Ryan Whitney,Cam Barker, Andre Mezaros

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  1. TeamPlayer

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    Who do you see putting up more goals this year?? And in the future! Predictions would be great as well.

    My views are

    This year

    Whitney 11
    Mezaros 10
    Weber 8
    Barker 6


    In the future

    Barker
    Whitney
    Weber
    Mezaros
     
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    11, 10, and 6 are your predictions? They seem pretty low.

    Barker is slated to be the Hawks PP QB, 15 is a more realistic number.
     
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    Offensively I see Barker being the best but in terms of overall game Meszaros.
     
  4. TeamPlayer

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    AS A ROOKIE????

    I want to add weber to the list as well!!!
     
  5. Chelios

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    15 may be a stretch (though I think it is well within reach), but I would be surprised if he scored less than 10. Barker`s wrist shot from the point is a thing of beauty.
     
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    Scoring Goals is Weber's Thing, I'd Predict Atleast 8 out Of him Next Season Upwards of 15.
     
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    11 for Whitney may be not too far off. He has quite some offensive potential (which he has shown at various levels), but Whitney has never scored many goals.
     
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    Keep an eye on Welch's total goals as well. He has a big shot.
     
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    For dmen that's not low at all.
     
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    I think Barker will lead the way because he will be given more opportunity to score.

    Barker - 12-15
    Whitney - 9
    Mezaros - 11
    Weber - 8
     
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    Whitney and Mezaros are the gems in this bunch you list. Barker, while drafted high and even though he played in World Jrs and played well for the Tigers, he (IMO) will not succeed as a #1-4 d-man in the NHL. Sorry. He has lots of tools but not the toolbox. He may well be another one of those highly rated CHL kids who can't make the transistion to the NHL. Just my opinion.
     
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    I agree to a certain extent, but I think he will be a top 4 d man. When he was drafted people were comparing him to a Lidstrom type of player. Not overly physical but pretty good positionally and great passer and shooter.

    I expect this to be his player description as an NHLer too, but he will not be great at defense. A Gonchar-esq. kind of player. Paired with Accouin on the PP he will rack up points and be a good player. If he can play with Accouin 5x5 then it would help his development a great deal.
     
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    If Barker's play in Chicago's prospect camp this summer transfers well to the pro level, than in no way could I see Barker being like Gonchar defensively.
     
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    Yep I also think that Whitney and Meszaros will be the most valuable ones out of the bunch. Though, Barker will have to play on the NHL level for some time before he can really be compared to the other guys.
     
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    You have to watch Barker more. What blew me away about him at the World Juniors was his positioning defensively. This kid is so smooth and so smart that he doesn`t really stick out. You have to really pay attention to him to appreciate how good he is. This kid is the real deal and IMO will be better than Seabrook.
     
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    Whitney - PP with Crosby
    Weber - Hes gonna surprise alot of people
    Barker - Will take some time to hit his stride as Ch-Town rebuilds
    Mezaros - With the acquisitions of Corvo and Preissing his ice time will go down, had a great rookie season though.
     
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    Only 7 D-Man in the NHL posted more then 15 last season, and given scoring was trending downwards all year last season it seems unlikely there will be even that many this season.
    It seems unlikely to me that Barker in his rookie season is to be one of the top few offensive D-Man in the NHL immediately.
     
  18. No Quarter*

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    I had the oppertunity to watch Whitney for most of last season and I think he has the potential to be a great 2 way dman for alot of years to come.
    He got called up and started off on fire then he faded off making alot of rookie errors such as not shooting, not being in position, etc, etc. but after a few months he started to settle down and play some excellent hockey both offensively and defensively.
    I'd say 10 to 15 would be a fair guess.
     
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    In terms of short term point I see it as
    Meszaros
    Weber
    Withney
    Barker

    In terms of long term point
    Barker
    Meszaros
    Withney
    Weber

    In term Of Overall Game
    WEBER (Is a Monster)
    Barker
    Meszaros
    Withney

    That being said I like them all... but Weber...
     
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    I agree to a point too. Not as good as he was supposed to be. But probably still capable of 30-40 points a season and a #2 or 3 guy. As you said, probably not a #1.
     
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    No respect for Whitney wow.
     
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    Honestly I thought that Barker had a fairly poor world junior tourney for Canada........and the year before he only played what 2 games in it and they werent very telling but he was on a stacked team that year.

    I have also seen Barker roughly 40 times playing with the Tigers over the last 4 years and really outside 2 or 3 games was not that impressed with him at all.........he seems to lack work ethic and doesnt skate hard to get back in the play........def. is not physical at all........and quite often took bad penalties at the wrong times of games..........he does have a really nice breakout pass though.

    overall my list will look like this
    Weber
    Whitney
    Meszaros
    Barker
     
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    If this is just a points (goals) discussion, then Whitney and Meszaros should be at the top both now and in the future. As Pittsburgh's young talent develops, and Whitney settles into his role as PP QB he could be one of the top scoring d-men in the league, probably 60+ points. I don't see Weber or Barker matching that.
     
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    1- Carle
    2- Whitney
    3- Meszaros
    4- Weber
    5- Barker
     
  25. Chelios

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    If you weren`t impressed by Barker at the WJCs, it would seem to me that you aren`t watching carefully enough. Barker is not one of those guys that will grab your attention and get you out of your seat. He is not one of those guys that is going to throw the highlight reel hit, score on a rocket slapshot from the point or fly at full speed from end to end. He is extremely calm, very patient with the puck, would rather the throw a quick wrister on net than take a huge slapshot, and does not waste any energy out on the ice. You really have to watch him to truely appreciate how good he is. Believe me I was not a huge Cam Barker fan after the Hawks drafted him. But after watching him quite a bit in the last year I have really come to appreciate what he brings. The WJCs last year were what really made me a believer. There was a reason he wasn`t on the ice for any goals against. This kid is one of the best players positionally I have ever seen. Watch him very closely the next time you see him and you will see what I mean.
     

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