Selke Favorite (Post-Bergeron Injury)

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Selke Favorite?

  1. Still Bergeron

    24.8%
  2. Kopitar

    17.6%
  3. Barkov

    35.8%
  4. Couturier

    19.7%
  5. Other (specify)

    2.1%
  1. CantLoseWithMatthews

    CantLoseWithMatthews Registered User

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    why? I never shove Flyers players down anyone's throat
     
  2. Breakers

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    Dark Horse Brayden Point with a few votes.
     
  3. Pretty Vivid

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    lmao at the #1 Center for the league's best defensive team having the lowest votes for the Selke.
     
  4. Ainec

    Ainec Jim Benning is a meme

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    Last 3 seasons point per game rate

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    Barkov #1 amongst two way centers, #9 overall. Still underrated on HF

    Has more goals than Kopitar in lesser games, and only 22. Bergeron and MacKinnon not on the list but at #18 and #19

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    2nd highest adjusted REL CF% amongst NHL centers
    BTW this is the stat-line that Bergeron has lead the league in in his Selke years.

    Only Sean Couturier has higher (selke nom for sure). But let's look at the first 30 player list.. 3 Flyers, all on the same line as Couturier vs 0 player from Florida aside from Barkov
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  5. VoraceksWristShot

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    Coots deserves this one. Barkov and him will be battling it out when Patrice gets hurt or retires.
     
  6. TheGoldenJet

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    Shouldn't win it, but Kadri deserves some love.
     
  7. Jorkkila

    Jorkkila Ruler of the North

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    No he doesn't. He deserves to be smashed multiple time in open ice
     
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    Couturier isnt playing in the same line as Voracek.
     
  9. StoneHands

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    You keep posting this so I'll keep correcting it. Konecny has played with Couts and Giroux for more than half of the season now. Voracek was moved off of that line almost 3 months ago.
     
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    Based on numbers, Couturier should probably win. But in all honesty, Barkov might just take it if Bergeron is out long enough. There's enough buzz around him now and he has the numbers to make his pick legit. Not the best, but close enough. Barkov also is used as much as #1D. The fact that he's able to play as he does with those minutes is crazy.
     
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    I think it should be Coots year, but I agree barkov is getting alot of love in the media recently. so he may take it. Really depends on how the year finishes. If the Panthers miss the playoff I dont see him getting it. If they make it he could end up with one of the Hart or Selke. I could see the Selke and the Hart goingsome where else.

    It will be him and Coots battling year in and out. With Mathews and a few other as well.
     
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    If Barkov sustains this level of performance throughout the season and Bergeron is out > 2 weeks, then he’s a shoe-in.
     
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    bump’am
     
  14. Ainec

    Ainec Jim Benning is a meme

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    3 games against the Flyers with Florida up 2 wins to 1.. Barkov has averaged 23:30min of ice time. The most on both team just behind defensemen Yandle by 1min and Provorov by 3.

    Barkov plays more than Ekblad, Gostisbehere, and every forward
     
  15. FlaPanthers11

    FlaPanthers11 Cats Are Coming?

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    Barkov bullied Couts all game yesterday. I came away disappointed after having high hopes for a competitive head to head between the 2.
     
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    He really did. Maybe he's been reading HFBoards?

     
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    I think couts was their better players. I believe they had more control and puck in the offensive zone than Barkov line. Panthers went defensive to protect the lead and play smart. I think as induvidual player Barkov had upper hand defensively and offensively but couts was close at scoring too.

    Barkov didn’t destroy Couturier. This game was great example why we should not stare just posession numbers or corsi. Couturier maybe had better posession numbers? But Barkov outplayed him in all 3 zones.
     
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    Couts played 22:29 yesterday after playing over 28 minutes the day before. That's a lot of minutes in a weekend back to back. It's not like Couts is out there playing 18 minutes a game in a limited role.


    For what it's worth, here are the head to head numbers for Couts and Barkov this season.

    3 games played:
    Florida 2-1-0
    Flyers 1-2-0
    The home team has won all 3 games.

    Points:
    Barkov: 1 Goal, 2 Assists, 3 points (2 ES points), +1
    Couturier: 2 Goals, 0 Assists, 2 points (2 ES points), +2

    Time on Ice:
    Barkov: 23:30
    Couturier: 22:25

    Corsi %:
    Barkov: 50.7%
    Couturier: 56.4%

    ES Corsi%
    Barkov: 49.4%
    Couturier: 54.9%

    Faceoffs:
    Barkov: 48.3%
    Couturier: 56.4%
     
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    Beastly Barkov.
     
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  20. PB37

    PB37 Mr Selke

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    Are these numbers for when both are on the ice against each other or overall?
     
  21. 1dreamof1cup

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    If Bergys back soon, its still his pretty easily.. No1 come close to him
     
  22. HyPnOtiK

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    Besides the fact that courtier has better defensive stats.....
     
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    Couts had better defensive stats than Barkov yesterday by corsi etc...? but how come watching that game Barkov had clear upper hand of Couts in all 3 zones?

    It’s 1 game sample but stat watching isn’t only thing we should do especially when Couts has Giroux on his line who shut down prime Crosby in the playoffs and is great two-way player too playing center before. We should watch induvidual performance too.

    I am not saying that Couts would not deserve to win this. We have to watch entire picture here not just stats. I think it is a close race between Bergeron, Barkov and Couturier.
     
  24. StoneHands

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    This is is the two of them overall in the three games. I don't have the numbers for just when they are on the ice together but I can say from watching the games, it certainly appeared that they were matched up against each other very often.
     
  25. Juicy Pop

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    Barkov beats some AHL-caliber defenseman for a beautiful goal.

    "What a strong defensive performance!"

    I love you HF, never change.
     

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