Speculation: Roster Building Thread Part XIV: There ain't no gettin' off of this train we're on

[Mac n Gs]

Would much rather him address the lack of skill. Seems like a bigger priority, to me, but what do I know.

Volume shooters, baby. That being said, I don’t think Gorton means grit like Roussel. I think he means that he wants his teams to show up and skate whistle-to-whistle. That can be coached, and it doesn’t require a specific type of player.

 

[silverfish]

I'm not sure why it has to be a binary decision

It's not binary in the sense that we don't have to target only tough players or only skilled players, but it is binary in the sense that the tough & skilled players are not readily available in the league.

 

[NYR Viper]

It's not binary in the sense that we don't have to target only tough players or only skilled players, but it is binary in the sense that the tough & skilled players are not readily available in the league.

This is true, although I think he can look specifically for guys who play with a bit more of an edge and still play a role on a winning team. Komarov. Roussel. Even Filpulla plays with a bit of an edge (compared to DD). It doesn't need to be (1) specific player, but there needs to be some thought put into getting the team as a whole to bring more energy on a consistent basis. It's both a coaching and a personnel issue

 

[Fvital92]

Volume shooters, baby. That being said, I don’t think Gorton means grit like Roussel. I think he means that he wants his teams to show up and skate whistle-to-whistle. That can be coached, and it doesn’t require a specific type of player.

Hopefully it won't mean Tkachuk in the draft, not a big fan when I look at the other possibilities.

 

[TheTakedown]

Zucc (I really don’t want to see him gone) plus one of our firsts this year for one of Anaheim’s young D (Montour, Manson)

Would LOVE one of those trades. Manson is the guy

 

[NYR Viper]

Hopefully it won't mean Tkachuk in the draft, not a big fan when I look at the other possibilities.

I'm not seeing the reason to pass on a player like Tkachuk. Can someone explain this to me? He outscored Kreider as a draft eligible player compared to Kreider's D+1 and D+2 seasons. Is it just his skating?

 

[TheTakedown]

Florida income tax plays a HUGE factor there.

Also the contract structure was David Clarkson-esque... All bonuses and very little salary. Not sure the Islanders can afford that kind of front loaded contract

 

[NYR Viper]

Would anyone be interested in Evander Kane as a UFA? Say 4 years @ $5.5m? We've discussed this before but having both Kreider and Kane on the left wing would be a lot for any team to handle. He would add some swagger and grit to the top-6 and he would cost no assets but $.

 

[Edge]

Would anyone be interested in Evander Kane as a UFA? Say 4 years @ $5.5m? We've discussed this before but having both Kreider and Kane on the left wing would be a lot for any team to handle. He would add some swagger and grit to the top-6 and he would cost no assets but $.

In NYC?

No, not really.

I could see that getting ugly in short order.

 

[Fvital92]

I'm not seeing the reason to pass on a player like Tkachuk. Can someone explain this to me? He outscored Kreider as a draft eligible player compared to Kreider's D+1 and D+2 seasons. Is it just his skating?

Mainly because I like Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Boqvist, Whalstrom, Dobson, Bouchard, Hughes more.
Also, I think Tkachuk will be more of a complementary player than a first liner stud.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

Would anyone be interested in Evander Kane as a UFA? Say 4 years @ $5.5m? We've discussed this before but having both Kreider and Kane on the left wing would be a lot for any team to handle. He would add some swagger and grit to the top-6 and he would cost no assets but $.

I'd love to add that type of player but not him.

He should stay in San Jose.

 

[NYR Viper]

In NYC?

No, not really.

I could see that getting ugly in short order.

That's possible. I am not sure how a place like NYC where he could walk down the street without getting mobbed would work for him.

 

[Mac n Gs]

Mainly because I like Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Boqvist, Whalstrom, Dobson, Bouchard, Hughes more.
Also, I think Tkachuk will be more of a complementary player than a first liner stud.

Disagree about Tkachuk, and I’ve made that clear in the draft thread. There’s been this weird stigma built around him this year, and it’s unwarranted. His skill as a playmaker gets completely overlooked just because he didn’t play in juniors and pot 100 points like his brother did. He would’ve DEMOLISHED the USDP this year considering he 25-29-54 in 61 games there last yeae on a worse team. His brother played with Auston Matthews on a much better WJC team too. Imagine if Brady played with Marner and Dvorak in London?

 

[JimmyG89]

Don't see Kane leaving. He's having a ton of success there. He also fits the age group of Couture, Pavelski, Burns, and Vlasic. He'd help them stay contenders for another 3-4 years with a new deal.

JVR coming here would be more likely. I'd prefer neither. Get Kovalchuk for a few seasons, at the same rate, and they can have the extra space when they are really ready to contend.

 

[silverfish]

Would anyone be interested in Evander Kane as a UFA? Say 4 years @ $5.5m? We've discussed this before but having both Kreider and Kane on the left wing would be a lot for any team to handle. He would add some swagger and grit to the top-6 and he would cost no assets but $.

At that contract, anyone who wouldn't take him is wrong.

 

[TheTakedown]

Would anyone be interested in Evander Kane as a UFA? Say 4 years @ $5.5m? We've discussed this before but having both Kreider and Kane on the left wing would be a lot for any team to handle. He would add some swagger and grit to the top-6 and he would cost no assets but $.

Yes plz

 

[Boris Zubov]

You and me both. I still cringe every time I hear the goal siren in DC from the '90 & '91 playoffs. First jersey with the name on the back I had was Ridley.

God that was horrible. Deep down I think I still have PTSD from Game 4 of the '90 Caps series.

 

[GregSirico]

Would anyone be interested in Evander Kane as a UFA? Say 4 years @ $5.5m? We've discussed this before but having both Kreider and Kane on the left wing would be a lot for any team to handle. He would add some swagger and grit to the top-6 and he would cost no assets but $.

5.5M / 4Y ... What GM says no?

 

[haveandare]

I'm not seeing the reason to pass on a player like Tkachuk. Can someone explain this to me? He outscored Kreider as a draft eligible player compared to Kreider's D+1 and D+2 seasons. Is it just his skating?

Depends on the pick imo. People are wary of the possibility of his name knocking him up a few slots and using our highest pick in forever on a guy who might only be in the conversation at that spot because of his last time.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Unless San Jose somehow lands Tavares, Kane is staying there

 

[Ghost of jas]

I'd love to add that type of player but not him.

He should stay in San Jose.

Kane is in a perfect spot. He’s a fool if he walks away from San Jose.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Would LOVE one of those trades. Manson is the guy

They both got embarrassed repeatedly last night... I’d be very careful with what we expect from them.

 

[Ghost of jas]

Would anyone be interested in Evander Kane as a UFA? Say 4 years @ $5.5m? We've discussed this before but having both Kreider and Kane on the left wing would be a lot for any team to handle. He would add some swagger and grit to the top-6 and he would cost no assets but $.

I don’t see Gorton interested in going near Kane. He just traded Miller with concerns over the impact on younger players. Not a chance they go after him.

 

[Edge]

I don’t see Gorton interested in going near Kane. He just traded Miller with concerns over the impact on younger players. Not a chance they go after him.

Kind of view it as moot point myself. I'd be shocked if Kane is on their short list.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Q&A with Kevin Hayes: 'We’ll be right back at it, cracking...

Reading Carp's 1 on 1 with Hayes and totally forgot Hayes is cousins with Matt and Brady Tkachuk. That would be pretty cool for Hayes if the Rangers end up with Brady.