SEMIN: Unjust victim of a systematic process of intimidation, manipulation, and scape

[What the Faulk]

Negreanu is one of poker's biggest douches, and that's saying something. I'm pretty sure no one really likes him. I'll bet Semin cost him some money or something and he doesn't actually care about the game.

EDIT:

RealKidPoker
@grinder881 I'm the smartest person in the world. You are not. Listen don't speak. I can teach, but you have to clean those ears.

 

[DaveG]

Dunno, dude's Canadian IIRC. Probably got a bit too drunk and listened to Cherry and/or Milbury too much recently.

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

Who gives a damn about some random guy playing poker ?

 

[Novacane]

Mike The Mouth Matusow imo

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Mike The Mouth Matusow imo

Matusow is at least hilarious though, Hellmuth is a tool.

 

[What the Faulk]

Hellmuth is a condescending tool who gets mad when people make low percentage plays, ignoring the fact that that's exactly what you want them to do. You might lose a hand or three, but over the long haul, you'll win.

Kinda like "advanced" stats

Phil Laak will always be the best.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

My grandmother loves Negreanu. This is not a joke. My grandmother is awesome.

 

[Ole Gil]

Mistaking chip equity for prize pool equity is a pretty common misconception.

Advanced stats < Game theory.

We'll see hockey stats make that jump eventually.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

Has it really gotten to the point where we must vehemently defend Semin against poker player attacks?

 

[Joe McGrath]

I'm confused as to how anything the poker guy said isn't true. Is it not embarrassing that Semin makes $7 million and has zero goals to this point?

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I'm confused as to how anything the poker guy said isn't true. Is it not embarrassing that Semin makes $7 million and has zero goals to this point?

No way because of something rabble

 

[Novacane]

Matusow is at least hilarious though, Hellmuth is a tool.

I always liked Matusow. My favorite had to go to Hellmuth though. I thought he was hilarious with the different costumed enterances he would have. I also enjoyed Phil Ivey and Jesus Ferguson.

I supremely disliked Esfandiari and a few others I can't remember right now.

 

[What the Faulk]

Mistaking chip equity for prize pool equity is a pretty common misconception.

Advanced stats < Game theory.

We'll see hockey stats make that jump eventually.

Are you one of those guys who folds aces on the bubble because he wants to secure a 1.5x payout instead of a shot at winning?

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Are you one of those guys who folds aces on the bubble because he wants to secure a 1.5x payout instead of a shot at winning?

The button?

 

[What the Faulk]

I was thinking tournament rather than cash game since he was talking prize pool.

I don't really like playing cash games, except when Full Tilt had that Rush Poker or whatever it was called a few years ago. I'd almost only play pocket whatevers, hope for a set, and play big pots. 9/10 out of ten, I stacked the other guy. Totally worth it.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

I was thinking tournament rather than cash game since he was talking prize pool.

I don't really like playing cash games, except when Full Tilt had that Rush Poker or whatever it was called a few years ago. I'd almost only play pocket whatevers, hope for a set, and play big pots. 9/10 out of ten, I stacked the other guy. Totally worth it.

Oh ok, the bubble meaning on the cusp of getting into the money. Got it.

 

[Ole Gil]

I was thinking tournament rather than cash game since he was talking prize pool.

I don't really like playing cash games, except when Full Tilt had that Rush Poker or whatever it was called a few years ago. I'd almost only play pocket whatevers, hope for a set, and play big pots. 9/10 out of ten, I stacked the other guy. Totally worth it.

That 2nd paragraph seems like it should be a joke, but it doesn't appear to be.

But the original point, is that someone like Hellmuth would rather win a 100 chip pot 100% of the time than a 220 chip pot 50% of the time, particularly in the meat of a large tournament.

 

[Ole Gil]

This discussion may seem irrelevant, but games are games. And as the concept relates to hockey, advanced stats tend to measure Goals, not wins. Just like WTF is talking chips not money.

But goals aren't all created equal. 5 minutes left in the game, a team has a 1 goal lead.

The team with the lead scoring a goal doesn't increase it's likelihood of winning nearly as much as the team down a goal scoring one.

So a team with the lead would rather have a 40% chance of scoring the next goal that only gets scored 30% of the time, rather than 60% chance of scoring the next goal that gets scored 60% of the time.

This is the value a lot of higher scoring but low +/- players bring to the table. When you are down by one late or two anytime, increasing the likelihood of another goal can be just as if not more important than increasing the likelihood that goal will be scored by your team.

 

[What the Faulk]

"The only thing the prevent defense does is prevent wins"

 

[Wolfpuck]

On the Aftermath, Forslund just said that nobody in the local media has it out for Semin.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Who cares, dude? He doesn't have a single goal a quarter of the way through the season.

Sure, it was tired in game 6, but it's game 20+.

He's a dude making 7 million dollars a year to be a goal scorer and he has zero goals. It's a bad look. Maybe he's lazy, maybe he's still injured, maybe he's lost confidence, maybe he's homesick, maybe he's past it, maybe he's wrong for the system, maybe the baby is keeping him up at night, maybe he's questioning his sexuality, maybe he just misses his friend Andy Dufresne, or maybe he isn't smart enough to put his stick on the ice like Tripp says over and over and ****ing over.

Doesn't matter. Right now he is a spectacular bust, and there's no way or reason to defend him.

 

[Sens1Canes2]

Who cares, dude? He doesn't have a single goal a quarter of the way through the season.

Sure, it was tired in game 6, but it's game 20+.

He's a dude making 7 million dollars a year to be a goal scorer and he has zero goals. It's a bad look. Maybe he's lazy, maybe he's still injured, maybe he's lost confidence, maybe he's homesick, maybe he's past it, maybe he's wrong for the system, maybe the baby is keeping him up at night, maybe he's questioning his sexuality, maybe he just misses his friend Andy Dufresne, or maybe he isn't smart enough to put his stick on the ice like Tripp says over and over and ****ing over.

Doesn't matter. Right now he is a spectacular bust, and there's no way or reason to defend him.

Ok the Andy Dufresne thing works on a few levels. Well done.

 

[What the Faulk]

Yeah, I'm gonna blame Dufresne. What happened to the Dufresnes? No one seems to care. Who can score at a time like this? People are missing. You people are selfish.

Semin, search party of one. You can score once you find the Dufresenes.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

 

[Wolfpuck]

He's got to get past the river of **** first.