Should the Blackhawks go all in this year?

Creativero

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The Hawks are currently on a 7 game losing streak(god willing, it will be 8 in a row if they can hang on 5 more minutes) and only 6 points of 4th place. With the cap situation they probably need a new star on an ELC to replace the value they lost with Hossa if they want another cup with this core. They probably have the best roster their closest competitors. Why not cash in some of the more valuable now when theirs only 20 games and the fans have probably lost interest anyways? IMO the conventional wisdom of trying to dump Seabrook/Toews is pointless just because the return isn't going to be good enough to contend with. The cap situation will be better but the hockey team will be worse. If the Hawks want to go for another cup this might be their opportunity to do a 20 game re-build. I think you've just got to hope Toews/Seabrook start playing better and focuses offsetting their salaries with some more Hossa/Panarin style contracts. The Hossa contract is illegal now and Panarin was a once a decade type find. The standing/lottery odds/top prospects/roster are listed bellow. If they can manage to finish last out of the group below Chicago would have a 30% chance of a top 3 pick. If they can maintain their current form it just might be able to do it with some hard work and a little luck.

The thing is, Blackhawks fans, right now, Kane still got ability. But painful as it may be, ability don't last. And his days as an MVP caliber player are just about over. Now, that's a hard mother****ing fact of life. But it's a fact of life your ass is gonna have to get realistic about. So in conclusion, that is why I'd like to see the team go all in on a dirt cheap superstar if they plan on wining another cup this decade.
Are the guys at the top of the draft good enough to be impact players on their ELC?

Are there any obvious moves that can weaken the roster in the short term without doing much long term harm?

age GP W L OL PTS PTS % GF GA
22New York Rangers295727255590.518166175
23Florida Panthers27.25425236560.519158175
24Chicago Blackhawks285724258560.491160166
25Detroit Red Wings305523239550.5149166
26Montreal Canadiens27.95622277510.455144174
27Edmonton Oilers26.65523284500.455157184
28Vancouver Canucks27.95722296500.439150184
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1. Rasmus Dahlin, D, six-foot-two, 181 pounds (Frolunda, SHL): Kinda like Muhammad Ali in the day, the undisputed champ.

2. Filip Zadina, RW, six-foot, 196 pounds (Halifax Mooseheads, QMJHL): Started with little room to move, but the snipe show has transcended league play, international play and best-on-best at the Top Prospects game.

3. Andrei Svechnikov, RW, six-foot-two, 186 pounds (Barrie Colts, OHL): Big, strong and powerful — skating is smooth as silk. Game is less dynamic and more pro.

4. Brady Tkachuk, LW, six-foot-three, 196 pounds (Boston University, NCAA):World junior performance carries a lot of weight as do the bloodlines.

5. Adam Boqvist, D, five-foot-11, 168 pounds (Brynas Jr.): Game-changing offensive abilities where the feet and hands work well in concert.

15Artem AnisimovsuC296-4198L/-9May 24, 198814 G, 7 A, 21 P$5,000,0002006 NYR 2nd (54)
17Lance BoumacaLW276-2208R/-6March 25, 19903 G, 6 A, 9 P$1,000,0002008 CGY 3rd (78)
50Corey CrawfordcaG336-2216-/L10December 31, 198416-9-2, 2.27 GAA$6,000,0002003 CHI 2nd (52)
63Carl DahlstromseD236-4231L/-RJanuary 28, 19950 G, 0 A, 0 P$742,5002013 CHI 2nd (51)
12Alex DebrincatusRW205-7165R/-RDecember 18, 199721 G, 16 A, 37 P$742,5002016 CHI 2nd (39)
91Anthony DuclaircaLW225-11191L/-3August 26, 19952 G, 3 A, 5 P$1,200,0002013 NYR 3rd (80)
31Anton ForsbergseG256-3192-/L3November 27, 19925-10-3, 3.05 GAA$700,0002011 CBJ 7th (188)
56Erik GustafssonseD256-0176L/-1March 14, 19921 G, 2 A, 3 P$650,0002012 EDM 4th (93)
38Ryan HartmanusLW236-0181R/-3September 20, 19947 G, 15 A, 22 P$832,5002013 CHI 1st (30)
48Vinnie HinostrozausLW235-9173R/-2April 3, 19946 G, 9 A, 15 P$817,5002012 CHI 6th (169)
13Tomas JurcocsLW256-2188L/-4December 28, 19920 G, 1 A, 1 P$800,0002011 DET 2nd (35)
64David KampfczC236-2195L/-RJanuary 12, 19952 G, 4 A, 6 P$925,000
88Patrick KaneusRW295-11177L/-10November 19, 198821 G, 32 A, 53 P$13,800,0002007 CHI 1st (1)
2Duncan KeithcaD346-1192L/-12July 16, 19830 G, 25 A, 25 P$5,000,0002002 CHI 2nd (54)
6Michal KempnycsD276-0194L/-1September 8, 19901 G, 5 A, 6 P$900,000
5Connor MurphyusD246-4212R/-4March 26, 19931 G, 8 A, 9 P$4,600,0002011 PHX 1st (20)
82Jordan OesterleusD256-0182L/-3June 25, 19923 G, 8 A, 11 P$650,000
44Jan RuttacsD276-3200R/-RJuly 29, 19905 G, 12 A, 17 P$925,000
20Brandon SaadusLW256-1206L/-6October 27, 199213 G, 11 A, 24 P$6,250,0002011 CHI 2nd (43)
8Nick SchmaltzusLW216-0177R/-1February 23, 199615 G, 24 A, 39 P$925,0002014 CHI 1st (20)
7Brent SeabrookcaD326-3220R/-12April 20, 19853 G, 14 A, 17 P$9,000,0002003 CHI 1st (14)
10Patrick SharpcaLW366-1200R/-14December 27, 19816 G, 8 A, 14 P$800,0002001 PHI 3rd (95)
19Jonathan Toews (C)caC296-2201L/-10April 29, 198815 G, 21 A, 36 P$13,800,0002006 CHI 1st (3)
57Tommy WingelsusRW296-0200R/-7April 12, 19887 G, 5 A, 12 P$750,0002008 SJS 6th (177)
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deytookerjaabs

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Getting a good pick is part of the puzzle.

IMO, we need at least 1 legit NHL top 4 D guy added, perhaps 1 more seasoned forward and a new coach with a fresh vision to light a fire under the "cores" ass. Meanwhile, keep the most of the rookies around if we can up the surrounding talent a hair.
 
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Bubba88

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Q won't be in on a tank and I think to stick it a bit to him you take Oesterle and trade him, trade Bouma and see if a contender has Need for a C and Anisimov. Give Q no other Chance than playing the Young guys, the guys he may not like.

I don't think Talent is the Problem, I think it's Focus and the System.
 

Enyaw

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Hawks need this guy ... but I would take that #1 Dman

4. Brady Tkachuk, LW, six-foot-three, 196 pounds (Boston University, NCAA):World junior performance carries a lot of weight as do the bloodlines.
 

crazyhawk

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Hawks need this guy ... but I would take that #1 Dman

4. Brady Tkachuk, LW, six-foot-three, 196 pounds (Boston University, NCAA):World junior performance carries a lot of weight as do the bloodlines.
This is the guy I have been wanting all along ... next to Dahlin I suppose.
We just haven't had a Tkachuk type for forever!
 
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LDF

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This is the guy I have been wanting all along ... next to Dahlin I suppose.
We just haven't had a Tkachuk type for forever!

Hawks need this guy ... but I would take that #1 Dman

4. Brady Tkachuk, LW, six-foot-three, 196 pounds (Boston University, NCAA):World junior performance carries a lot of weight as do the bloodlines.

i just wish i could jump on the bandwagon for Tkachuk. i think a power-forward kind of player is great, esp if he like the old school PF. but the teams needs are top pairing d-men, center and last a elite scoring forward.

now after that, then address the power-forward.
 

crazyhawk

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i just wish i could jump on the bandwagon for Tkachuk. i think a power-forward kind of player is great, esp if he like the old school PF. but the teams needs are top pairing d-men, center and last a elite scoring forward.

now after that, then address the power-forward.
Guess it's all comes down to where we end up picking and what is left at that point.
I like Tkachuk because of his intensity .. that kind of thing is contagious and can feed the teem and add up to a number of more victories in a season ... and especially come PO's!
We do need a bonifide top 2 D and top C though no doubt!!
 
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CokenoPepsi

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Go all in by trading Seabrook and Toews.

And I see no reason why Kane could be done as a potential mvp candidate.... The declines of Seabrook and Toews were obvious...not so much here
 

Robsker

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Go all in by trading Seabrook and Toews.

And I see no reason why Kane could be done as a potential mvp candidate.... The declines of Seabrook and Toews were obvious...not so much here

Right. Trade two of the least tradable guys in the NHL. Toews is likely the least tradable guy in the entire NHL --- no one else plays 6M below their contract level in the entire league. Impossible to trade him.

Seabs is in the next 4-5 or 6 least tradable guys in the league.

No one would take these guys --- we are stuck with them and their mammoth contracts for the duration. till then --- till they are off the books --- the Hawks will be much like they are now +/- very little.
 
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LDF

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Guess it's all comes down to where we end up picking and what is left at that point.
I like Tkachuk because of his intensity .. that kind of thing is contagious and can feed the teem and add up to a number of more victories in a season ... and especially come PO's!
We do need a bonifide top 2 D and top C though no doubt!!
excellent and i am in total agreement.
 

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