Discussion in 'NHL Draft - Prospects' started by gorrillaunit18, Jul 24, 2004.
Do you think robbie shremp should have gone higher in the draft than what he did?
Oboiusly. Schremp is the most offesnsively gifted player in the draft behind Ovechkin and Malkin. I really do hate his cocky attitude but he's a pretty damn good player.
Yes but he didn't go that low for nothing...Bad attitude, cocky player and more...
It's enough IMO.
Freaky Habs Fan-Bad attitude base on what? A few overhyped stories? Oh no we can't have cocky players in the NHL these days. Kovalchuk, Roenick, Messier. The list goes on and on.
Small, not a speedster.
They take attitude in account alot today, as they should and Schremps attitude just isn't great. I can see him being another trouble making superstar in the NHL, moving from team to team because of bad relationships with coaches, owernership ect. but who knows maybe he'll mature a bit. Though theres no dought he is extremely skilled!
When your coach sits you on the bench in the final game of a playoff series, there is a major problem. It is still a team sport, even though the personality cult aspect sells a lot of tickets. The coach obviously thought the team was better without Schremp on the ice, than they were with him on the ice. That is very damning.
Magician with the puck and that's about it. Under 6', not fast my any means, shy in traffic and high maintenance. Won't make the show.
So Jason Spezza is a major problem? Or Joni Pitkanen? Both were sat in important games. Bottom line, Schremp should have gone top ten.
Could it be a problem with the coach?
And how did Shremp react to it? Did you hear any complaining? I didn't.
You're comparing the NHL playoffs to the OHL playoffs?
I think being sat in the nhl when you are 20 is different than being sat in juniors when you are the most talented player on either team. Spezza and pit canon are just a little green when it comes to the stanley playoffs. Schremp could have gone top ten, but he could, and this is more likely, be like the sedins, not to fast tons of skill, and a few good reasons that keep them from being great nhlers like you want out of a top ten pick.
What are some examples of this attitude? He explained the trade demand, he's very confident, his teammates love him, and he lives and breathes hockey. I still haven't really seen incidents involving this massive attitude problem he supposedly has.
When a 5'11' 200 pound player is considered small (for a prospect to boot), today's scouts (or wannabe scouts) really need to readjust their priorities.
Should he have gone higher? Without a doubt.
iii) Plays a very soft game, avoids as much physical contact as he possibly can.
iv) Can't score 5 on 5.
v) Isn't in great shape.
vi) Didn't improve much from last year.
Then last but not least. Thought of to be the most talented player in the draft outside of Ovechkin and Malkin. That's really where it matters. Physical stature can be worked on. Defense can be tought. Schremp's not any less physical than St. Louis, who if I remember is even smaller.
It's nice for you guys to throw out all of the negatives, but don't forget about the positives.
St. Louis pays the price all the time. And he's got the wheels to make up for his lack of size.
I never said he didn't. There is a difference between playing physical and paying the price. Wouldn't you agree that a less physical player pays the price more often than a more physical player?
I originally said he was soft and avoids physical contact, usually that entails a fear to pay the price and unwillingness to play in high traffic arears (hence his lack of even strength productions), things St. Louis will do and than some. If Schremp is affraid to go into a corner with Jordan Smith or Boris Valabik what makes you think he'll do it against Robyn Regehr or Chris Pronger?
He's really not as soft as some here tend to think. I guess we'll all see in a few years though.
No, you implied it.
I'm not going by what "some here tend to think". I'm giving my opinion based on what I've seen.
People are making too big a deal about his demand for trade from a team when he couldn't stand the team's owner due to some issues between his brother and the team owner. All of his teammates said that he was not a problem so thats good enough for me to say he isn't a problem.