Value of: Shea Weber

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puckpilot

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Well, this thread went as expected.

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dirk41

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I'm quite certain if the Canadiens were to make Shea Weber available they would absolutely get a better return than William Nylander.

Are Shea Weber's seasons as a 33 to 40-year-old worth more than William Nylander's seasons as a 22 to 29-year-old (assuming a max-length contract is signed this off-season)?

How many great d-men are there over the age of 32? Dustin Byfuglien (33), Ryan Suter (33), Brent Burns (33), Mark Giordano (34), Duncan Keith (34), who is a stretch at this point. The only one significantly older is Zdeno Chara (41), who is a freak and probably not "great" at this point, except against the Leafs.


 

LEAFANFORLIFE23

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He may not be for sale but he's also not worth much, a guy coming off an injury that cost him almost 75% of the season, will be 33 before next season and has 8 more years at a 7.8 million dollar cap hit his value isn't high, not anymore
 

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Nylander is being held back in toronto. If he was given the drouin role in Montreal he'd be a perennial 70 pt center. I'll drive Weber to the airport!!!
 

Kudo Shinichi

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Are Shea Weber's seasons as a 33 to 40-year-old worth more than William Nylander's seasons as a 22 to 29-year-old (assuming a max-length contract is signed this off-season)?

How many great d-men are there over the age of 32? Dustin Byfuglien (33), Ryan Suter (33), Brent Burns (33), Mark Giordano (34), Duncan Keith (34), who is a stretch at this point. The only one significantly older is Zdeno Chara (41), who is a freak and probably not "great" at this point, except against the Leafs.

Yes because those players have a much more bigger impact than Nylander
 

Martin Skoula

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lol because a 1D stops being good at around 34 years old? Chara is 41 years old is still having a bigger impact than Nylander.

Yeah cause Weber had a 6'9 wingspan + stick to compensate for when he can't skate well anymore.
 

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Weber has negative value due to injuries and contract. In essence he would be a cap dump. If any gm gives up young assets they are morons.
 

dirk41

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lol because a 1D stops being good at around 34 years old? Chara is 41 years old is still having a bigger impact than Nylander.

The exception that proves the rule. Name all the other 1Ds over 34. . .
 

Spearmint Rhino

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The exception that proves the rule. Name all the other 1Ds over 34. . .
In the history of the NHL? Lots of great D played past that and played well. Big Buff and Burns are older than Shea but don't hear too much about them being useless. Shea's strengths are a big shot and positioning, that's not going to disappear
 

Baksfamous112

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Are Shea Weber's seasons as a 33 to 40-year-old worth more than William Nylander's seasons as a 22 to 29-year-old (assuming a max-length contract is signed this off-season)?

How many great d-men are there over the age of 32? Dustin Byfuglien (33), Ryan Suter (33), Brent Burns (33), Mark Giordano (34), Duncan Keith (34), who is a stretch at this point. The only one significantly older is Zdeno Chara (41), who is a freak and probably not "great" at this point, except against the Leafs.

If he keeps playing like he has been during the playoff it won’t be hard to outplay him. He’s been a ghost... a very soft ghost
 

ole ole

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1993. Both teams have been garbage in the past 25 years. (And before you say, oh 2 conference final appearances with the habs, that's not even close to up to their historical standards of winning cups.)
Not quite true.The Laffs have been garbage since 67 big difference.
 

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If he keeps playing like he has been during the playoff it won’t be hard to outplay him. He’s been a ghost... a very soft ghost

I don't know why folks think Nylander is soft. Many NHLer don't have great skills so its dump the puck in the corner. At least Nylander tries to make a play with the puck. What would the Leafs prefer that great Hab first rounder McCarron?
But these Weber to the Leafs are pretty pathetic. Can't Montreal fans think of any other teams that might want Weber in a trade? If Leaf fans say no, is there no other alternative for a Weber trade? Guess not, cause I rarely see one.
 

Kudo Shinichi

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The exception that proves the rule. Name all the other 1Ds over 34. . .

He doesn't need to be a 1D to be as important to a team as Nylander. Nylander is probably equivalent to a #3D.
Guys like Markov, Chara, Gonchar, Lidstrom, Pronger, Hamrlik, etc. were all still really good defenseman after the age of 34.
 

Baksfamous112

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I don't know why folks think Nylander is soft. Many NHLer don't have great skills so its dump the puck in the corner. At least Nylander tries to make a play with the puck. What would the Leafs prefer that great Hab first rounder McCarron?
But these Weber to the Leafs are pretty pathetic. Can't Montreal fans think of any other teams that might want Weber in a trade? If Leaf fans say no, is there no other alternative for a Weber trade? Guess not, cause I rarely see one.

We’re not looking to trade Weber. Not to Toronto or anywhere else so why would we want offers? You guys are the only one who doesn’t understand that he’s not for sale and keep making these threads (this one included)
 

dirk41

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He doesn't need to be a 1D to be as important to a team as Nylander. Nylander is probably equivalent to a #3D.
Guys like Markov, Chara, Gonchar, Lidstrom, Pronger, Hamrlik, etc. were all still really good defenseman after the age of 34.
So out of the ones in the NHL . . . Chara. Big list!
 
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