Should The Jets Sign Stastny - for How Much $$-Poll

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Should We Sign Stastny ? -if Yes -For How Much, and How Long ? -he's 32 yrs old

  1. Yes, but for no more that $ 4.5 mil over 3 years

  2. Yes, but the top price should be $ 5 mil obver 3 years

  3. Yes, and we should give him $ 6mil over 3 years

  4. Yes, and we should sign him for $ 5 mil over 5 years

  5. Yes, buit for 1 year only at $ 5 mil tops

  6. No, don't sign him, he's to old, and was just a rental

  7. No, we should develop a young guy like Roslo or someone else

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  1. one other person

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    Could def happen. That’s a lot of eggs in one basket tho...
     
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    Those 4 players currently account for roughly 20M AAV, so there is some flexibility if there is a will. Keep in mind also that:
    -backup goalies are cheap now that Helle is our #1
    -Niku may be ready as early as next season and so Kulikov could also be moved
    -Wheeler might also be talking to Stastny about how they can both be affordable next year
    -Pate and Niki might be talking to each other and eventually to Chevy about how much they like Stastny. That could translate into certain other compromises.

    The most likely scenario is that he simply a rental. But nothing is carved in stone and it is heavily dependent on how the rest of this (post) season unfolds.
     
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    That's just not true. There are plenty of winger who carry and have carried lines. Iginla never had a really good center.
    Selänne had his best seasons with Steve Rucchin. In 2000-2001 when Bure scored 59 goals and 92 points the #2 in his team had 37 points. West Coast Express was carried by Näslund. Patrik Kane carries his lines. Ovechkin had two stellar seasons before Backstrom came in to the league. Tarasenko had his best season with Lehterä. Gaudreau is the man in Calgary. Blake Wheeler drives his line. I could go on and on.

    I hate this more important position nonsense. It's a team game and chemistry is important. The only things the wingers can't really compensate for is faceoffs, but if you are close to 50 you are good to go. At the end of the day the only thing that matters is who scored more goals. You don't get extra intangible points, if a center scores instead on wingers.
     
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    I would love to but unless he signs for free I just don't see it working out in the Jets favour.
     
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    Sign him.

    1)Trade Mason if you can (obviously).

    2)Trade Lowry cause he'll make too much for a 4C. The return would also be helpful.

    3)Replace Enstrom with a drastically cheaper Enstrom or with Niku.

    Two of those three would be more than enough action for this summer.
     
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    In that case I wish we could trade Little and keep Lowry as our 3 c but can't with Little's deal.
     
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    This is where spending big money on an okay #6 D man comes back to bite you. If they could move the whole 3rd pair, keeping Stastny wouldn't be as much of a challenge.

    Niku - Poolman might be better than Kuli - Myers too.
     
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    It is a bit of a long shot but it could happen under the right circumstances. The only chance would require a long cup run this spring. Either a cup win or within sniffing distance convinces players and Chevy to go all in on the short term. Then you can start getting creative. Chevy looks at bridge deals for RFA's and vet players agree to short term contracts to squeeze it all in. This is an unlikely scenario so I'm not holding out hope.
     
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    If Toby returns, I suspect it will be on a team friendly deal. I'd look to move Kuli and/or Myers. Little brings more value than either of them and he's harder to replace.
     
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    But it has helped but us be in a now win position which isn't nothing. Both those contracts are movable if you are willing to compromise a bit on return.
     
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    Not disagreeing with the "win now" comment, but the reality is that they really only needed a few months of Kuli - if they needed him at all. I don't think we'd be looking at drastically different result if Poolman was playing.

    Myers should be tradable - and he makes a ton of sense to trade, but Kuli is just an okay #6. I'm not sure that his deal would appeal to many.
     
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    I'd sign him short term for cheap, three years, $7M the first year, $2M the second year, $2M the third year.
     
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    But I would lean towards not signing him, because Roslovic might be ready to play 2C between Ehlers and Laine, and you could even put Laine on the first line and Connor with Ehlers and Roslovic.
     
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    I think the Jets needed to sign a guy like Kulikov. We went too long with sub NHL level bottom pairing that it was worth paying the UFA premium to stabilize our defense. And there are worse defenseman making more. I do believe there is a very real chance the Jets move out some salary on defense and allocate it elsewhere with Niku and Poolman in the wings.
     
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    Connor $0.925M - Scheifele $6.125M - Wheeler $5.6M
    Ehlers $6M - Stastny $5M - Laine $0.925M
    Perreault $4.125M - Little $5.29M - Roslovic $0.894M
    Copp $1M - Lowry $3M - Tanev $1M
    Lemieux $0.839M

    Morrissey $5M - Trouba $6M
    Enstrom $2.5M - Byfuglien $7.6M
    Niku $0.775M - Kulikov $4.33M
    Chiarot $1.4M
    Poolman $1.4M

    Hellebuyck $6M
    Comrie $1M

    Stuart (buyout cap hit): $0.583M

    Myers and Mason are gone.

    Stastny is $5M x 3
    Lowry is $3M x 5
    Morrissey is $5M x 6
    Trouba is $6M x 8
    Enstrom is $2.5M x 2
    Hellebuyck is $6M x 6
    Poolman is $1.4M x 2 (Chiarot's deal)
    Comrie is $1M x 1 (placeholder backup)

    Cap Ceiling: $80,000,000
    Cap hit: $77,316,665
    Bonuses: $4,095,000
    Space: $2,683,335

    If all the bonuses hit, there's a $1.41M penalty against the Jets cap the following year.

    If the Cap Ceiling in $83M in 2019-20 the Jets will have $16.4M in space to sign Laine, Connor, Wheeler, Copp an 8th D, a 13th F and a backup goalie. They can move a contract to make more room.
     
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    Only sign him if we can shed Little in a trade.
     
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    allan5oh Has prospect fever

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    Myers could be moved - think ottawa with his $3 million salary and $5.5 million cap hit especially if they move Karlsson - but it would be very hard to move Mason. Your numbers are fairly reasonable. The upper limit might be from 80 to 82 million. The Jets will do whatever it takes to avoid a bonus overage. They could be adding ~$11 million the following year between Laine and Wheeler. There's no way we can afford a bonus overage.

    There's not enough cushion though. We've had 27 or 28 players on roster at times due to injuries. Even if they go the retain Stastny and move Myers and Mason route, I doubt Enstrom stays.
     
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    Worse defenseman making more...

    That's a bizarre cop out that's really got nothing to do with anything.

    My point was that there is obvious risk in giving sizable dollars and term to a player who's upside is your #6D.

    A few months later, we're already seeing the impact.
     
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    Don't get your hopes up. He's going to the highest bidder.
     
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    all this " we don't have enough money"

    can you prove it please?

    maybe for fun I'll some how try to do it myself, but I also need market value/jets opinion to my own/also trying to tho k how Chevy would make it work

    seems the jets business wanted to not just establish themselves as a money talks first, but being loyal and friendly to each other, like being a family where players don't just get move until it's gotten to the point that its time to do ala evander kane

    don't over player any players . and take some out

    I can't see buff being able to fit here forever and we could probably get some nice assets for him if he keeps playing this way
     
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    Sure trade a D man that makes the team better....let's sign Myers while we are at it.
     
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    If Jets win a cup

    Stastny signs a short term contract :)
     
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    Genuine question - Do you think Kulikov has negative value?
     
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    You should work for the Jets , just reading all those numbers made my brain hurt . :laugh:
     
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    He is a rental. Too many teams out there who are desperate for a quality centre so Paul is getting overpaid this summer.

    Love his game though.
     

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