Player Discussion Shea Weber

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Miller Time

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Best news we've had in weeks.

Hopefully there aren't long term structural issues with his foot & he comes back next year benefitting from the 10 month break.

Says something about how low the franchise has sunk.
 

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Best news we've had in weeks.

Hopefully there aren't long term structural issues with his foot & he comes back next year benefitting from the 10 month break.

Says something about how low the franchise has sunk.
Agreed great news for the tank and gives Weber rest , his body has A LOT of miles on it . Hopefully he comes back next year refreshed .

However lol this gives MB his golden excuses lol

Anyone want to give a over under on how many times his end of year presser will mention Weber now
 

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Probably not good enough to make the post-season still. With Markov, Radulov and Sergachev though... probably.
Bubble team at best. But at least it wouldn't be the keystone cops in our own zone the way it's been.

I don't put Weber in the elite class of blueliners. He's limited in what he can do. But at the very least he's a steady presence and he's not a disaster in his own zone. And he's also got a great shot that we could desperately use.

At the end of the day though, he'd have made us a bubble team at best. This team is broken now and it's time to move on from this core.
 

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Bubble team at best. But at least it wouldn't be the keystone cops in our own zone the way it's been.

I don't put Weber in the elite class of blueliners. He's limited in what he can do. But at the very least he's a steady presence and he's not a disaster in his own zone. And he's also got a great shot that we could desperately use.

At the end of the day though, he'd have made us a bubble team at best. This team is broken now and it's time to move on from this core.


Fully agree
 

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I'm really starting to question how this team deals with injuries.

It took forever for Price to heal his knee. In 15-16, he played his last game on nov 25.. and he missed like last 20-22 weeks of the season.

Now Weber gets injured on the very first game of the season.. forces himself to play another 25 games.. and now he's been out for 2 months and potentially for the rest of the season.. How the hell did they let this happen. I'm no expert in foot injuries.. but I've never seen one that takes this long to recover. Especially if its not even broken. He obviously shouldn't have played those extra 25 games after his injury. Thank god we are not in position to make the playoffs.

It's not my money but it's a really bad way to invest in a player that Molson pay 12 millions this year.
 

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Seems this management cant really do anything right..
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As many posters have stated.. Marc will use the "injury" card to shea and the others to justify how we are nearly the last place team. He's done it before, he will do it again. Shea just gave him his golden ticket , his golden excuse for this failed season.

"yes I know we struggled to score, but when you are missing your No.1 Defensemen and No.1 Center (PD) you know, sometimes its just not good enough, answers are in the room"

I am going to be out of country and out of the habs for 3 weeks..... thank god. this team is toxic.
To which reporters should answer that the team struggled right out of the gate while those two were perfectly healthy.

I mean, honestly, it's so easy to counter any of the excuses he spews out. All we need is a journalist that isn't actually scared to do his job properly.
Journalist should be neutral, fine, but they should also call out BS when it's spewed out.
 

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I'm really starting to question how this team deals with injuries.

It took forever for Price to heal his knee. In 15-16, he played his last game on nov 25.. and he missed like last 20-22 weeks of the season.

Now Weber gets injured on the very first game of the season.. forces himself to play another 25 games.. and now he's been out for 2 months and potentially for the rest of the season.. How the hell did they let this happen. I'm no expert in foot injuries.. but I've never seen one that takes this long to recover. Especially if its not even broken. He obviously shouldn't have played those extra 25 games after his injury. Thank god we are not in position to make the playoffs.

It's not my money but it's a really bad way to invest in a player that Molson pay 12 millions this year.
I'd argue a fracture is simpler to deal with actually. A bone is broken, well, it's simple, put a cast around it and you let it heal for some weeks. That's all there is to it. How your muscles, tendons, ligaments around that injury get affected is the tricky part, and sometimes it can take long to fix.
Not defending this team. Just saying injuries are unpredictable.
 
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"My best players were hurt, or they weren't my best players on far too many occasions." It's a valid argument but not what fans want to hear.
2010 and 2011 teams were ravaged with injuries but they still made it.

Well constructed rosters don’t sink because of the loss of a couple of players.
 

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"My best players were hurt, or they weren't my best players on far too many occasions." It's a valid argument but not what fans want to hear.
"My best players don't come close to matching up to the competitions best players".

Habs lose games before the pucks drops.
 

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To which reporters should answer that the team struggled right out of the gate while those two were perfectly healthy.

I mean, honestly, it's so easy to counter any of the excuses he spews out. All we need is a journalist that isn't actually scared to do his job properly.
Journalist should be neutral, fine, but they should also call out BS when it's spewed out.

you are totally right... however I think it this situation its montreal who controls them??? so they aren't really going to bite the hand that feeds when their careers/family depend on it
 

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you are totally right... however I think it this situation its montreal who controls them??? so they aren't really going to bite the hand that feeds when their careers/family depend on it
The hand that feeds is their employers, so rds, tsn, whichever network they work for.
I think they're just bad at their job.
Even when they interview or analyze, they suck at it.
 
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The hand that feeds is their employers, so rds, tsn, whichever network they work for.
I think they're just bad at their job.
Even when they interview or analyze, they suck at it.

Yes but don't you think that if one of the reporters really sticks it to MB and makes him look like a fool on tv,radio etc(media) that he wouldn't get his hand slapped by the higher ups at RDS,TSN etc as they will get something from habs PR restricting access?

I won't disagree at all that they are truly awful :nod:
 

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Yes but don't you think that if one of the reporters really sticks it to MB and makes him look like a fool on tv,radio etc(media) that he wouldn't get his hand slapped by the higher ups at RDS,TSN etc as they will get something from habs PR restricting access?

I won't disagree at all that they are truly awful :nod:
Well I don't know, that's possible. But again, I think most of those guys are terrible journalists anyways.
 

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I'm really starting to question how this team deals with injuries.

It took forever for Price to heal his knee. In 15-16, he played his last game on nov 25.. and he missed like last 20-22 weeks of the season.

Now Weber gets injured on the very first game of the season.. forces himself to play another 25 games.. and now he's been out for 2 months and potentially for the rest of the season.. How the hell did they let this happen. I'm no expert in foot injuries.. but I've never seen one that takes this long to recover. Especially if its not even broken. He obviously shouldn't have played those extra 25 games after his injury. Thank god we are not in position to make the playoffs.

It's not my money but it's a really bad way to invest in a player that Molson pay 12 millions this year.

I’m not sure that they handled AG well last year either. I don’t think he was healed when he came back, and his mobility and speed were affected.

I think there was another injury or two in the foxhole season or before that, that was poorly managed. I’ve kind of deleted the memory bank. I seem to recall someone with a concussion coming back briefly and then being shut down again.
 

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Shea Weber will see a foot specialist later this week. Expected to have surgery this summer and is expected to miss the first few months of next season as per TSN radio.

At 33 Weber still has 9 years left on his contract.

Nice trade Bergevin.
 
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Shea Weber will see a foot specialist later this week. Expected to have surgery this summer and is expected to miss the first few months of next season as per TSN radio.

At 33 Weber still has 9 years left on his contract.

Nice trade Bergevin.

Actually he's currently 32 and there are 8 years left on the contract, the last three only paying $1mln per season. I'm not defending the trade, but there is no need to exaggerate the facts to argue against it.
 

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Reminds me of the Markov years. Give credit where it is due. Even without Markov for more than a year those teams withstood it and without Carey Price in his prime.

The GM built the team to withstand it and the team performed with adjustments by the coach. There were other notable injuries but they survived.

Weber's injury will be used as an excuse but a reporter with any ounce of savvy should be able to note the above.
 

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We cant forget that if Weber retires early , NSH is screwed lol really badly .

I am guessing the lockout in a 2020? (I forget the year lol) will fix that though or NHL will let someone pull a hossa on him .

On a seperate note i just thought that the SEA expansion may get sidelined with the lockout lolol or maybe the NHL caves a little so their two new teams dont get hit early . Would look bad to do 2 expansions then lockout lolol
 

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We cant forget that if Weber retires early , NSH is screwed lol really badly .

Nashville is not going to be penalized by recapture. The NHL let New Jersey off the hook for the blatant circumvention in the Kovalchuk contract, they aren't going to punish the Predators for matching an offer sheet 11 years in the past.

And I also don't think Weber's going to retire for those $1 million/year years. How many employment opportunities is he going to have to earn as much as $1 million/year after his hockey career is over? I can see him heading over to Robidas Island, but an outright retirement seems unlikely.
 
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