Movies: Solo: A Star Wars Story, 25 May 2018 Release (Early reviews are in)

[HanSolo]

Well ****.

This is a really REALLY bad look for Disney/Lucas

 

[Jumptheshark]

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Rogue one reshot the last half of the movie and it worked out

 

[RobBrown4PM]

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Rogue one reshot the last half of the movie and it worked out

It was a ****ing mess of a movie.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I never really saw how a 21 jump street-esque Star Wars movie was gonna work anyways so this is fine with me

Also am I the only one that think the Jump Street movies aren't really all that great?

 

[XX]

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Rogue one reshot the last half of the movie and it worked out

Money wise, yeah. Creatively? No.

 

[Seedtype]

Ugh, I hope Episode 8 is good and Disney is just being too controlling with the side movies...

 

[KallioWeHardlyKnewYe]

I never really saw how a 21 jump street-esque Star Wars movie was gonna work anyways so this is fine with me

Also am I the only one that think the Jump Street movies aren't really all that great?

The timing of this decision certainly seems like bad news regardless of how you feel about Miller-Lord.

That said, I agree that I never thought they were a great choice. I've enjoyed their movies, but they strike me as two guys who can string together a few funny pop culture gags and that's about it ...

 

[ArGarBarGar]

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Rogue one reshot the last half of the movie and it worked out

Observation.

Rogue One is not a very good movie.

 

[third man in]

The timing of this decision certainly seems like bad news regardless of how you feel about Miller-Lord.

That said, I agree that I never thought they were a great choice. I've enjoyed their movies, but they strike me as two guys who can string together a few funny pop culture gags and that's about it ...

From the reports Kasdan wasn't happy with how Han Solo was being portrayed.

 

[Naych_PHX]

Get rid of Kathleen Kennedy. Jesus.

I didn't think this was a good idea for a movie anyways.

 

[Jussi]

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Rogue one reshot the last half of the movie and it worked out

Also Ant-Man turned out just fine, though the director was changed much earlier.

 

[Fugazy]

Not a good look for this movie

 

[sigma six]

Disney was supposed to destroy the ****** Star Wars movies, not join them

No idea why Lucasfilm couldn't just let these guys make it their way. Not every SW film needs to have exactly the same look and feel, some snarky humor may have made this particular film feel right at home. Bugs me when the execs overrule the creative.

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

No idea why Lucasfilm couldn't just let these guys make it their way. Not every SW film needs to have exactly the same look and feel, some snarky humor may have made this particular film feel right at home. Bugs me when the execs overrule the creative.

Exactly. Say what you will about Lord/Miller, but this level of interference from execs is almost never a good thing. Let the people with the actual talent do their thing and just sit back and count your money.

 

[Mount Suribachi]

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/s...phil-lord-christopher-miller-exit-1202473743/

That website is cancer. 2 full page ads to click past just to get to the article. Another one halfway down the article.

It was a ****ing mess of a movie.

Best Star Wars movie of them all IMO, absolutely loved it. Different strokes eh?

 

[Blender]

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Rogue one reshot the last half of the movie and it worked out

No it didn't. That movie is mediocre at best.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Disney was supposed to destroy the ****** Star Wars movies, not join them

 

[kingsholygrail]

These aren't low-grossing Oscar movies. They only exist to make lots of money and so far, Disney has been 100% correct with their decisions. People love these movies. Contrarian internet denizens that want everything to be Kubrick are non-factors.

 

[RandV]

Well ****.

This is a really REALLY bad look for Disney/Lucas

For movie buffs sure but I'd think in the broader picture it's barely a blip on the radar. Sounds like the exec involved here has been around for at least Rogue One (?) and it turned out okay.

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

A Disney film is being majorly re-filmed in post production?

Color me shocked.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

A Disney film is being majorly re-filmed in post production?

Color me shocked.

Nice avatar change!

 

[Kurtz]

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/star-wars-han-solo-kathleen-kennedy-director-fired-1202473919/


Kathleen Kennedy appears to being the driving force behind the decision, and the thread title should be updated to reflect that Lord/Miller were fired. So stupid, I kind of hope this sucks now.

Sounds like the co-directors wanted to turn Han Solo into Starlord, whereas the writer wanted to preserve more of the original Harrison Ford feel.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...y-han-solo-movie-directors-were-fired-1015474

Sources tell The Hollywood Reporter that the style and vision of Lord and Miller clashed with that of Lawrence Kasdan, the legendary screenwriter behind the classics Empire Strikes Back and ‪Raiders of the Lost Ark, who also wrote, with his son, Jon Kasdan, the script for the Han Solo stand-alone set (for now) to be released in 2018.

Lord and Miller (21 Jump Street, The Lego Movie) have a comedic sensibility and improvisational style while Kasdan favors a strict adherence to the written word — what is on the page is what must be shot.

The creative clash, according to one insider, also came down to differences in understanding the character of Han Solo. “People need to understand that Han Solo is not a comedic personality. He’s sarcastic and selfish,†said that source.

 

[XX]

It's cover for Kasdan because his son helped write this movie and Lord/Miller like to improvise and go off script.

 

[MadDevil]

It just seems odd to me the film would get this far into production before they realized they had "creative differences" that were too much to deal with. Did Lord and Miller not lay out their plans for the character, or did they change their minds midstream? Did Lucasfilm change their minds on the direction they wanted to go? It just seems like this is something that should have been hashed out before they got this far into shooting the thing.

 

[beowulf]

Could be the biggest movie yet to use Alan Smithee as director credit. Also creates a big issue for residuals etc.

At the heart of the matter is the guild’s protection of directors’ rights. The DGA has a strict rule which prohibits replacing the director with someone else from the film’s team except for a brief emergency. It's designed to discourage producers from forcing out a helmer and taking over a picture. And it means that despite speculation that veteran writer-director Lawrence Kasdan, an executive producer on the film who has written the new screenplay with his son Jon Kasdan, could step in to direct, such a move would violate the DGA rule.

But once a new helmer comes aboard — Ron Howard and Joe Johnston are among the names being mentioned — a new question will arise: Who will get the finished film's directing credit?

That’s tough. Presumably, Lucasfilm would prefer that the new director receive credit and will argue that his (or her) vision is the one that predominates in the ultimate film. But Lord and Miller signed on two years ago, and have been shooting since February, with only a few weeks of principal photography left. That gives them a strong claim to credit.

But complicating the matter is the vital role that postproduction plays in a big effects-laden film — and that will all be overseen by the new director.

The DGA doesn’t much like multiple directors to begin with: “There will be only one Director assigned to direct a motion picture at any given time,” says the guild's “one director” rule. But waivers are possible, and increasingly common — especially in the case of established directing teams. Still, it would be a stretch for the DGA to approve three directors' names on a film.

And there's a further twist: While the Writers Guild of America has elaborate rules and even an appeals procedure for credit disputes, the DGA doesn’t.

Instead, the rule is simply this: The DGA decides, and everyone is bound by that decision.