RW Eeli Tolvanen Milwaukee Admirals, AHL (2017, 30th, NSH) Part II

[MardyBum]

FWIW, the Laine comparisons didn't originate from posters on HF. They came from Jokerit's coach.

Jokerit's coach is an idiot then.

 

[ijuka]

Originated...Tolvanen has been compared to Laine since well before Laine even got drafted.

 

[Hokinaittii]

Jokerit's coach is an idiot then.

He is also the most respected coach in Finland (WHC/WJC golds + olympic bronze) who called Laine to be the best player in 1998 age group before Laine played in FEL regularly and hardly anyone knew him other than from the Ivan Hlinka incident. So he isn't just some idiot who happened to be hyping his own player for no other reason.

Anyway, Jalonen didn't directly say Tolvanen is comparable to Laine, only that he "got the same feeling" when he saw Tolvanen play, a kid that has elite potential and who is able to impact the game immediately. Those kind of players don't come very often in Finland.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Lots of the hype here has to do with being one of the only guys playing (and playing well) --as camps open up in the NHL and other 2017 first rounders make some noise, I think we will see this thread bumped less and less often.

 

[Kaako Kappo]

FWIW, the Laine comparisons didn't originate from posters on HF. They came from Jokerit's coach.

He said he's as gifted as Pulju and Laine, he did not compare the styles at all.

 

[Pia8988]

Lots of the hype here has to do with being one of the only guys playing (and playing well) --as camps open up in the NHL and other 2017 first rounders make some noise, I think we will see this thread bumped less and less often.

Disagree. He fell because of outside circumstances, not talent.

 

[Hokinaittii]

Lots of the hype here has to do with being one of the only guys playing (and playing well) --as camps open up in the NHL and other 2017 first rounders make some noise, I think we will see this thread bumped less and less often.

If the previous Laine and Puljujärvi threads are any indication, this topic will keep getting bumped by Finns everytime Tolvanen nets a point.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Disagree. He fell because of outside circumstances, not talent.

When/where did I say otherwise?

All I'm saying is that once other 1st rounders start blowing up their camps and/or preseason then people will stop seeing him as the only 2017 1st rounder making noise.

 

[FinnishSniper]

When/where did I say otherwise?

All I'm saying is that once other 1st rounders start blowing up their camps and/or preseason then people will stop seeing him as the only 2017 1st rounder making noise.

Khl >>>>>> junior

The kid is doing historical things. I think he will have the best season this year out of any 2017 draftees. Edit: other than Hischier

 

[Erikfromfin]

what a snipe once again. 1+1 going on 2nd period vs amur

 

[SoundAndFury]

He is still a bit much of a one trick pony, especially on PP where keeping puck for 10 seconds and then shooting isn't the best option probably but man, can he ever shoot. Another rocket one timer today.

Assist was a freebie though, also bad-ish turnover which lead to Amur's 2nd goal.

 

[TheFinnishTrap]

He is still a bit much of a one trick pony, especially on PP where keeping puck for 10 seconds and then shooting isn't the best option probably but man, can he ever shoot. Another rocket one timer today.

Assist was a freebie though, also bad-ish turnover which lead to Amur's 2nd goal.

Yeah, that's his go-to move on the PP, hold the puck while moving around a bit and then try to cut to the middle for a wrister. It often results in a pretty dangerous chance, so I don't see what's wrong with it. It's not like he hasn't set up his linemates on the PP.

The turnover wasn't a good play, but I don't think it was the main reason for that goal.

 

[ARGD]

He is still a bit much of a one trick pony, especially on PP where keeping puck for 10 seconds and then shooting isn't the best option probably but man, can he ever shoot. Another rocket one timer today.

Assist was a freebie though, also bad-ish turnover which lead to Amur's 2nd goal.

Far from a one trick pony. He is pretty easily the best player with the puck on the team. Smart player, especially with the puck. This has been pretty bad game posession-wise from his line though.

Those shots he took on the power play were excellent plays.

 

[SoundAndFury]

I don't know how many times that "go-to move" is going to work when everybody and their mother knows what he's doing. Sure he has a lethal shot but beating a goalie with a clean shot when he's set up isn't that easy.

 

[Tripod]

Far from a one trick pony. He is pretty easily the best player with the puck on the team. Smart player, especially with the puck. This has been pretty bad game posession-wise from his line though.

Those shots he took on the power play were excellent plays.

Of his points, how many are OP points vs ES. Anyone know....or where to find it?

 

[TheFinnishTrap]

I don't know how many times that "go-to move" is going to work when everybody and their mother knows what he's doing. Sure he has a lethal shot but beating a goalie with a clean shot when he's set up isn't that easy.

It's not like he is forcing it every time he gets the puck. He seems to be able to pick his spots pretty well, and if it isn't there, he'll distribute the puck.

 

[TheFinnishTrap]

Of his points, how many are OP points vs ES. Anyone know....or where to find it?

The KHL site has some info, from his 4 goals 1 is a PP goal. There's no stat for PP points, but I remember at least one PP assist. As a side note, he is averaging over 4 shots per game.

 

[Tripod]

The KHL site has some info, from his 4 goals 1 is a PP goal. There's no stat for PP points, but I remember at least one PP assist. As a side note, he is averaging over 4 shots per game.

Thank you.

 

[SoundAndFury]

It's not like he is forcing it every time he gets the puck. He seems to be able to pick his spots pretty well, and if it isn't there, he'll distribute the puck.

It's just my first full Jokerit game this season but he did it twice in 30 seconds so I got the impression he is forcing it. Maybe that's not the case.

 

[BusQuets]

It's just my first full Jokerit game this season but he did it twice in 30 seconds so I got the impression he is forcing it. Maybe that's not the case.

That's because the defenseman played it horribly. You cannot let Tolvanen shoot there. They were lucky he didn't score there.

 

[ARGD]

It's just my first full Jokerit game this season but he did it twice in 30 seconds so I got the impression he is forcing it. Maybe that's not the case.

Definitely not the case. He's been more of a playmaker on the pp, i have wanted him to shoot more.

 

[Hokinaittii]

Gotta love the way he is able shoot while skating backwards.

https://streamable.com/dkcnj

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

Gotta love the way he is able shoot while skating backwards.

https://streamable.com/dkcnj

It's just so weird to see Finns who can actually shoot the puck and one-time it in from anywhere.

Still not used to it

 

[Nate070]

I can´t stop watching that shot.. What a beauty. I get some Laine-vibes here

 

[Gsus]

I don't know how many times that "go-to move" is going to work when everybody and their mother knows what he's doing. Sure he has a lethal shot but beating a goalie with a clean shot when he's set up isn't that easy.

Like said, he's a great playmaker as well. He isn't forcing the shot at least on my viewings.

But the same was said of Laine, everyone knows he's going to shoot it but they really can't stop it.