Proposal: Sheary for Top4 LD

[MeinerEiner]

With the Pens' top9 likely beeing set Sheary seems to be the odd man out. So which top4 LDs are available in a trade for Sheary?

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[Hostile Offer]

Don't think GMs will be lining up to give up their top 4 LD for Sheary.

 

[Canucks1096]

Sheary is not worth a top 4 D

 

[MeinerEiner]

Sheary is not worth a top 4 D

Why do you think so? How about PIT adding a little+, not named Sprong?

 

[jay caufield forhead]

Why do you think so? How about PIT adding a little+, not named Sprong?

the pens have little left after not named sprong.

Sheary is worth a 2nd on a good day a 3rd on most others.

best bet is to trade sheary and hunwick an sign a solid ld

 

[Lunatik]

Why do you think so? How about PIT adding a little+, not named Sprong?

If you want a top 4 D for Sheary, I hate to break it to you, but Sprong would likely have to be that plus and even then, I'm not sure you land a good top 4 defenseman.

 

[MeinerEiner]

the pens have little left after not named sprong.

Sheary is worth a 2nd on a good day a 3rd on most others.

best bet is to trade sheary and hunwick an sign a solid ld

I think it is tougher to trade Hunwick than it is to trade Sheary.


I think Sheary has value to teams who want to get younger and faster. For example EDM, where he could play with McDavid, which wpuld be an insane fast and creative duo.

 

[MeinerEiner]

If you want a top 4 D for Sheary, I hate to break it to you, but Sprong would likely have to be that plus and even then, I'm not sure you land a good top 4 defenseman.

With trading Sprong you create a hole in the top9. Sprong is not available at all.

Nice nickname btw!

 

[Lunatik]

With trading Sprong you create a hole in the top9. Sprong is not available at all.

Nice nickname btw!

To be fair, any team trading a top 4 D would be creating a hole in their blueline; a significantly bigger hole than the one created by a rookie winger and Sheary.

 

[MeinerEiner]

To be fair, any team trading a top 4 D would be creating a hole in their blueline; a significantly bigger hole than the one created by a rookie winger and Sheary.

I guess this is how trading works, but a team which is pretty deep at D could move a top4 LD if scoring is needed. Maybe it's not a top4 by now but a #5 with upside. Pens are known for making players like Schultz, Niskanen and Oleksiak steady players, thanks to Gonchar.

 

[Lunatik]

I guess this is how trading works, but a team which is pretty deep at D could move a top4 LD if scoring is needed. Maybe it's not a top4 by now but a #5 with upside. Pens are known for making players like Schultz, Niskanen and Oleksiak steady players, thanks to Gonchar.

Very few teams can seamlessly trade a top 4 D though. I think the Flames could trade a top 4 D in Brodie this summer, in order to add some offense; but I'm not sure I'd even bite on Sheary + Sprong as the return because neither is a sure thing to produce.

 

[Hostile Offer]

I guess this is how trading works, but a team which is pretty deep at D could move a top4 LD if scoring is needed. Maybe it's not a top4 by now but a #5 with upside. Pens are known for making players like Schultz, Niskanen and Oleksiak steady players, thanks to Gonchar.

This gave me an idea. A 3-way trade:

- Pittsburgh acquires Mike Reilly + LA 4th round pick
- Edmonton acquires Conor Sheary
- Montreal acquires conditional EDM 2nd/3rd round pick, depending on Sheary's production next year.

Pens shed some salary and add a guy with still some tiny top 4 upside the Pens could realize, Habs get a pick upgrade (don't think Reilly is really needed here) and Oilers get their much needed depth scoring.

 

[Lunatik]

This gave me an idea. A 3-way trade:

- Pittsburgh acquires Mike Reilly + LA 4th round pick
- Edmonton acquires Conor Sheary
- Montreal acquires conditional EDM 2nd/3rd round pick, depending on Sheary's production next year.

Pens shed some salary and add a guy with still some tiny top 4 upside the Pens could realize, Habs get a pick upgrade (don't think Reilly is really needed here) and Oilers get their much needed depth scoring.

Since the Habs are kind of in a selling mode, wouldn't Jordie Benn make more sense to deal as he is 30? Something built around Benn and Sheary, then the Habs could flip Sheary for picks/prospects if they so choose.

 

[Hostile Offer]

Since the Habs are kind of in a selling mode, wouldn't Jordie Benn make more sense to deal as he is 30? Something built around Benn and Sheary, then the Habs could flip Sheary for picks/prospects if they so choose.

If the Pens are looking for someone with top 4 upside, Jordie Benn is as far from an answer as it gets.

 

[Captain Controversy]

sekera

 

[MeinerEiner]

This gave me an idea. A 3-way trade:

- Pittsburgh acquires Mike Reilly + LA 4th round pick
- Edmonton acquires Conor Sheary
- Montreal acquires conditional EDM 2nd/3rd round pick, depending on Sheary's production next year.

Pens shed some salary and add a guy with still some tiny top 4 upside the Pens could realize, Habs get a pick upgrade (don't think Reilly is really needed here) and Oilers get their much needed depth scoring.

Would you mind to give a scouting report on Mike Reilly?

 

[Hostile Offer]

Would you mind to give a scouting report on Mike Reilly?

He's an offensive dman. Can really skate and pass, good on the PP. Needs a lot of work defensively though so he needs to be sheltered 5-on-5 and I'm not sure if that's salvageable.

 

[BrettHullsToe]

Trade a 7th to Dallas for Hamhuis' rights and sign him before he hits free agency. Pens like ex-Stars defensemen, right?

 

[MeinerEiner]

He's an offensive dman. Can really skate and pass, good on the PP. Needs a lot of work defensively though so he needs to be sheltered 5-on-5 and I'm not sure if that's salvageable.

I like skatimg and passing but the Pens need a guy who can PK and is solid defensively.

 

[DRW204]

Sign CDH. Trade Sheary for picks.

 

[domaug]

Trade a 7th to Dallas for Hamhuis' rights and sign him before he hits free agency. Pens like ex-Stars defensemen, right?

they tried that for Hamhuis before. ended up trading his rights to the Flyers because he wouldn't sign with them.

much different situations now, of course, but it's interesting to hear this name again.

 

[domaug]

He's an offensive dman. Can really skate and pass, good on the PP. Needs a lot of work defensively though so he needs to be sheltered 5-on-5 and I'm not sure if that's salvageable.

meh, that doesn't work then for the Pens. they need a defensively strong D-man.

Sheary is probably only worth a 2nd or 3rd rounder plus a warm body.

 

[KingsHockey24]

Phaneuf is all yours.

 

[Empoleon8771]

This gave me an idea. A 3-way trade:

- Pittsburgh acquires Mike Reilly + LA 4th round pick
- Edmonton acquires Conor Sheary
- Montreal acquires conditional EDM 2nd/3rd round pick, depending on Sheary's production next year.

Pens shed some salary and add a guy with still some tiny top 4 upside the Pens could realize, Habs get a pick upgrade (don't think Reilly is really needed here) and Oilers get their much needed depth scoring.

This is pretty horrendous for the Penguins. Reilly sucks and that's a massive undersell for Sheary.

Sheary's value is a mid 2nd straight up, maybe a little bit higher. He's really underrated by Penguins fans on here because of how much he fell off from last season, but he still scores a good amount of goals at ES. He's a 3rd liner that produces like a 3rd liner and is paid like a 3rd liner. He could probably pull off a guy like Pysyk or Petrovic straight up.

 

[Toby Flenderson]

I like the idea of trying to sign CDH or Moore or Cole. Trading Sheary and Hunwick for picks is the best bet.