Rick Nash vs Jeff Carter
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fredez said:
I agree. Nash is 1 year older and he's already much better than Carter. Will Nash get better, yes. He will improve his overall game which will be great. However, to think he will be a perennial 40+ goal scorer, I don't think that's realistic. He'll be a 30 goal guy, but I don't see him with 40 goals a year. And he really needs to get better linemates/use them more.
But Carter will also get better. His ceiling is still pretty high. To me, Carter is a more all-around player. Carter plays a very complete game to me, along with having good goalscoring skill. He's got size, speed, nice hands, plays good enough d. Once he gets a little bigger, that'll be an improvement. Again though ,the difference is Nash has proven himself in the NHl whereas Carter has not.
Nash still has holes in his game, but he will undoubtedly get better. The difference to me is that Nash can be a franchise player, whereas Carter, if everything goes well, can be a solid no.1 center, perhaps an allstar. That's the major difference to me. One can be a franchise guy, top 5 scorer in the league, whereas the other will be a really good player.
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I see Nash as a 40 goal per yer year scoring machine that will be at his best when his team needs him to score. Carter will be a heart and soul type of guy that will put up around 80 points a season.
TJF
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I actually like this comparison, while in junior both Nash and Carter didn't play for the greatest teams but put up very similiar numbers. Nash has proven he can score at the NHL level, Carter has proven he can score at the international level. The one thing that will keep Jeff Carter from scoring the way Nash has in his first 2 years in the league will be the fact that Carter is drafted by the Flyers who have a lot of depth at forward which will result in Carter not getting great ice time where as Nash was drafted by an expansion team and was automatically put on thier scoring line seeing great ice time with power play minutes.
I think it's close but I see Nash having the better future.
I think it's close but I see Nash having the better future.
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blah
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Hitchcock has been yapping about opening up the game, and Clarkie also wants more scoring.TJF said:
http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/sports/11380492.htm
If there's hockey again the Flyers will most likely be a very young team. At least on the top two lines they will be, so I think Carter will get plenty of scoring opportunities.
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blah said:
That's good news for the likes of Carter and Richards,the only thing that can stop them is Bettman and Goodenow.
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To the people who said that Carter is overrated, you dont think that maybe Nash is getting a tad more attention than he deserves? Sure he scored 41, but how many assists did he get? 16? And how about that other end of the ice? Nash is probably the most dangerous player in front of the net in the NHL. He's strong, has great anticipation and hands, but you cant call him a complete player by any stretch of the imagination.
I do not expect Carter would be the type of player that would ever be able to score 41 goals in today's NHL, but thats not to say that he wouldnt become the better player of the two.
I do not expect Carter would be the type of player that would ever be able to score 41 goals in today's NHL, but thats not to say that he wouldnt become the better player of the two.
So, you are saying that Carter and Richards will go from junior directly to the top two lines of the Flyers?blah said:
I am assuming that you are not expecting Philadelphia to be competitive next yer.
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I think Carter can go straight to the "2nd" line, which actually gets less minutes than Primeau's shutdown line most games. I don't know if Richards should spend a year in the AHL or not, because he'd most likely be relegated to 4th line duty in his first year or two with the Flyers.
bleedgreen
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nash i think will be a consistent 40 goal guy because of the nature of his goals. hes a bull who has no problem scoring all his goals 2 feet out of the net. he scores ugly goals with no hesitation - he has the ability to score the pretty one - but he buries the loose chance in front consistently. i dare say there may not be another player in the nhl right now who does that better than him at this moment - leclair has lost it. the other aspects of nash's game will come around - he is only 20, but he will always be outstanding at this one thing that can set him apart, and i want the unstoppable guy over the guy who does many things well but masters none.
MojoJojo said:
So, hypothetically, Doug MacLean calls Bob Clarke and says "Hey Bob, how about trading us Jeff Carter straight-up for Rick Nash?" and Bob replies "Oh, no thanks Doug, we believe that Jeff is going to be the better of the two in the long-run"
That's truly amazing because no one has any idea what their team will look like the next time they are playing.blah said:
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