Should Orr have won more Harts?
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Big Phil
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Short answer yes. Long answer.............let's look at it
The three Harts Orr won are not very controversial. No doubt he's the winner in 1970 and 1972. In 1971 Esposito might have a case (he won the Pearson that year) since he scored an unheard of 76 goals but Orr had over 100 assists which was impossible at the time too. So most of us can admit he earned his Harts.
So let's look at the rest:
1967 - No way
1968 - too much missed time
1969 - Esposito had too heavy of a year and Orr wasn't "Orr" yet
1973 - Missed a little more time than usual and to be honest it could have easily gone to Esposito. Clarke wins it.
1974 - Were the voters rewarding Esposito? It isn't a crime that he won it, however, Orr was always season in season out the best player in the NHL
1975 - I have a hard time believing that if a defenseman today lead the NHL in scoring that anything else that a player did would trump it. In 1975 maybe it was old hat for Orr to score that many points and the voters chose Clarke instead since this was at the peak of the Broad Street Bullies and he led his team to 1st overall.
If I were doing the picking, I'd have said that he could have won another one in either 1974 or 1975.
The three Harts Orr won are not very controversial. No doubt he's the winner in 1970 and 1972. In 1971 Esposito might have a case (he won the Pearson that year) since he scored an unheard of 76 goals but Orr had over 100 assists which was impossible at the time too. So most of us can admit he earned his Harts.
So let's look at the rest:
1967 - No way
1968 - too much missed time
1969 - Esposito had too heavy of a year and Orr wasn't "Orr" yet
1973 - Missed a little more time than usual and to be honest it could have easily gone to Esposito. Clarke wins it.
1974 - Were the voters rewarding Esposito? It isn't a crime that he won it, however, Orr was always season in season out the best player in the NHL
1975 - I have a hard time believing that if a defenseman today lead the NHL in scoring that anything else that a player did would trump it. In 1975 maybe it was old hat for Orr to score that many points and the voters chose Clarke instead since this was at the peak of the Broad Street Bullies and he led his team to 1st overall.
If I were doing the picking, I'd have said that he could have won another one in either 1974 or 1975.
Canadiens1958
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The Clarke Harts
Bobby Clarke winning Hart Trophies during Bobby Orr's career is best summarized here:
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=900667
Simply whatever criteria is used to determine best, most impressive, highest scorer, etc does not produce a compelling argument for most valuable.
Bobby Clarke winning Hart Trophies during Bobby Orr's career is best summarized here:
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=900667
Simply whatever criteria is used to determine best, most impressive, highest scorer, etc does not produce a compelling argument for most valuable.
I would give Orr the award in both 1974 and 1975. It would have been his in 1973 too had he played the full season. Bobby Orr was basically steve nash with defense, giving esposito the award is like taking steve nash's mvps and handing it to amare stoudemire.
