Saskin vs Fischler

[dedalus]

Saskin didn't do well for lots of reasons.

1. He opens by saying he felt compelled to call in to offer "a point of view that's a little more informed." He ends up saying he wouldn't "lower [himself] to get into a debate."

Well which is it, Ted? Are you calling in to refute Fischler or not?

2. His points boiled down to an opinion/insult ("Stan Fischler is uninformed") and an assertion for which he offers absolutely no proof (a "well over a majority" of owners wanted to take the offer). He did nothing more than repeat these two items, and theat ain't offering much.

3. He implies that Bettman was somehow awful for using his supermajority powers (powers that were granted him by the owners themselves), but then refuses to answer Fischler when Fischler asks him why the players weren't allowed to vote. Furthermore, he has the temerity to say that "there was nothing put forward to the players that would attract any attention for us to put through a vote [his emphasis]."

Who's to say there was nothing of interest, Ted? You? Isn't that exactly WHY you're supposed to put through a vote?

C'mon, Ted, if you're not going to even let your guys VOTE on a proposal, you can't whine because Bettman used the very authority the owners gave him.

I agree that Fischler sounded like a crotchety old man, but Saskin came off as a weasel and a coward to boot. His attacks were personal where Fischler's were directed at the PA leadership's job performance.

All told you'd have to say that Goodenow did a far better job with Russo than Saskin did here. Guess that's why Ted is a lackey and Bob is the guy in charge.

 

[Luc Labelle]

"there was nothing put forward to the players that would attract any attention for us to put through a vote [his emphasis]."

Funny how he can complain that Bettman only needs 8 votes, yet the NHLPA is being held hostage by the 7-man executive council. NHL needs 8/30 or 26.7% to reject an unfavorable deal, the NHLPA needs 7/750 or 0.9% to reject the same unfavorable deal. Which one is more unfair?

The most infantile thing Saskin said in the interview was

...I stopped subscribing to your awful newsletter 10 years ago...

 

[AM]

you have to expect some antagonism....

As someone who supports the owners by default because the business they created losses revenue and there is no longer a choice, let's call Fischler what he is.

1. Someone employed and paid by James Dolan, the owner of a company where Marv Albert is not allowed to say what he really thinks, who claims the most losses in the NHL but will not step to the plate himself and stand by his claims.

2. The same Stan Fischler who within the last month took a players comments made early in the lockout and recycled them to fit completely different content to spin the persepctive of readers. That in of itself ruins all his credibility.

I did not listen to this interview and Fischler may have made Saskin look awful and may have been a hundred percent correct. Saskin many be many things but this was someone who did not even let the death of his own mother stop him from keeping talks going when they got started again. We may disagree with him but he does care.

It's very easy for Fishler to sit inside Msg and not question the people who pay his salary, as they esculated the player market while beating down the other side.

but I agree, the pack mentality is getting tiresome.

 

[OilerFan4Life]

Saskin is such an *******. MY GOD!! We need Mad Dog to tear him up to.

 

[Captain Conservative]

As someone who supports the owners by default because the business they created losses revenue and there is no longer a choice, let's call Fischler what he is.

1. Someone employed and paid by James Dolan, the owner of a company where Marv Albert is not allowed to say what he really thinks, who claims the most losses in the NHL but will not step to the plate himself and stand by his claims.

2. The same Stan Fischler who within the last month took a players comments made early in the lockout and recycled them to fit completely different content to spin the persepctive of readers. That in of itself ruins all his credibility.

I did not listen to this interview and Fischler may have made Saskin look awful and may have been a hundred percent correct. Saskin many be many things but this was someone who did not even let the death of his own mother stop him from keeping talks going when they got started again. We may disagree with him but he does care.

It's very easy for Fishler to sit inside Msg and not question the people who pay his salary, as they esculated the player market while beating down the other side.

Its kind of hard not to pay a player when they have the option of just holding out and not playing, or when most players show loyalty to only the almighty dollar and not their teammates and their teams fans. Its not like the players are blameless in the salaries escalating.