVP: 2
WC/OG
Points: 2, 3
Goals: 1, 3, 3, 3

5. Loktev
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 2
MVP: NA
WC/OG
Points: 1
Goals: 2, 2

6. Drozdetsky
Soviet League
Points: 3, 3
Goals: 2, 3
MVP: 1
WC/OG
Points: 3
Goals: 1

7. Prirodin
Soviet League
Points: 2
Goals: 1
MVP: no top-5 votes
WC/OG - no top-10 finishes

8. Martyniuk
Soviet League
Points: NA for the most part of his career. After they were introduced: 2
Goals: 2, 3, 3
MVP: NA
WC/OG:
Points: 3
Goals:

9. Lebedev
Soviet League
Points: 3
Goals: 3
MVP: No top-5 votes
WC/OG - no top-10 finishes

13. Zimin
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 3
MVP: NA for the most part of his career. After it was introduced: 4.

DELETE Skvortsov, Belousov, Babich from the discussion.

 

[Namba 17]

Getting rid of the noise:

DELETE Skvortsov, Belousov, Babich from the discussion.

Why?

 

[VanIslander]

Why?

Because if you are talking about the offensive production of right wingers, then their totals are insignificant, hence irrelevant to the particular discussion.

I like Skvortsov and Babich, having profiled them in depth drafts on the all-time draft subboard before. But in terms of all-time great offensive production, they didn't have significant years relative to the others on the list.

Notice how I edited out each player's 8th, 10th, 16th in scoring type stat. If we're looking at the all-time great offensive years of Soviet players, those three had none by the stats listed.

 

[Canadiens1958]

Because if you are talking about the offensive production of right wingers, then their totals are insignificant, hence irrelevant to the particular discussion.

I like Skvortsov and Babich, having profiled them in depth drafts on the all-time draft subboard before. But in terms of all-time great offensive production, they didn't have significant years relative to the others on the list.

Notice how I edited out each player's 8th, 10th, 16th in scoring type stat. If we're looking at the all-time great offensive years of Soviet players, those three had none by the stats listed.

Valuable context and seasonal variance is provided by the noise players.

 

[MaxV]

Guys from Babich era are tough to judge, aren't they?

Neither Assist totals nor MVP awards were tracked.

 

[Namba 17]

Because if you are talking about the offensive production of right wingers, then their totals are insignificant, hence irrelevant to the particular discussion.

I like Skvortsov and Babich, having profiled them in depth drafts on the all-time draft subboard before. But in terms of all-time great offensive production, they didn't have significant years relative to the others on the list.

Notice how I edited out each player's 8th, 10th, 16th in scoring type stat. If we're looking at the all-time great offensive years of Soviet players, those three had none by the stats listed.

My aim is to provide an information about Soviet players. I'll gather it in one thread and everybody who is interested can find it here. I believe, there is so need to limit information artificially.

 

[Namba 17]

C:
1. Petrov
Soviet League
Points: NA for at least two years of his career. After they were introduced:
1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 10
Goals: 1, 1, 2, 4, 5, 5, 6, 6, 8, 10
MVP: 2, 2, 4, 5
AST: 4
WC/OG
Points: 1, 1, 1, 2, 4, 8
Goals: 1, 2, 3, 6, 9, 11
The best forward: 0
AST: 4

2. Starshinov
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5
MVP: NA for the most part of his career. After it was introduced: 2, 3, 3
AST: 8
WC/OG
Points: 3, 6, 6, 9, 9, 9
Goals: 1, 1, 3, 4, 9, 9
The best forward: 1
AST: 0

3. Maltsev
Soviet League
Points: 1, 2, 3, 3, 7, 11
Goals: 2, 2, 2, 4, 7, 10
MVP: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4
AST: 7
WC/OG
Points: 1, 1, 3, 3, 3, 9, 9, 10
Goals: 1, 2, 4, 5, 5, 7, 9, 10
The best forward: 3
AST: 5

4. Larionov
Soviet League
Points: 2, 2, 3, 5, 5, 9, 10
Goals: 4, 4, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10
MVP: 1, 4, 4
AST: 4
WC/OG
Points: 2, 3, 4, 5
Goals: 4, 6, 6, 9
The best forward: 0
AST: 2

5. Almetov
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1, 2, 2, 3, 4, 5
MVP: NA
AST: 3
WC/OG
Points: 2, 3, 3, 7
Goals: 2, 3, 4, 5
The best forward: 0
AST: 2

6. Shadrin
Soviet League
Points: 4
Goals: 3
MVP: never top-5
AST: 0
WC/OG
Points: 1, 7, 8
Goals: 1, 5, 9
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

7. Bykov
Soviet League
Points: 4, 4, 6, 7, 10
Goals: 3, 6, 8, 9, 9
MVP: 2, 3, 5
AST: 1
WC/OG
Points: 4, 5, 6, 7
Goals: 2, 3, 5, 8
The best forward: 0
AST: 1

8. Guryshev
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 3 4, 4, 8
MVP: NA
AST: 4
WC/OG
Points: never top-10
Goals: 5, 7
The best forward: 0
AST: NA

9. Kozevnikov
Soviet League
Points: 2, 2, 5, 6
Goals: 1, 2, 3, 4
MVP: 5
AST: 0
WC/OG
Never top-10
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

10. Shepelev
Soviet League
Points: 8, 9, 9
Goals: 5, 5, 8
MVP: never top-5
AST: 0
WC/OG
Points: 9
Goals: 3
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

11. V.Golikov
Soviet League
Points: 4
Goals: 7
MVP: never top-5
AST: 0
WC/OG
Points: 5, 8
Goals: 5, 9
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

12. Shuvalov
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1, 2, 2, 2, 4, 5, 10
MVP: NA
AST: 5
WC/OG never top-10
The best forward: 0
AST: NA

13. Zluktov
Soviet League
Points: 5, 10
Goals: 4, 11
MVP: never top-5
AST: 0
WC/OG: never top-10
The best forward: 0
AST: 0

14. Groshev
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1, 7
MVP: NA
AST: 3
WC/OG: never top-10
The best forward: 0
AST: NA

15. Grebennikov
Soviet League
Points: NA
Goals: 1, 4, 4, 5, 8
MVP: NA
AST: 0
WC/OG: never top-10
The best forward: 0
AST: NA

In different years there were different amount of AST - sometimes there were 3 ASTs, more often it was only one. Here is listed 1-st AST only (so far).

tbc

 

[Namba 17]

In case of you find a mistake - you know what to do

 

[Namba 17]

Soviet League amount of 1st ASTs selections is added.

 

[VMBM]

So Maltsev is #3 among centers... based on what stat or criterion? Or is it just personal preference?

Don't want to get into a massive debate about Maltsev again, but I'm curious...

 

[Namba 17]

So Maltsev is #3 among centers... based on what stat or criterion? Or is it just personal preference?

Don't want to get into a massive debate about Maltsev again, but I'm curious...

Here is an order I listed Soviet players in my "top-XXX" non-NA players threads.
Personal preferences.

 

[Namba 17]

The amount of "the best forward of the WC" awards received is added.
Note. There were no AST or "the best player" awards on OG until 1998.

 

[Theokritos]

Note. There were no AST or "the best player" awards on OG until 1998.

Except in 1964 and 1968.

 

[Namba 17]

Except in 1964 and 1968.

It were WC awards

 

[VMBM]

Kharlamov was never named the Best Forward at the WHCs. Your source(s) probably refers to the 1976 World Championship, but it's wrong; Vladimir Martinec was IIHF Directorate Best Forward there.

I don't like to name any online source, since they so often have errors, and I don't know which would be the most reliable one, but I can name at least two Finnish hockey books that have Martinec winning the award:
Suuri jääkiekkoteos 1 (different authors)
Leijonapolku - jääkiekon maailma 2014 (Kimmo Leinonen)

No biggie, and I'm sure there is contradictory information out there, but I'm 100 % sure about this.

 

[Namba 17]

1-st AST of WCs added.
There were no ATS on OG until 1992, that's why I didn't count it.

 

[Namba 17]

Kharlamov was never named the Best Forward at the WHCs. Your source(s) probably refers to the 1976 World Championship, but it's wrong; Vladimir Martinec was IIHF Directorate Best Forward there.

I don't like to name any online source, since they so often have errors, and I don't know which would be the most reliable one, but I can name at least two Finnish hockey books that have Martinec winning the award:
Suuri jääkiekkoteos 1 (different authors)
Leijonapolku - jääkiekon maailma 2014 (Kimmo Leinonen)

No biggie, and I'm sure there is contradictory information out there, but I'm 100 % sure about this.

Thanks!
Interesting.
Here: Championnats du monde 1976 de hockey sur glace
and here: Лучшие игроки Чемпионатов Мира по Хоккею с шайбой Kharlamos is named the best WC F.
The same in Czech Wiki: Mistrovství světa v ledním hokeji 1976 – Wikipedie

 

[Namba 17]

I'll try to find more info about the best F on WC-1976

 

[Theokritos]

It were WC awards

Yes, that's correct.