Discussion in 'National Hockey League Talk' started by MR4, Apr 17, 2018.
Marchand, Subban, Mcavoy, Hedman, Perry.... so many questionable moments from one night.
Pretty damn reckless with his stick work tonight, the whole sum of his night isn't pretty. Having seen Kessel get 3 games for a similar baseball swing I kind of scratch my head now. It is playoffs though but Kessel did not have a history when it happened.
Either way just having watched that a bit on twitter/my phone earlier the frame rate was slower and I was like uh...did he swing??? If it did connect to Hyman's head though yeah that is definitely a rest of the series type suspension, maybe longer.
0, but he should have gotten a penalty on some of those plays
0 because nothing that you've shown me is suspendible. Marchand does enough stupid **** that is suspendible, and he'll probably do it at some point during the playoffs. This is literally the last player that you need to reach on like you have in this thread.
There is enough there to suspend him for 2 games. The problem is no single incident breaks the mark 1 game mark and the NHL doesn't hand out 1/2 or 3/4 game suspensions and tends to favour doubt when they feel like it. The stick swing, the swing on the way down from the hit and the baseball slide in particular deserve attention. I don't think he contacted seriously with one swing, and not at all with the other swing and the slide has too much "accidentally on purpose" doubt.
Definitely reckless. The swing at Reilly wasn’t great either, but the area he targeted (thigh?) wasn’t going to do any real damage. This play tho, if he had caught Hyman up high, could have been really bad. My first thought was Duncan Keith on Coyle a couple years ago:
Nazem? Is that you? Shouldn't you be laying low?
Yep. Half the reason Kadri got suspended is intent to injure. 2-handed slashes have already been shown to be worth 3 games in non-playoffs so worth 1 playoff game, and then there's trying to hit a goalie's head with the butt-end of your stick. Kadri largely missed contact, so did Marchand on the butt-end, I see no reason for this to not get 2 games or more if we're going by the Kadri standard.
Not at all. Two-handed slashes have already been shown to be suspension worthy. And that's only 1/4 plays shown.
How is this a reach? Honestly re-watch the intent to injure Andersen, realize it was using his stick to aim for a goalies head, and tell me that's not suspension worthy. And as said before, two-handed slashes are already proven to be suspension worthy.
nothing is even remotely close to a suspension.
Butt end? Intent to injure? Now that is some serious reaching. He doesn't even contact Andersen with his butt end, he contacts him with his glove and its completely obvious that he did it to annoy Andersen because he was getting cross checked in front of the net. You know the rat type of thing he does all the time getting in extra shots by trying to disguise them as him getting pushed or knocked into someone.
Yeah two handed slashes that are actually vicious with intent and better placement. He swung at his shin pad because Rielly cross checked him. And guess what, Rielly attempted to "two-handed slash" him as well.
This board really is turning into an asylum.
Rat doing ratty things, nothing to see here.
and Nasty Naz will be back... hopefully with an extra dash of nasty.
He's a *******. Doubt any comes out of it though.
And no doubt in my mind that tackle on Johnson was intended. He just does not get the benefit of the doubt considering his long history.
Looks to me like he was crosschecking the goalie not butt ending. It was a glove to the helmet, and not a particularly hard one. Classic "Oh no I've been crosschecked into the goalie" Pesty Rat 101 play from a rat but that's not a suspension.
Jesus stop whining. Nothing here comes close to a suspension
to me the johnsson one is 100% intentional
dirty as hell
All that talent... and still acts like a dirty goon.
I don't think he's that smart to turn every scenario into an accidental cheapshot. But if anyone can perfect it, Marchand is the guy.
If he doesn't get himself suspended and takes out players with plays like that, Marchand has more intangibles than Toews
Is it just me or is the primary contact on Hyman's hit on Marchand leg to knee?
Leafs are a bunch of wimps. Only fitting Marchand bullies them. Nobody but Kadri could stand up for themselves. Marchand wouldn’t do this to a team like Tampa, Columbus, Pittsburgh, or Philly. Actual teams that would make him pay for it. Or most from the West for that matter.
Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Van Riemsdyke, Reilly, etc. Bunch of softies.
League will not do anything about this POS... why do players not take matters into their own hands, is it because there are no enforcers left?
Surely a team could call someone up for a game or two, to take out this pest to the game of hockey we all love. nobody wants to see their favorite player injured by this sack of s***
The answer to "should Marchand be suspended" is always yes.
I get upset when I see guys skate a long way to deliver a headshot or take out someone’s knees. Those have to go. They can ruin careers and more. The rest just doesn’t register. These things Marchand does are generally cheap and irritating but - at least from what I’ve seen - not particularly threatening. I may be missing something but these hits that are being discussed here don’t seem like much. I even had a look at the Duclair hit and it wasn’t really - in itself - so bad. Bad result as Duclairs skate got stuck. But otherwise he just seems like an agitator extraordinaire.
Besides some leaf fans still upset about the Kadri suspension I'd say the general consensus is no, although he sure is playing on the line right now