Rumor: Scott Arniel one of four remaining for Avs Head Coach

[GAGLine]

avs weren't planning on roy quitting

That's their problem. No need to make it ours. If they want Arniel, the only way I let him go is if we already have someone lined up to take his spot.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Yeah that was a crappy move quitting this late in the summer. I know a lot of Avs fans are happy to see him gone but you quit after the season - not a month or two prior to training camp.

My guess is he didn't plan on quitting at seasons end. Something must have happened recently.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

If they want Arniel, the only way I let him go is if we already have someone lined up to take his spot.

If Arniel gets offered a HC job, I don't think the Rangers have to agree to let him go. He can go.

 

[Off Sides]

If they let him talk to them, likely they are willing to let him go.

 

[silverfish]

Would we get draft pick compensation? I'd trade Arniel for a 7th in a heartbeat

 

[Tawnos]

That's their problem. No need to make it ours. If they want Arniel, the only way I let him go is if we already have someone lined up to take his spot.

There isn't exactly a dearth of qualified candidates for an associate or assistant coaching position.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Would we get draft pick compensation? I'd trade Arniel for a 7th in a heartbeat

I imagine that Arniel has a clause in his contract that he can leave for a HC job. So probably not.

 

[Off Sides]

I believe they recently removed compensation for coaches leaving and being hired elsewhere. (And I think it was only for head coach anyway?)

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

I believe they recently removed compensation for coaches leaving and being hired elsewhere. (And I think it was only for head coach anyway?)

I think if a coach leaves for a promotion, there's no compensation.

 

[nyr__1994]

If I am NYR I don't let Colorado talk to Arniel. We are a month from the start of training camp. At this point they are already into the season essentially with minimal time to find a replacement. Look how long it took to announce the Beuk promotion after Ulfie left.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

If I am NYR I don't let Colorado talk to Arniel. We are a month from the start of training camp. At this point they are already into the season essentially with minimal time to find a replacement. Look how long it took to announce the Beuk promotion after Ulfie left.

It may not be up to the Rangers.....

 

[Off Sides]

https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-to-end-coach-and-executive-compensation-policy/c-791590

 

[cwede]

If I am NYR I don't let Colorado talk to Arniel. We are a month from the start of training camp. At this point they are already into the season essentially with minimal time to find a replacement. Look how long it took to announce the Beuk promotion after Ulfie left.

much ado about little

early in the year, Gernander, his new D guy Keith? and Pat Boller, just do extra duty

and bring in Schoeny, Drury, St Louis, Gravy to help at Camp

there are plenty of guys to hire
I'd look at Luke Richardson

but there ex NHL HC guys around too

 

[Mikos87]

Rangers should hire a generationally younger coach than AV. I think it would push AV and the team in good ways to get a coach that's got a different dynamic, and doesn't crony up to Alain.

Someone with some toughness too. The Rangers were sooffffff last year.

 

[Thordic]

If I am NYR I don't let Colorado talk to Arniel. We are a month from the start of training camp. At this point they are already into the season essentially with minimal time to find a replacement. Look how long it took to announce the Beuk promotion after Ulfie left.

If you want to piss off your staff, that's the fastest way to do it. "There's a great opportunity out there for you, but we won't let you go for it."

I can't see the Rangers blocking him. They usually try to do right by their people, and he can be replaced.

 

[nyr__1994]

If you want to piss off your staff, that's the fastest way to do it. "There's a great opportunity out there for you, but we won't let you go for it."

I can't see the Rangers blocking him. They usually try to do right by their people, and he can be replaced.

If they were askign at the end of teh season, you know, during the normal time frame for hiring coaches, you absolutely let him talk to the Avs. However, this close to teh beginning of the season is a different story. Where do you draw the line for when you allow coaches to talk to other teams? Start of training camp, start of the regular season? What about the middle of the season?

 

[Thordic]

If they were askign at the end of teh season, you know, during the normal time frame for hiring coaches, you absolutely let him talk to the Avs. However, this close to teh beginning of the season is a different story. Where do you draw the line for when you allow coaches to talk to other teams? Start of training camp, start of the regular season? What about the middle of the season?

Arniel is just reacting to the job market - he didn't pick when the spot became available.

Not sure if you've ever managed people before, but if you block their ability to advance their career, not only will you make them bitter but word will get around. The Rangers usually try pretty hard to make sure everyone is well aware of how well they treat their employees.

 

[nyr__1994]

Arniel is just reacting to the job market - he didn't pick when the spot became available.

Not sure if you've ever managed people before, but if you block their ability to advance their career, not only will you make them bitter but word will get around. The Rangers usually try pretty hard to make sure everyone is well aware of how well they treat their employees.

A coach in the NHL is quite a bit different than corporate america so that comparison doesn't work.

So as a GM you would be OK with a team firing their coach mid season and then asking to speak with your top assistant mid season?

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

A head-coach is worth a 3rd round pick. Is there any compensation for an assistant coach?

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

A head-coach is worth a 3rd round pick.

A head coach is worth a first to the Rangers.

 

[Gospel of Prospal]

Make it Scott Arniel, Marc Staal and Tanner Glass for a pick and we have a deal

 

[Brooklyn Ranger]

A coach in the NHL is quite a bit different than corporate america so that comparison doesn't work.

So as a GM you would be OK with a team firing their coach mid season and then asking to speak with your top assistant mid season?

It's not mid-season and there's plenty of time to get a replacement. The Rangers have always allowed their assistants to apply for head coaching positions, they're not going to prevent Arniel from doing so.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

It's not mid-season and there's plenty of time to get a replacement. The Rangers have always allowed their assistants to apply for head coaching positions, they're not going to prevent Arniel from doing so.

Yup. Nor should they. Preventing your people from moving on to positions that will be better for them and their families is a really good way to ensure you don't get good people in the first place...

 

[Calad]

Would we get draft pick compensation? I'd trade Arniel for a 7th in a heartbeat

They got rid of that dumb rule this past year

 

[Bluenote13]

Arniel was instrumental in landing Vesey.