Player Discussion Ryan Spooner VII

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Alan Ryan

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Ive had it with him. He has shown he has skill. But he disappears too often. Cant be count upon.
He either lacks brains, courage or desire. Or any combination of those attributes.
At the slighest indication that hes going to get thumped he dishes the puck off.
Hes a perimeter player and a luxury if hes producing on the PP.
If he isnt producing on the PP hes as useless as Id be out there.


I agree Wally. Spooner can be replaced, including his role on the PP.
 

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I agree Wally. Spooner can be replaced, including his role on the PP.

I'd replace him with Bjork on the PP right now in that same spot on the half-wall.

Left-shot, I'm sure he can pass to Marchand down low and Krug up high just as good as Spooner can (let's be honest he does nothing else).

Also creates a one-timer/shooting presence in that spot, which should open up more chances for Pasta on his half-wall side, teams won't be as able to overload Pasta's side in anticipation of the one-timer from #88 (which you can see teams doing to the Bruins now).

He also likes to cut into the high slot and go across the grain with a wrister (he's attempted it a few times 5 on 5), which is something Spooner never does, and give the 1st unit PP just one more look and not be so predictable.
 

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I think with McAvoy, the dynamic on the powerplay shifts from the wall to Mac to pick either Pasta pretending to be Ovie or whomever is on the other wall. Bjork, Marchand or DeBrusk heck anyone with good hands (Heinen, Bergy, Krech) just has to get it back to Mac. What they really miss is Eriksson in front, no one has been that good on this team in yrs paying the price and scoring on the PP. Gotta find that element again. Pasta is missing some shots and I am sure that playbook is out there on our powerplay. They need to fiddle with it and losing Spooner is no loss anymore with the skill they drafted. I am not ready to add JFK, he needs to gain some weight and experience in the AHL this year. We have enough shiny toys. We need a net presence, I was hoping Backes was going be that but he does not have those quick hands and feet anymore. A Simmonds type guy would be perfect.
 

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I think with McAvoy, the dynamic on the powerplay shifts from the wall to Mac to pick either Pasta pretending to be Ovie or whomever is on the other wall. Bjork, Marchand or DeBrusk heck anyone with good hands (Heinen, Bergy, Krech) just has to get it back to Mac. What they really miss is Eriksson in front, no one has been that good on this team in yrs paying the price and scoring on the PP. Gotta find that element again. Pasta is missing some shots and I am sure that playbook is out there on our powerplay. They need to fiddle with it and losing Spooner is no loss anymore with the skill they drafted. I am not ready to add JFK, he needs to gain some weight and experience in the AHL this year. We have enough shiny toys. We need a net presence, I was hoping Backes was going be that but he does not have those quick hands and feet anymore. A Simmonds type guy would be perfect.

On the 1st unit, the Eriksson spot needs to be a left-shot to work. They tried Backes there early on last year and it didn't work with the right-shot, coming out of the corner he was forced to pass on his back-hand, meanwhile feeding Bergeron in the bumper position was a key part of the PP, hard to do with the righty down low.

I think Debrusk can be the guy in that Eriksson spot eventually, but right now I'd be wary taking Marchand out of it, even if he isn't the net front presence Eriksson was.
 

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Here's something I don't understand... Why do people insist on Spooner's success being tied to his ability to become a top six forward? Why can't he just be what he is... A bottom six support player who can contribute on the powerplay? 35-45 points a year.


I don't think he fits in either the top 6 or the bottom 6 in Boston (wing or center). He doesn't compete enough for the game Boston wants to play.

I prefer Nash, Kuraly, Backes, Czarnik and JFK at center for Boston in the bottom 6 over Spooner.

Time to move on . . .
 

Alan Ryan

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Watching BU play Notre Dame last year I had the same thought. JFK's strong two-way game will be a natural fit for the 3C role and Bjork was qb'ing their PP from the half wall, right where Spooner sets up.


Bjork indeed looked good when was on the PP. Heinen was on the PP when Spooner got injured last game and he looked good out there also.
 

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I'd replace him with Bjork on the PP right now in that same spot on the half-wall.

Left-shot, I'm sure he can pass to Marchand down low and Krug up high just as good as Spooner can (let's be honest he does nothing else).

Also creates a one-timer/shooting presence in that spot, which should open up more chances for Pasta on his half-wall side, teams won't be as able to overload Pasta's side in anticipation of the one-timer from #88 (which you can see teams doing to the Bruins now).

He also likes to cut into the high slot and go across the grain with a wrister (he's attempted it a few times 5 on 5), which is something Spooner never does, and give the 1st unit PP just one more look and not be so predictable.

yes.
 

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I don't think he fits in either the top 6 or the bottom 6 in Boston (wing or center). He doesn't compete enough for the game Boston wants to play.

I prefer Nash, Kuraly, Backes, Czarnik and JFK at center for Boston in the bottom 6 over Spooner.

Time to move on . . .
 

b in vancouver

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20 ESP last year. 40 points total. Sub 40% at the dot. Shies away from contact. Loses one on one battles. Isn't great along the boards. Is a liability defensively. Perimeter player. Hasn't seemed to get better.
You could live with some of these things but not all of them.

A few people mentioned his defence - but for me he plays hesitantly and is muscled off the puck and seems to give-up on plays.

He got the contract this summer so can't see them sitting him just yet - but he's really got to show more drive and determination and battle in his game over the next few weeks and play as if his career depends on it. I'm not hopeful but have been proven wrong more than enough times.
 

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He played 2 or 3 shifts on the top line this year, set up Marchand for a couple good scoring chances and it was Nash time ever since. No one has been able to explain why he was taken off the line so quickly. It’s always, he had 10 years to play on the top line!

One reason is that you don't reward the player on your roster who shows the least drive, determination, hustle and work ethic on your team by giving him a promotion.
 
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One reason is that you don't reward the player on your roster who shows the least drive, determination, hustle and work ethic on your team by giving him a promotion.

You’re talking about a team that just demoted Heinen who was our best bottom 6 forward the past few games. I understand you’re point, but they don’t promote/demote players based on drive, hustle, work ethic, if they did Heinen would still be on the team and Beleskey would have been in the press box since last year.
 

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Oof.

Poor kid

I really do feel for him- that is a rough injury at any time and I agree with @Over the volcano that at this point in his career he really didn't this (not that anyone ever needs a groin tear :laugh:) but from a pragmatic (cynical?) perspective, I bet the team won't be really any worse off. It might even be that they realize that its time to cash in on moving him for what they can get.
 

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I'd like to offer BUF their choice 2 of Spooner, Belesky or Vatrano and send us back Kane and a pick.

Let the kids fill the hole of the 2 guys gone.

Kane is a high risk high reward. I know it's overpayment but whatever.

Its definitely not overpayment

Kane wouldnt be welcome on my team but getting rid of sooner and belesky without throwing in a pick would be amazing

They are little more than pressbox scratches and earn over 7 million between them. Expect to include our first round pick if you want anyone to take them off our hands in a package
 

Mick Riddleton

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A month and a half, ouch well it's going be hard to move him now, till he gets back and shows something of value to someone. By then we should know if Beleskey has any life left.
 

Mick Riddleton

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I thought we already knew he didn't? :laugh:
My mind is made up but some still want to give him chance after chance. At least if he can elevate his valuem which is not very good now. I say just bite the bullet and move Beleskey and Spooner and one of the stone hands defense. Lets finally pick the team already.
 

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Kane has 10 points in 7 games so far. Can’t see them taking our castaways for him. It would be worth adding a first.
 

Alan Ryan

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Tough injury for the kid. And another center down.


That is tough for Spooner. With injured players coming back and all the players auditioning for jobs he might struggle to get back in the line-up when healthy again.
 
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