Confirmed with Link: Sheldon Keefe Fired -- Discussion Thread

[mapleleaf979]

Boudreau isnt an option. He has pushover vibes. Mclellan seems too unhinged and cant handle media.

Berube has to be the top choice.

 

[Drytoast]

I'd go with Gallant or Berube.

 

[Tak7]

Fanduel was offering 2.40 for Berube being Leafs head coach, minutes after Friedman told Jeff Marek that he expected Berube would be the next Leafs coach.

Fair to say I threw a tidy sprinkle on it - if the Leafs are going to make a choice I don't like, might as well profit off of it.

Berube feels like Carlyle 2.0. The Dave Bolland of head coaches.

 

[AllHeartNoSkill]

if they can’t seriously upgrade the D and stabilize the goaltending; I’m not sure it’s going to matter who the coach is.

 

[SprDaVE]

 

[Trapper]

if they can’t seriously upgrade the D and stabilize the goaltending; I’m not sure it’s going to matter who the coach is.

I would be asking what the plans are with the goaltending and core before I commit to the job.

 

[Menzinger]

That's two meetings for Berube

 

[OVO16]

I find it very weird that he cant get an interview with anyone. His runs with the Rangers, Knights and Panthers were all pretty good

His style of play is also very similar to how Treliving wants it

That's two meetings for Berube

Pretty much a done deal at this point

 

[The Masters]

That's two meetings for Berube

Fanduel took off the odds for leafs next head coach. Looks like it its a done deal

 

[SprDaVE]

I find it very weird that he cant get an interview with anyone. His runs with the Rangers, Knights and Panthers were all pretty good

His style of play is also very similar to how Treliving wants it


Pretty much a done deal at this point

I think there are off-ice issues with him, mostly butts heads with management and players don't apparently like him. Many teams are passing on him for a reason.

That's two meetings for Berube

Yeah Berube is gonna be the guy. This is the Treliving smoke all over again.

 

[OVO16]

Berube is the type of coach Treliving likes. Hard and relentless forechecking and gritty style of play.

Which is whats needed in the playoffs and what Treliving alluded to in the press conference last week

 

[1specter]

Tbh, it is a little bizarre to me that Woodcroft doesn't seem to be getting any consideration or press as a candidate. I guess they want someone with a bit more pedigree / history, but Woodcroft did a good job in Edmonton and elevated the team's overall performance to at least be a consistent top team in the Pacific and really leaned into the strengths of the team (offense) instead of trying to force them to be something they weren't like Tippett and others before him. He brought respectability back to the team after they were sputtering out between 2017-2021 where they weren't even consistently making the playoffs and they played poorly when they did get there (e.g. Jets sweep in 2021). IMO he got the best he could've out of the group given their trash D and goaltending - he got the Oilers to the WCF with a 40 yr old Mike Smith in net and a D that had Nurse, the corpse of Duncan Keith, Barrie, Ceci, rookie Bouchard and Kulak as its main playoff group.

Given the way this team is built and its PP woes I would think Woodcroft could actually get some good results.

 

[OVO16]

I find it hilarious the Sens wanted Berube and he said "Nah, Im gonna wait"

 

[KaN19]

Treliving was the biggest name on the GM market last summer and we hired him without conducting a real search. We're doing the same now with Berube for the head coaching position.

This organization isn't looking to hit home runs anymore. We're going for the safe veteran hires.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Berube is the type of coach Treliving likes. Hard and relentless forechecking and gritty style of play.

Which is whats needed in the playoffs and what Treliving alluded to in the press conference last week

Who in core 4 plays gritty style of game? Unless Tre can get Marner to waive, you can just flush next season regardless.

 

[OVO16]

Who in core 4 plays gritty style of game? Unless Tre can get Marner to waive, you can just flush next season regardless.

Hence why there are discussions/rumors that the core 4 will be broken up this off-season

And if somehow all 4 comes back again next season, I expect the players to play differently

 

[Leaf Fans]

Treliving was the biggest name on the GM market last summer and we hired him without conducting a real search. We're doing the same now with Berube for the head coaching position.

This organization isn't looking to hit home runs anymore. We're going for the safe veteran hires.

How can you be sure they are not conducting a real search?

 

[hamzarocks]

we have 20 million again and young talent coming up... let's see what Brad can do...

20M isnt much when the core 4 is 20M overpaid come playoff time

 

[Suntouchable13]

20M isnt much when the core 4 is 20M overpaid come playoff time

Forget the 20M, his first priority should be to convince Marner to waive.

 

[Clark4Ever]

I find it hilarious the Sens wanted Berube and he said "Nah, Im gonna wait"

Wouldn't you do the same thing?

 

[TheDoldrums]

this guy is going to be a culture shock lol

 

[notbias]

20M isnt much when the core 4 is 20M overpaid come playoff time

20M doesn't change in value because of what others are paid, I am just stating what he has to work with.

It isn't like his signings outplayed their contracts... for example, he signed Bertuzzi to $5.5 million and he was a $3 million player in the playoffs.

 

[Evilhomer]

Treliving was the biggest name on the GM market last summer and we hired him without conducting a real search. We're doing the same now with Berube for the head coaching position.

This organization isn't looking to hit home runs anymore. We're going for the safe veteran hires.

It's like MLSE has turned into a bunch of middle managers hiring a law firm. Don't worry about skill, expertise or cost. Discard proper diligence and just hire the biggest name available, so that if things go off the rails you can proclaim that it wasn't your fault because you hired the best available.

 

[notbias]

It's like MLSE has turned into a bunch of middle managers hiring a law firm. Don't worry about skill, expertise or cost. Discard proper diligence and just hire the biggest name available, so that if things go off the rails you can proclaim that it wasn't your fault because you hired the best available.

It was our free agent strategy too.

 

[hamzarocks]

20M doesn't change in value because of what others are paid, I am just stating what he has to work with.

It isn't like his signings outplayed their contracts... for example, he signed Bertuzzi to $5.5 million and he was a $3 million player in the playoffs.

I said this before and Ill say it again since you want to ignore Bertuzzi was one of the best players for the leafs this series

If bertuzzi with 4 pts in 7 games was a 3M player and 2.5M overpaid

Then big 4 were the below:

Matthews 4 in 5 was worth 7.7M and was 3.93M overpaid (0.8 /(4/7) * 5.5M

Marner 3 in 7 was worth 4.13M ((3/7)/(4/7) * 5.5) and was overpaid 6.8M

Tavares 2 in 7 was worth 2.75M (2/7)/(4/7)*5.5M) amd was overpaid 8.25M

Nylander had 3 in 5 was worth 7.2M and was about 200K underpaid (3/4)/(4/7)*5.5

Core 4 overpayment according to your view of bertuzzi being 2.5M overpaid at 5.5M were = 18.78M overpaid

That is the reason we lost the series. Cant win by paying a 20M group of 4 players 40M