Player Discussion Ryan Spooner

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  1. emodwarf

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    Hey, cool...so how about that Ryan Spooner?
     
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    2.92 p/60

    I'm dying
     
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    But hopefully it doesn't "have to be" 3 or 4. I'm hoping for 2 max (and this year counts), so I would be willing to go through 1 more year of sucking, but want to see a bunch of young fleet footing kids making mistakes and learning from them. Playing together all year and growing TOGETHER. That would be fun and something we must go though despite the losing. At least it may be for a good cause......eventually.
     
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    So I guess anything less than a stanley cup is mediocrity to you. This team has gone to three conference finals including a trip to the finals in the last 7 years. Hell, they should have been in another conference finals last year if AV wasn't such a jackass. I have enjoyed all of them even though they haven't won it all. Now is the time to go in a different direction as Gorton has done but you can't look back and say the last 7 years or so has been just mediocre. It's just not true.
     
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    Absolutely all of it driven by the greatest goalie of this generation who we got in the 7th round....
     
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    Spooner now only trails Barzal, Kucherov, MacKinnon, and Marchand in points/60.

    He just passed up, um....Connor McDavid :laugh:
     
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    8/96. Get it done.
     
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    LOL

    You think he’d take huge hometown discount at 8/96?!
     
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    Real question on spooner....how many of his points are secondary?

    When looking at p/60 isn't primary the more important metric to use?
     
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    I think it's a good indicator to look at primary points, but not all secondary points are garbage. Last night for instance, he had that pass to Gilmour that basically set up the entire breakaway. To me, it's difficult to completely ignore secondary points
     
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    Agreed...just feel like a great number of his points so far have been mostly driven by other players...granted he's been real good..but still....
     
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    I think the logic is that ignoring key secondary assists is offset by counting “lesser” primary assists.
     
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    I still wonder why the Bruins decided to get rid of him. He is playing quite good now. What was wrong with him in Boston?
     
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    I don't think it's really that they decided to get rid of him as much as it was they needed to find a way to make the salary work for the trade and he was the most logical candidate.
     
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    That and they felt he was expendable.
     
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    My understanding is that he was tried and didn’t work out as a regular center, and only recently he was converted to a full time wing. His contract issue last offseason and another upcoming arbitration eligibility plus Boston’s salary cap issues were factors too.
     
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    Man, you must be a lot of fun at parties.
     
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    17 of his 27 5v5 points are primary (9G, 8A). For all situations, 23 of his 36 points are primary (11G, 12A). I tend to look at all of those different factors to see if someone can drive play or has been racking up a lot of secondary points. I think there's a weird stigma around secondary points, but it's not that they're bad, it's just that they're not really repeatable in the long run.
     
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    Hope you guys are enjoying Spooner.

    As for Nash, he can dominate shifts, but like you guys were saying, he may lead the league in "almosts".

    He's shifty, fights to the slot, dangerous on the rush, he could easily have 3-4 more goals.

    But I feel like that's been a theme of his for the last couples seasons.

    Great move into a scoring area, then puck falls of the end of his stick, shot gets blocked, shoots when he should have held a half second more, etc.

    Overall though pretty happy.
     
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    As I said at the deadline, he's a good two way player and a quality guy. If you consider any goals a bonus you'll enjoy Nash. lol
     
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    There’s more to his game so try on concentrate on his complete 200 foot game. Also while you pretty much described Nash’s offensive game to a “t”, he has it in him to go on a good scoring streak that could last weeks or even a month.
     
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    Basically sums up his entire career
     
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    Spooner has put up incredible numbers so far and I hope to keep him, but I notice Namestnikov more than I notice Spooner.
     
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    If you go with just primary he goes from 3rd to 26th. I'm not complaining about having the 26th best even strength scorer in the league this year.
     
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    The guy has 12 points in 7 games and has played great. He has had some brilliant primary assists and last night had an assist the started a breakout that wound up being a secondary.
     

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