salary cap chart

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alecfromtherock

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Team	Current	             30M cap	             35M cap	             40M cap
Detroit 	$77,856,100	$47,856,100	$42,856,100	$37,856,100
Rangers	$76,448,750	$46,448,750	$41,448,750	$36,448,750
Dallas	$68,578,900	$38,578,900	$33,578,900	$28,578,900
Flyers 	$68,175,250	$38,175,250	$33,175,250	$28,175,250
Colorado 	$63,382,450	$33,382,450	$28,382,450	$23,382,450
Toronto	$62,458,140	$32,458,140	$27,458,140	$22,458,140
St. Louis	$61,675,000	$31,675,000	$26,675,000	$21,675,000
LA	$53,833,800	$23,833,800	$18,883,800	$13,883,800
Anaheim 	$53,296,750	$23,296,750	$18,296,750	$13,296,750
Capitals	$50,895,750	$20,895,750	$15,895,750	$10,895,750
Jersey 	$48,931,700	$18,931,700	$13,931,700	$8,931,700
Boston	$46,569,000	$16,569,000	$11,569,000	$6,569,000
Canucks	$42,074,500	$12,074,500	$7,074,500	$2,074,500
Islanders	$40,865,500	$10,865,500	$5,865,500	
Ottawa 	$39,590,000	$9,590,000	$4,590,000	
Phoenix 	$39,249,750	$9,249,750	$4,249,750	
Montreal	$38,857,000	$8,857,000	$3,857,000	
Calgary	$36,402,600	$6,402,600	$1,402,600	
Carolina	$35,908,750	$5,908,750	$908,750	
San Jose	$34,455,000	$4,455,000		
Tampa 	$34,065,450	$4,065,450		
Columbus	$34,000,000	$4,000,000		
Oilers 	$33,375,000	$3,375,000		
Buffalo	$32,954,250	$2,954,250		
Chicago	$30,867,500	$867,500		
Atlanta	$28,547,500			
Minn.      $27,200,500			
Florida	$26,127,500			
Penguins	$23,400,000			
Nashville	$22,932,500			
Total	$1,332,974,890	$454,766,890	$340,099,690	$254,226,090

Using this site and the ever useful QuickSum function I made this chart to show how various teams will be effected under salary caps of $30M,$35M and $40M.

Teams are placed in descending order based on their player salaries for the 2003-2004 season. Under the 3 cap’s columns are the amount that each respect team must cut in order to reach the salary cap, a blank = teams are already under proposed salary cap. Cap total columns = the total amount of player salary that will be cut by teams over the given salary cap.

Spending room for teams under the salary caps are not included in this chart.

Total player salaries(does not include player costs) were $1,332,974,890 for 03-04.

Using the players 24% salary rollback and applying it to the total player salaries we get $1,332,974,890 X 0.76 = $1,013,060,916.40 divide that number by 30 teams are we get $33,768,697.21 or a $34 million salary cap.

Nashville would only be $7,067,500 – $17,067,500 below the highest salary team under a $30M-$40M cap vs the $54,923,600 that they are currently below the highest salary team.

Extreme team disparity would decrease 321% – 771% under the above salary range and should translate into a fiscally competitive 30 team league.
 

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For the Wings you can subtract $8M for Hasek, $8M for Cujo, $6M for Chelios, $4M for Schneider, likely $6M for Yzerman, $3M for Shanny's pay cut. That's $35M right there. Guys like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Kronwall are due a raise but with a rollback the Wings aren't in that bad of shape.
 

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norrisnick said:
For the Wings you can subtract $8M for Hasek, $8M for Cujo, $6M for Chelios, $4M for Schneider, likely $6M for Yzerman, $3M for Shanny's pay cut. That's $35M right there. Guys like Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and Kronwall are due a raise but with a rollback the Wings aren't in that bad of shape.

You really think Detroits not gonna try and get back a few of those guys?
 

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You really think Detroits not gonna try and get back a few of those guys?
Cujo, Hasek, Schneider are gone (if Kenny thinks about re-signing Cujo or Schneider he needs to be let go in favor of Yzerman). Chelios either retires or signs for dirt cheap, he would have signed around $2M had there been a season. Stevie said he'd think about playing if asked AND the season starts on time, but he's also hinted at retirement. Shanny has an option at $3M sharply down from the $6.5M the last time we played.

So yeah, you can pretty much count on cutting $25-30M off of the payroll.
 

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Why don't we try this with salaries that aren't from the cancelled season?

Because that would be logical and realistic, something we don't like to be around here.
 

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Why don't we try this with salaries that aren't from the cancelled season?
The 'PA's website still has their old proposal up in .pdf form. They have a nice appendix that outlines all the teams with the players under contract for both the locked out year and '05-'06 figures.

The Wings would be sitting at $42.255M ($32.113M post rollback) without Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Kronwall, Dandenault, Williams and then the question marks of Yzerman and Chelios. They'd probably crack $40M a bit.
 

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If any of you guys want to really bring up numbers.. you have to assume the 24% rollback ain't coming.. it has not been talked about even once post black-sunday...
 

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Drury_Sakic said:
If any of you guys want to really bring up numbers.. you have to assume the 24% rollback ain't coming.. it has not been talked about even once post black-sunday...
It is, or at least something similar. The numbers don't add up without it. There won't be room under a cap without a rollback. I'm not talking about a couple teams either. I'm talking about all the players on all the teams. The UFAs out there won't be able to be signed at their value relative to the players that are still under contract. Considering there are a sh**load of UFAs out there I don't see the 'PA going for that option.
 

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We can't use that chart..its from the start of the 03-04 season..The Rangers payroll went under 45 million when the 04 season ended ..not 75.
 

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Can't use the 03-04 numbers.

Anaheim would have been about 42 million for 04-05.

With Ozolinsh's 4.5 off the Books this summer the Ducks should be in good shape.

Feds salary goes back up from 6 to 8 million and there may be a few more small raises but the Ducks should be around the 40 million cap.
 

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The $77 million number for te Wings last year is fictional anyway. It doesn't take into account the salary that Hasek gave back.
 

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I understand what you are trying to do with that chart, but that chart represents a lot of contracts that are expired and contracts that have been moved. You have Washington with $50m in payroll and Jagr on the roster. The Capitals have maybe the 2nd lowest current payroll in the NHL.

What would be helpful is a chart of contracts that are signed at least thru the 05-06 season plus RFA's from the cancelled season and the next season that are unsigned.
 

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txpd said:
I understand what you are trying to do with that chart, but that chart represents a lot of contracts that are expired and contracts that have been moved. You have Washington with $50m in payroll and Jagr on the roster. The Capitals have maybe the 2nd lowest current payroll in the NHL.

What would be helpful is a chart of contracts that are signed at least thru the 05-06 season plus RFA's from the cancelled season and the next season that are unsigned.

Do you really think Leonsis would have altered his course had there not been a lockout? He would have just kept spending on free agents in an effort to ice a competitive team. Same thing with Slats. His biggest complaint in Edmonton was a low budget. Would he have moved to the Rangers if he saw a cap proposal coming that would level the playing field? Probably not. He had a lifetime pass to run the Oilers based on his success in the 80's and early 90's.
Had the owners not been gearing up for a lockout most of those salaries wouldn't have been cut or moved and overall salaries would probably have increased.

If the league had been operating as usual, without a lockout on the horizon, the changes brought about by a cap would have been drastic and that is what this chart shows.

Not only will player salaries be changed, the owners and GMs will have to dramatically alter the way they do business. Teams like the Rangers will now have to develop talent rather than try to buy it same thing with the Leafs, Canucks, and Flyers.
 

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Zhackpot said:
Not only will player salaries be changed, the owners and GMs will have to dramatically alter the way they do business. Teams like the Rangers will now have to develop talent rather than try to buy it same thing with the Leafs, Canucks, and Flyers.

What talent did the Canucks buy?
 

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Timmy said:
What talent did the Canucks buy?


Everyone is so freaking touchy when you mention their team. Look beyond the homerism and actually read the argument and you might understand it before I have to spell it out for you.

Christ! All I was pointing out that if it was business as usual the Canucks would have spent to keep Bertuzzi, Morrison, Naslund, etc. With a cap in place it will be harder for all teams to keep those types of players but especially more difficult for teams in larger markets to do so since they will not have unlimited resources.

Teams like Carolina, Florida, Tampa, Calgary, Ottawa, etc, ie. teams that wouldn't be cutting payroll in half or a third, were already operating under cap like conditions.
 

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Zhackpot said:
Everyone is so freaking touchy when you mention their team. Look beyond the homerism and actually read the argument and you might understand it before I have to spell it out for you.

Christ! All I was pointing out that if it was business as usual the Canucks would have spent to keep Bertuzzi, Morrison, Naslund, etc. With a cap in place it will be harder for all teams to keep those types of players but especially more difficult for teams in larger markets to do so since they will not have unlimited resources.

Teams like Carolina, Florida, Tampa, Calgary, Ottawa, etc, ie. teams that wouldn't be cutting payroll in half or a third, were already operating under cap like conditions.

Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as being touchy.

Burke got roasted every offseason for not going out and signing big-name UFAs, and I always thought he was one GM who actually made a budget and stuck to it.
 
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