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Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XV: Trading up or down? - Mod Warning post #450

Discussion in 'New York Rangers' started by Amazing Kreiderman, May 31, 2018.

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  1. effen

    effen Registered User

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    Always seemed like a better board guy than a playmaker to me. You might be right long term with him on wing.

    They really only need centers (and a goalie) and we're painfully short of those in the short term.
     
  2. Brooklyn Rangers Fan

    Brooklyn Rangers Fan Change is good.

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    Yes – BUT since it'd be an over-35 deal and he's declining, the contract needs to be a) for 1 year, 2) at an AAV that is easily bury-able, or c) both.
     
  3. NYR Viper

    NYR Viper Registered User

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    Yeah for sure a 1 year deal. Maybe $1.5m or so would be reasonable.
     
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    Brooklyn Rangers Fan Change is good.

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    Deal Spooner.
    Keep Namestnikov.
    Continue to focus on the long term next year – and let the chips fall where they may in terms of results.
     
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  5. Go Away Staal

    Go Away Staal #tradezucc

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    Lays Vitaly Swagtsov

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    All of the bolded are bad-awful for the other team involved. We’re trading a bunch of scrubs (Gropp, Gilmour, Reunanen) for Domi+?
    Namestnikov for R. Andersson+Ruzicka? That last package alone doesn’t touch Bjustad. Only trade here that doesn’t favor us great is the Spooner for Cernak+Colton trade. Cernak is a meh prospect, very good chance he’s nothing more than a bottom pairing D, Colton is a long shot. I’d rather take a mid 2nd for Spooner and be done with it. And to the last thing you’ve said, correct because pretty much none of these are close to being realistic. They look like NHL 18 trades
     
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    Lays Vitaly Swagtsov

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    I don’t think we have the pieces for Lindholm. They likely want a near ready forward prospect with top 6 potential +. Or maybe a goalie prospect could be thrown in there as well but I don’t think we have what it takes. My best offer would be Georgiev+Spooner/Vladdy+26th overall. Canes don’t do that though but that’s the most I’m willing to offer

    Edit-thinking about it now, a deal around Buch/Lindholm makes a lot of sense for both teams. We’d have to add a little though. It’d have to be something like Buch+Georgiev for Lindholm which I’m not willing to give up but thatd be the ask from the Canes
     
  8. Paulie Walnutz

    Paulie Walnutz “Advanced” stats? Fuggedaboutit

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    You guys are going about it all wrong. Edmonton is going to need another center/wing when they trade Draisaitl for Shea Weber, they’ll clearly want Boo Nieves:sarcasm:
     
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    Hi mike Yankees should trade Ellsbury for DeGrom and Syndergard. I'll hang up and listen.
     
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    Trxjw Retired.

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    Hard to say what the direction is in Carolina, but if I had to guess, the cost would be a similar player. I.e., a younger roster player who hasn't found his game yet. A lot would hinge on whether or not he can open up his game in a new system, and if he found some players to gel with. I could see him playing very well on the wing with a guy like Andersson in the middle.

    I still like Galchenyuk. There's so much talent there and getting him out of that fishbowl in Montreal could do wonders for him. I'm not sure he's a center in this league, but if the price was right, he's well worth the gamble IMO. Hell, Galchenyuk, Andersson, and Lindholm might make a heck of a line.
     
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    jas Unsatisfied

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    Spooner and 26 for 10.
     
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    GregSirico I believe in the VISION

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    Shattenhurts Rebuilding.

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    I do that deal yesterday, but I highly doubt EDM does it... although, you never know with Chia.
     
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    If he's as stupid as everyone likes to poke at we're wasting time making trade proposals on the internet when we could be walking up to him and getting him to sign over his house and retirement accounts for a pack of gum.
     
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    Shattenhurts Rebuilding.

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    ...we don't have AV anymore though. :sarcasm:
     
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    i dont understand why there is so much love to keep Namestikov and deal spooner. From the 10-15 games i watched spooner, his passing and play making skills were quite noticable and quite good. Namestnikov was absolutely worthless in my opinion. Vlad was nothing short of a by-product of playing wth stamkos and kucherov......a'la Kyle Okposo, Matt Molson, PA Parentau and so on......playing with Tavres. All flopped the day they left the isalnders and didnt have JT as their center.
     
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    Well I imagine part of it is because Spooner played well during his tenure as a Ranger. We can still sell somewhat high on Spooner.

    Namestnikov tanked his value in the short term so it is probably worth seeing if he regains some of it instead of selling low now.
     
  18. LeetchisGod

    LeetchisGod AV's shutdown pairing from hell

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    I don't either. I would trade both to be honest.
     
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    Agreed.

    Stand pat and let a great pick fall to us @ #9OA, which seems more and more likely.

    Then use assets saved by not trading up on a deal for #10OA...

    ...and failing that on #13OA, then #15OA.

    Gonna be the best draft so far in my lifetime....at least the most entertaining.
     
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    NYR Viper Registered User

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    Yeah I would be far more interested in trying to acquire the #15 or #13 than moving up from #9
     
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    Lion Hound @JoeTucc26

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    10 Potential new contracts for these lads below. I'm very curious to see how this plays out. Rangers have so much room, im concerned on how much they will end up paying for the below players. Lots of talk to trade Spooner or Vladdy, but is that realistic?

    RESTRICTED
    Kevin Hayes
    Ryan Spooner
    Vlad Namestnikov
    Jimmy Vesey
    Boo Nieves
    Adam Tambellini


    Brady Skjei
    Rob O’Gara
    Chris Bigras
    John Gilmour
     
  22. LeetchisGod

    LeetchisGod AV's shutdown pairing from hell

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    Hayes and Skjei are no brainers. Vesey I would keep because he shouldn't cost much. Spooner and Namestnikov should be shopped to gauge potential return. The rest I really don't care about.
     
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    bobbop Henrik & Pop

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    While I don’t think this deal would fly, don’t lose sight of the fact that Chiarelli drafted Spooner.
     
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    silverfish Not a GM

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    Is 10-15 games enough?
     
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    8 days left until the draft
    16 days until UFA begins
    Potential Buyout period and likely a few trades
    Then the RFA negotiations with 10 unsigned free agents
    This will be a telling time for the future of the NYR org
    It’s happening!
    But what “it” is remains to be seen.
    Not the cousin It I hope
     
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